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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-04 16:11:24
March 04 2015 16:10 GMT
#13341
On March 05 2015 01:09 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 01:08 Comeh wrote:
On March 05 2015 01:05 Shaella wrote:
On March 05 2015 01:02 Comeh wrote:
On March 05 2015 01:00 Shaella wrote:
On March 05 2015 00:58 Comeh wrote:
On March 05 2015 00:56 Shaella wrote:
i hate this patch so much.

I would like this patch a lot more if jugg had a 1.6 BAT and troll had a longer ulti CD and had a longer CD on his bash, and some kind of slark nerf. That being said I still like this patch more than the last 2-4

its a fun patch to watch for me, i just hate playing it cause my heros are all out of meta

except for PL, but he gets shit on by axe/troll really hard.

PL should do well against troll IMO.

nah new PL gets dumpstered by troll, same as old, he just hits W and suddenly you're worthless and dead. You're forced into MKB which you can't afford cause the hero needs to tank up.

like you can usually deal with heros having evasion from bfly without mkb cause you have a million attacks tbh, but 60% miss chance is just crushing

You can purge the miss chance with Doppleganger

wait shit you can? Well fuck me sideways.

You can purge like, 90% of debuffs with that spell, Imagine it as a slark dark pact that can actually dodge projectiles. TBH the only reason that hero is decent at all is because of it.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 04 2015 16:12 GMT
#13342
It doesn't remove stuns like Dark Pact does, it's just a normal Dispel.
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Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
March 04 2015 16:13 GMT
#13343
Dont forget oov into skadi.
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-04 16:15:35
March 04 2015 16:14 GMT
#13344
On March 05 2015 01:12 TheYango wrote:
It doesn't remove stuns like Dark Pact does, it's just a normal Dispel.

Yeah, I was more referring how to use it in fights moreso. I can't think of a situation where you could even use that spell while stunned though.

On March 05 2015 01:13 Slomo wrote:
Dont forget oov into skadi.


I also have trouble figuring out how to build this hero. My working theory is somehting like treads aquila bottle diffusal skadi, but I dunno.

I've also been thinking about getting phase, as sometimes my illusions block my main hero from hitting when I REALLY NEED TO while chasing. Seems stupid though. Whatever shoudl go to PL strat thread.
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44284 Posts
March 04 2015 16:14 GMT
#13345
I seriously hate the new troll. (Also the new jugg cause it's easy to play)

Too strong too strong.
this is a quote
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
March 04 2015 16:16 GMT
#13346
every hero is super buffed nowadays so much burst from magical/physical damage in the first 2 seconds of every team fight. I am just glad that dota doesn't turn into some moba that everyone is buying arcane+dagon.

Or we are actually heading that direction...
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
March 04 2015 16:18 GMT
#13347
On March 05 2015 01:16 BurningSera wrote:
every hero is super buffed nowadays so much burst from magical/physical damage in the first 2 seconds of every team fight. I am just glad that dota doesn't turn into some moba that everyone is buying arcane+dagon.

Or we are actually heading that direction...

What, was superior moba buying dagon equivalent every game?
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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-04 16:20:01
March 04 2015 16:19 GMT
#13348
On March 05 2015 01:18 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 01:16 BurningSera wrote:
every hero is super buffed nowadays so much burst from magical/physical damage in the first 2 seconds of every team fight. I am just glad that dota doesn't turn into some moba that everyone is buying arcane+dagon.

Or we are actually heading that direction...

What, was superior moba buying dagon equivalent every game?


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HoN was like that when i left rofl
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 04 2015 16:20 GMT
#13349
On March 05 2015 01:16 BurningSera wrote:
every hero is super buffed nowadays so much burst from magical/physical damage in the first 2 seconds of every team fight. I am just glad that dota doesn't turn into some moba that everyone is buying arcane+dagon.

Or we are actually heading that direction...

its not a dagon. its called euls, all day, every day.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44284 Posts
March 04 2015 16:20 GMT
#13350
6.80 will be the best version ever(to watch the pro-games at least)



everything is overpowered including Jimmy "You know" Ho
this is a quote
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
March 04 2015 16:22 GMT
#13351
I am very surprised that pro teams don't spam some 5 men dagger timing like what happened back then. Get on with the burst damage era please. Or secret strat for TI5
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
dfs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Russian Federation4050 Posts
March 04 2015 16:26 GMT
#13352
On March 05 2015 01:14 goody153 wrote:
I seriously hate the new troll. (Also the new jugg cause it's easy to play)

Too strong too strong.

Jugg/Troll were my freewin tokens before they became popular. Now I'm just sad.
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44284 Posts
March 04 2015 16:28 GMT
#13353
Wasn't there like a time in pro-games where everybody picked blow up people heroes ? like the invoker + centaur

lion and lina is popular nowadays so we maybe on the burst damage era :D
this is a quote
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44284 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-04 16:32:35
March 04 2015 16:28 GMT
#13354
On March 05 2015 01:26 dfs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 01:14 goody153 wrote:
I seriously hate the new troll. (Also the new jugg cause it's easy to play)

Too strong too strong.

Jugg/Troll were my freewin tokens before they became popular. Now I'm just sad.

i never played troll on dota 2

Juggernaut however. Actually my other free win hero was DP before motherfucking MVP picked it and everybody suddenly picked it close to TI4. I don't feel like ever using the hero anymore
this is a quote
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 04 2015 16:36 GMT
#13355
On March 05 2015 01:28 goody153 wrote:
Wasn't there like a time in pro-games where everybody picked blow up people heroes ? like the invoker + centaur

lion and lina is popular nowadays so we maybe on the burst damage era :D

Its the great cycle. Then people will pick heroes that can take the burst damage or avoid it. Then people will pick heroes that can deal with that and the cycle will continue.

All the while CM will still be dumb as rocks level 1 and be a sad panda late game.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44284 Posts
March 04 2015 16:43 GMT
#13356
I wish CM had a rework.

And something similar to Lina so that we can compare them and shit.
this is a quote
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
March 04 2015 16:44 GMT
#13357
i am going to play CM tonight so.

i apparently havent played her for 8 months.....
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 04 2015 16:46 GMT
#13358
Her two main spells are fine, but that passive is garbage. Even her ult can be useful without a ton of items with good positioning. Maybe she needs a new passive or some third spell that scales into the late game.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 04 2015 16:49 GMT
#13359
? her passive is her best ability
shame her base model is game-losingly bad in almost every way.
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
March 04 2015 16:50 GMT
#13360
easiest +24 of my life
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Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
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