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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 04 2015 21:36 GMT
#13541
OFC sc2 is fun. It's also literally the exact EA-ification (or in this case Activision-ification) of SC1.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 04 2015 21:37 GMT
#13542
On March 05 2015 06:36 Dattish wrote:
He wrote himself into World of Warcraft and is now living out his fantasy of being an orc with eyebrows.

Living the dream, good reason to hate a man.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-04 21:37:44
March 04 2015 21:37 GMT
#13543
World of orcraft is what's wrong with metzen among many things
Like his self-insert gary stu character
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-04 21:39:09
March 04 2015 21:37 GMT
#13544
I mean, SC2 blows if your standard is BW/D2/War3.

Basically 1998-2004 was the Blizzard golden age where they successively released a new great title every year (SC, BW, D2, LOD, War3, TFT, WoW).
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Mecha King Ghidorah
Profile Joined April 2014
United States595 Posts
March 04 2015 21:37 GMT
#13545
He made the Starcraft 2 story which is mindblowingly bad.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 04 2015 21:39 GMT
#13546
On March 05 2015 06:37 Mecha King Ghidorah wrote:
He made the Starcraft 2 story which is mindblowingly bad.

Got bad news for you, all video games stories are pretty terrible. Including SC1 and BW. We just had really low standards back then.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
March 04 2015 21:40 GMT
#13547
On March 05 2015 06:39 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 06:37 Mecha King Ghidorah wrote:
He made the Starcraft 2 story which is mindblowingly bad.

Got bad news for you, all video games stories are pretty terrible. Including SC1 and BW. We just had really low standards back then.

Got bad news for both of you, the sc2 story is bad but not awful, but the BW story line was actually really good.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-04 21:43:37
March 04 2015 21:42 GMT
#13548
There's still some good writing in video games. Inquisition was good, divinity original sin was good. Of course bioware made great stories for years...
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
March 04 2015 21:44 GMT
#13549
On March 05 2015 06:39 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 06:37 Mecha King Ghidorah wrote:
He made the Starcraft 2 story which is mindblowingly bad.

Got bad news for you, all video games stories are pretty terrible. Including SC1 and BW. We just had really low standards back then.

So you only play games with bad stories apparently?
Plenty of good stories in vidya.
Far more bad stories though, for sure.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-04 21:45:30
March 04 2015 21:44 GMT
#13550
Metzen was also the lead designer on the original Starcraft and was hugely responsible for creating the lore and stories of the original Starcraft, Warcraft, and Diablo universes (he's basically done art/story design in all 3 franchises going back to the original Warcraft, and was creative director on War3).

In my mind I'll give him more credit for that than the fact that the recent entries in the respective series' suck takes away.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-04 21:45:54
March 04 2015 21:44 GMT
#13551
I don't know, its pretty standard sci-fi tropes. Lets take this super feral race and cross it with this super high tech race and see what we get. Also a lot of running away and being chased. I give it a workman like, but nothing I had not seen before.

On March 05 2015 06:44 Unleashing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 06:39 Plansix wrote:
On March 05 2015 06:37 Mecha King Ghidorah wrote:
He made the Starcraft 2 story which is mindblowingly bad.

Got bad news for you, all video games stories are pretty terrible. Including SC1 and BW. We just had really low standards back then.

So you only play games with bad stories apparently?
Plenty of good stories in vidya.
Far more bad stories though, for sure.


I mean, what are you standards? Are we going to compare them to movies or novels? Because if we do, they are horrible with a few exceptions.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
March 04 2015 21:45 GMT
#13552
On March 05 2015 06:37 TheYango wrote:
I mean, SC2 blows if your standard is BW/D2/War3.

You'd think SC2 would be good given the success of BW, but NOPE
© Current year.
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
March 04 2015 21:48 GMT
#13553
I only like video games where characters have a dark mysterious past
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
March 04 2015 21:49 GMT
#13554
have we reached that time of the month where we reflect on how shitty dota 2 would be if Blizzard retained rights and published the game as their own?

thinking of that literally gives me nightmares.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 04 2015 21:50 GMT
#13555
I only like gritty reboots of series that don't need gritty reboots. Waiting for the Mega Man gritty reboot where he is all gray and brown.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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12ozSkilletDota
Profile Joined June 2014
United States76 Posts
March 04 2015 21:50 GMT
#13556
What is going on with servers right now?

I cant even play vs bots on local server.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-04 21:56:53
March 04 2015 21:55 GMT
#13557
On March 05 2015 06:44 Plansix wrote:
I mean, what are you standards? Are we going to compare them to movies or novels? Because if we do, they are horrible with a few exceptions.

What's wrong with Planescape Torment? Original Deus Ex? VTMB? Fallout 2?

Also books are all about the story, they are 100% about the story.
Movies take a step down and also have the visuals and audio.
Games take another step down and also has gameplay.

For each additional thing you have to include, the story will end up suffering. But that doesn't mean that all video games have terrible stories. Some stories might end up being simplified or not carry the same depths the medium of for example books are capable of having but that doesn't make them bad or terrible.

I compare game stories to other games and look at how entertaining/interesting/immersive they are.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
March 04 2015 21:58 GMT
#13558
On March 05 2015 06:50 12ozSkilletDota wrote:
What is going on with servers right now?

I cant even play vs bots on local server.

something about how valve messed up the new update so the game coordinator thinks everyones running an older version or something
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-04 22:01:56
March 04 2015 22:01 GMT
#13559
Well DotA 2 finally dead for good.

I think me losing on Troll might have been the final straw.
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
March 04 2015 22:01 GMT
#13560
On March 05 2015 06:39 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 06:37 Mecha King Ghidorah wrote:
He made the Starcraft 2 story which is mindblowingly bad.

Got bad news for you, all video games stories are pretty terrible. Including SC1 and BW. We just had really low standards back then.


By that logic 99% of book and film stories are pretty terrible. Literature and film just make for it in sheer volume/age of medium.
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