EPTMidas necro refresher combined with magnetic field and gege
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Denmark14978 Posts
Midas necro refresher combined with magnetic field and gege | ||
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United Kingdom3341 Posts
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tehh4ck3r
Magrathea7084 Posts
honestly i wonder if you should just play him as a support but just build midas every game | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On March 10 2015 07:26 tehh4ck3r wrote: arc warden's stats are fucking trash though honestly i wonder if you should just play him as a support but just build midas every game That's pretty much how he's played in DotA 1. | ||
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eieio
United States14512 Posts
I think it's the global sound tbh :p | ||
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tehh4ck3r
Magrathea7084 Posts
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eieio
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Denmark14978 Posts
On March 10 2015 07:24 dismiss wrote: Regardless of what exactly is the most broken, it kind of goes a long way to illustrate my point about power creep and things being ridiculous even for dota style balancing. What about the semi-recent heroes that were released and weren't over-the-top or too strong? Not all new heroes have been over-the-top stupid broken. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On March 10 2015 07:32 eieio wrote: how is the build not midas into 5 rapiers wtf I mean, you get Necrobook and Travels on that hero cuz double Necro is cancer, but yeah after that you get Rapiers. | ||
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United Kingdom3341 Posts
In addition, over the last few years there where extended periods of time during which the majority of the playerbase, including pros, found the gameplay either stale, or lacking for other reasons. (Think pre Ti4 death balls or I think it was 6.72) | ||
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
On March 10 2015 07:33 Unleashing wrote: What about the semi-recent heroes that were released and weren't over-the-top or too strong? Not all new heroes have been over-the-top stupid broken. name one. | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
All new heroes have been pretty much broken on release, we just didn't play the version in WC3 where they were. | ||
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United Kingdom3341 Posts
On March 10 2015 07:37 dismiss wrote: Yes, clearly it's an fair comparison to make between a mod, for which you have to capability to play an older version, and a game that has 9 million unique players every month. I think at some point you should actually test your changes somewhat more thoroughly before they go live. In addition, over the last few years there where extended periods of time during which the majority of the playerbase, including pros, found the gameplay either stale, or lacking for other reasons. (Think pre Ti4 death balls or I think it was 6.76) | ||
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Denmark14978 Posts
LC, SWM, Timber Wether some of them might've still needed some small nerfs, none of them were bonkers on release honestly. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
SKC gets it tho, WW not that broken on release. | ||
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tehh4ck3r
Magrathea7084 Posts
On March 10 2015 07:40 Comeh wrote: All new heroes have been pretty much broken on release, we just didn't play the version in WC3 where they were. winter wyvern isn't particularly broken and she's almost exclusively only been buffed since being created | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On March 10 2015 07:42 Shaella wrote: those aren't new. SKC gets it tho, WW not that broken on release. comparitively. Heroes stupid strong though. | ||
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Denmark14978 Posts
Edit: forgot oracle existed 6.73 - Ember, Timber, SWM, LC 6.75 - WW, Arc warden 6.77 - ES and Oracle Out of these the only ones i would say were(and might still be) far too strong on release were ember, warden, ES and oracle rest were pretty alright and it's not like ember was Warden tier. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On March 10 2015 07:37 dismiss wrote: (Think pre Ti4 death balls or I think it was 6.72) lol what is this revisionist history about TI4 "Death balls" were not a problem leading up to TI4. Like, leading up to TI4, EG and DK were spearheading relatively slow, farm-oriented playstyles with comparatively farm-focused mid, safe lane, and support play. VG, which was the team that primarily launched the style into prominence was a total mess until a relatively close to the event. Even at The Summit, their play wasn't totally refined enough for a lot of teams to consider the playstyle itself that scary. | ||
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