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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
March 06 2015 15:16 GMT
#13961
are u actually stupid or just trolling
of course the admins let it through they cant afford not having eg for a us lan
acting like there is any other reason other than EG having the leverage is just dumb

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Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 06 2015 15:18 GMT
#13962
On March 07 2015 00:16 teddyoojo wrote:
are u actually stupid or just trolling
of course the admins let it through they cant afford not having eg for a us lan
acting like there is any other reason other than EG having the leverage is just dumb

in which case why r eg in qualifiers not invited rofl
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
March 06 2015 15:18 GMT
#13963
cuz its joindota LEAGUE with lan finals
do you want eg to be invited to starladder lan already
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 06 2015 15:19 GMT
#13964
I actually quite enjoy EG having to play qualifier games cuz I get to watch them
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 06 2015 15:21 GMT
#13965
basically mlg got bullied by EG, we should condemn EG for it tbh, its an asshole move

should EG have to play the quals, probably not, but letting them bully organizers is fucking nasty. Its not fair to other teams, you can't allow them to run roughshod over the scene because they're currently highly desirable, 2 years ago no one gave a shit if EG showed up or not.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
harodihg
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Japan1344 Posts
March 06 2015 15:28 GMT
#13966
Yeah this shits deep get your SCUBA NIGGA
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
March 06 2015 15:33 GMT
#13967
If EG hate the fact that they have to qualify for events online so much so that they will flame the other teams and bully admins, just don't play. There is going to be collateral damage regardless of the stance they take, make a point about online quals being bad for the A list teams and refuse to participate until tournaments change their structure or continually flame orgs / teams etc in public until admins change the structure and have more invites. Both strategies have the same goal but one makes you look like a super douche and the other is reasonable.

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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
March 06 2015 15:35 GMT
#13968
I think the problem with that comparison is the money that is to be made from still playing in the qualifiers for the events.
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 06 2015 15:36 GMT
#13969
idk man all i know is this shit came off as pure douchebaggery from EG to me. They're running hot right now and they feel like they can do anything they want. I hope when they inevitably crash the scene fucking spits on them and goes 'sucks to be down here with the peasants doesn't it'
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
March 06 2015 15:42 GMT
#13970
The whole "I'm too good for qualifiers" atitude is already douchy. It's just dumb. It's not like they have too many games to play, they are not playing that often. It's like a team that is already qualified in any sport complaining they have to keep playing "useless" games. Shut up and do your job.

When they try to reason it out they make nonsensical arguments like "it would be good for the scene if they don't play", because there is just no way to justify what they want. People can argue about some qualifiers being too long or something, but the idea that a team should not have to play just because they are going to win anyway is just ridiculous.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 06 2015 15:43 GMT
#13971
they were definitely uncalled for assholes but I get how it happens in a game like that vs a joke team where the rules u sign up for say "2x USE server" and then ur told "lol admin sez play BR".
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
March 06 2015 15:43 GMT
#13972
On March 07 2015 00:35 Unleashing wrote:
I think the problem with that comparison is the money that is to be made from still playing in the qualifiers for the events.

EG is one of the few teams that have the luxury to be selective in which tournaments they play in. If they started turning down smaller tournaments (let's be honest 100k tournaments are 'small' now to them) because they fundamentally disagreed with the format and wanted it to change, they would likely be more successful in getting the changes made. I don't think playing in events and shitting on everyone from the admins to the other teams will garner the same level of success.
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
March 06 2015 15:44 GMT
#13973
On March 07 2015 00:18 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2015 00:16 teddyoojo wrote:
are u actually stupid or just trolling
of course the admins let it through they cant afford not having eg for a us lan
acting like there is any other reason other than EG having the leverage is just dumb

in which case why r eg in qualifiers not invited rofl

On March 07 2015 00:19 Sn0_Man wrote:
I actually quite enjoy EG having to play qualifier games cuz I get to watch them

answered your own question

eg big bully but dota pro scene doesnt go very deep in terms of skilled teams / region, with america being like the shallowest, sooooo
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-06 15:46:59
March 06 2015 15:45 GMT
#13974
On March 07 2015 00:43 Sn0_Man wrote:
they were definitely uncalled for assholes but I get how it happens in a game like that vs a joke team where the rules u sign up for say "2x USE server" and then ur told "lol admin sez play BR".

