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On March 10 2015 03:47 BluemoonSC wrote: what if in dota you could have the same champion on radiant and dire? where's your god now, sniper pickers? The game would be super fucking boring. Just think of AM vs AM. Or Tinker vs Tinker. Weep, its a natural response.
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void vs void would be hilarious because chronosphere
v o i d b o y s
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It would make the Viper vs Viper mid dream possible
I'm not sure I get the logic behind blind picking to counter a side advantage.
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On March 10 2015 03:50 SKC wrote: It would make the Viper vs Viper mid dream possible
I'm not sure I get the logic behind blind picking to counter a side advantage. shhhhhhhh
dont talk now
just dream
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SoCal8933 Posts
On March 10 2015 03:49 eieio wrote: void vs void would be hilarious because chronosphere
v o i d b o y s
both voids running around both chronospheres at a million movespeed. do they 1v1? or do they have a gentleman's agreement to slay 1 support each then 4v4 XD
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two chens or two chens + two rubicks and you get that diretide 50k health jungle creep
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On March 10 2015 03:59 trifecta wrote: two chens or two chens + two rubicks and you get that diretide 50k health jungle creep Throw in 2 clinkz and its a battle to get the dominated creep first.
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On March 10 2015 04:02 Comeh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2015 03:59 trifecta wrote: two chens or two chens + two rubicks and you get that diretide 50k health jungle creep Throw in 2 clinkz and its a battle to get the dominated creep first.
naix infest role play too
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Two Earth Shakers, team fights are a mess and then everyone explodes. Or two Trees, so no one can move ever. Or two enigmas, where both teams never fight because of fear of the black hole into counter black hole.
This is a dark road.
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LETS ALSO MAKE A NEW STAT WHERE ALL ABILITIES SCALE
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On March 10 2015 04:08 Shaella wrote: LETS ALSO MAKE A NEW STAT WHERE ALL ABILITIES SCALE I feel like the is the fundamental breaking point of LoL.
Actually fuck it riot has no idea what they are doing nevermind.
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United States47024 Posts
On March 10 2015 03:50 SKC wrote: It would make the Viper vs Viper mid dream possible
I'm not sure I get the logic behind blind picking to counter a side advantage. Bo5 series means odd number of games, so if you consider FP to be an advantage/disadvantage, each side gets FP twice and second pick twice.
Bear in mind that this originated before Riot acknowledged that their "symmetrical" map still had side-specific terrain advantages, and also that Riot's draft mode doesn't allow you to separate blue side (effectively Radiant) from first pick. Blue side is hardcoded to always be first pick in draft mode (which arguably contributes to the side advantage).
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god i love riot's terrible code. Its so bad.
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On March 10 2015 04:09 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2015 03:50 SKC wrote: It would make the Viper vs Viper mid dream possible
I'm not sure I get the logic behind blind picking to counter a side advantage. Bo5 series means odd number of games, so if you consider FP to be an advantage/disadvantage, each side gets FP twice and second pick twice. Bear in mind that this originated before Riot acknowledged that their "symmetrical" map still had side-specific terrain advantages, and also that Riot's draft mode doesn't allow you to separate blue side (effectively Radiant) from first pick. Blue side is hardcoded to always be first pick in draft mode (which arguably contributes to the side advantage). holy FUCK that's ridiculous
whats the terrain advantage? Is that merely dragon advantage, or is there more to it then that?
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On March 10 2015 04:13 Comeh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2015 04:09 TheYango wrote:On March 10 2015 03:50 SKC wrote: It would make the Viper vs Viper mid dream possible
I'm not sure I get the logic behind blind picking to counter a side advantage. Bo5 series means odd number of games, so if you consider FP to be an advantage/disadvantage, each side gets FP twice and second pick twice. Bear in mind that this originated before Riot acknowledged that their "symmetrical" map still had side-specific terrain advantages, and also that Riot's draft mode doesn't allow you to separate blue side (effectively Radiant) from first pick. Blue side is hardcoded to always be first pick in draft mode (which arguably contributes to the side advantage). holy FUCK that's ridiculous whats the terrain advantage? Is that merely dragon advantage, or is there more to it then that? I think they have better access to fight over Baron too. They get to come straight in from "high ground" while red has to come in from the river or some side path.
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On March 10 2015 04:10 Shaella wrote: god i love riot's terrible code. Its so bad. how did you see their code?
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there's a definite view that blue is easier for last hitting and skillshots and stuff (like how some people last hit easier on radiant) but I have no idea how accurate that is especially at a pro level
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United States47024 Posts
The map is mirrored across mid lane, which means that the actual jungle layout and approach to Baron/Dragon are not symmetrical for each side. In theory this is supposed to "cancel out" because the team that has an easier time approaching Dragon has an easier time approaching Baron and vice versa, but because these objectives actually have differing value over the course of the game, this isn't actually the case.
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On March 10 2015 04:16 CorsairHero wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2015 04:10 Shaella wrote: god i love riot's terrible code. Its so bad. how did you see their code? i know a lot of former riot peeps
i didn't personally see it but i've heard the horror stories
basically the code base of the game is fucking mom's spaghetti, thats why adding functionality is such a disaster.
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well and depneding on ur jungle rotation it makes ganking the lanes different considering it's not like Dota where jungling always leaves u near ur mid and safe lanes, since both teams have their carry + support in bot lane 100% of games of LoL.
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