That skips the part where the teams agreed with switching servers, or EG at least didnt complain about it until just before the match.

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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-06 15:48:06
March 06 2015 15:47 GMT
#13975
On March 07 2015 00:43 Sn0_Man wrote:
they were definitely uncalled for assholes but I get how it happens in a game like that vs a joke team where the rules u sign up for say "2x USE server" and then ur told "lol admin sez play BR".

yeah i agree, it's like the admins felt bad for SA after writing rules and tried to enforce 1use/1br and most na teams were like "ok fine" but EG big bully won't take that shit. i think the best move for JD woulda just been to enforce USE for all games, because let's be honest, SA viewership and team skill isn't significant enough anyway

SKC, who is in that skype chat? was that EG's?
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
March 06 2015 15:47 GMT
#13976
On March 07 2015 00:43 Sn0_Man wrote:
they were definitely uncalled for assholes but I get how it happens in a game like that vs a joke team where the rules u sign up for say "2x USE server" and then ur told "lol admin sez play BR".

I thought in the reddit thread the rules were supposed to be US-BR-US(if needed), is that not true?

The whole "I'm too good for qualifiers" atitude is already douchy. It's just dumb.


the position itself isn't douchy, there are some really interesting and valid arguments about why S-class teams shouldn't be in qualifiers. it's just PPD is doing his best to be douchy about it lols. I think one of the strongest arguments is that having a team like EG in the quals is that it essentially removes a spot from an up and coming team to break into the scene. I understand why tournaments don't want 'XYZ team' playing 15 streamed matches when they could have EG but for the overall growth and development of dota, I can see the merits.
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-06 15:50:39
March 06 2015 15:48 GMT
#13977
On March 07 2015 00:47 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2015 00:43 Sn0_Man wrote:
they were definitely uncalled for assholes but I get how it happens in a game like that vs a joke team where the rules u sign up for say "2x USE server" and then ur told "lol admin sez play BR".

I thought in the reddit thread the rules were supposed to be US-BR-US(if needed), is that not true?

Show nested quote +
The whole "I'm too good for qualifiers" atitude is already douchy. It's just dumb.


the position itself isn't douchy, there are some really interesting and valid arguments about why S-class teams shouldn't be in qualifiers. it's just PPD is doing his best to be douchy about it lols. I think one of the strongest arguments is that having a team like EG in the quals is that it essentially removes a spot from an up and coming team to break into the scene. I understand why tournaments don't want 'XYZ team' playing 15 streamed matches when they could have EG but for the overall growth and development of dota, I can see the merits.

It removes no spots. It doesn't create another slot in the tournament. If you have two slots, with qualifers, EG and one more team qualify. If you have no qualifiers, EG plays and one more team qualifies.

Inviting teams is good for the tournament in the sense that it guarantees the good teams will not be eliminated by a fluke if you do short, double elim qualifiers. There is no reasonable argument why it would make the main tournament better in the case the favorite qualifies anyway.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 06 2015 15:49 GMT
#13978
On March 07 2015 00:45 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2015 00:43 Sn0_Man wrote:
they were definitely uncalled for assholes but I get how it happens in a game like that vs a joke team where the rules u sign up for say "2x USE server" and then ur told "lol admin sez play BR".

That skips the part where the teams agreed with switching servers, or EG at least didnt complain about it until just before the match.

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i see so much eg in that skype convo... not
exactly as i said, they were told "lol admin sez play BR"
also keep in mind that pain ping clearly better to USE than EG ping to BR.
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
March 06 2015 15:49 GMT
#13979
On March 07 2015 00:43 Sn0_Man wrote:
they were definitely uncalled for assholes but I get how it happens in a game like that vs a joke team where the rules u sign up for say "2x USE server" and then ur told "lol admin sez play BR".

except the rules they signed up for said 1xUSE 1xBR

don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 06 2015 15:51 GMT
#13980
On March 07 2015 00:47 crms wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2015 00:43 Sn0_Man wrote:
they were definitely uncalled for assholes but I get how it happens in a game like that vs a joke team where the rules u sign up for say "2x USE server" and then ur told "lol admin sez play BR".

I thought in the reddit thread the rules were supposed to be US-BR-US(if needed), is that not true?

2-game series like dotopit so no
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