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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
February 26 2015 21:11 GMT
#12161
these were some gud threads but dam the more flamey ones got deleted by nazi mods

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/2x7xmk/riot_the_cracks_are_showing/
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/2x7h8o/patch_54_killing_everyone/

people really fed up with the annual jungle changes, same stuff riot gam3s promoting 'strategic diversity' counter play etc other pr buzzwords when in reality they just goof every year and end up resulting in 3 good ones and 20 shit ones
a few really painful nerfs on some dudes, especially one that they made an arcana equivalent skin for so people buttmad they wasted 30 dollars on unplayable dude
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
February 26 2015 21:13 GMT
#12162
Riot talking about diversity is actually hilarious considering that some of their statements are basically "You guys began playing the game in a way we don't want you to, heres a nerf or change to stop the diversity, but we're changing it because of toxic gameplay!!!"
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
February 26 2015 21:14 GMT
#12163
Dota needs a Pandamonium, that hero was the shit
Favorite players: Gh and Zai
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
February 26 2015 21:16 GMT
#12164
On February 27 2015 06:11 FinestHour wrote:
these were some gud threads but dam the more flamey ones got deleted by nazi mods

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/2x7xmk/riot_the_cracks_are_showing/
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/2x7h8o/patch_54_killing_everyone/

people really fed up with the annual jungle changes, same stuff riot gam3s promoting 'strategic diversity' counter play etc other pr buzzwords when in reality they just goof every year and end up resulting in 3 good ones and 20 shit ones
a few really painful nerfs on some dudes, especially one that they made an arcana equivalent skin for so people buttmad they wasted 30 dollars on unplayable dude

...Why are people just noticing these things now.

Kupo come save us please
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
February 26 2015 21:17 GMT
#12165
is all ok tho they have new dj skrillex arcana that makes grill hero double f boobs giant butt and skintight outfit
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 26 2015 21:19 GMT
#12166
"Jungle Diversity": in before they start claiming it was a SJW Illuminati conspiracy that ruined the game by promoting Jungle Diversity. Junglers needed a safe zone.
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
February 26 2015 21:19 GMT
#12167
Only riot approved meta is allowed in riot approved tournaments
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
dismiss
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
February 26 2015 21:20 GMT
#12168
People in LoL for some reason just become really attached to 1 hero, I guess that might be a sign of good game design, but w/e. So basically you have a whole forum worth of xXx Mecha King Godlord xXx or whatever the guy on LD who only picks viper is called. Can't expect too much out of that.
Failure to improve posting standards will result in a lengthy ban. I <crms_> !dumb <GeoffAnderson> crmsdota <crms_> damnit
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
February 26 2015 21:23 GMT
#12169
I wouldn't call that good game design, i'd call it a byproduct of people having to set up rune pages, masteries and actually purchasing(either with real money or ingame points) for the champions they want to play. For a lot of people that's gonna promote them focusnig on one champion or one type of champions.
And once you're in a comfort zone as a player that can be hard to break out of.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
February 26 2015 21:24 GMT
#12170
On February 27 2015 06:20 dismiss wrote:
People in LoL for some reason just become really attached to 1 hero, I guess that might be a sign of good game design, but w/e. So basically you have a whole forum worth of xXx Mecha King Godlord xXx or whatever the guy on LD who only picks viper is called. Can't expect too much out of that.


from what i understand it has a lot to do with how riot balances the game, creating flavor of the month heroes.

i do appreciate that while dota has FOTM heroes, that in pubs most heroes are viable for play.
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
February 26 2015 21:25 GMT
#12171
On February 27 2015 06:17 FinestHour wrote:
dj skrillex

damn FH, respect to other ppl who listen to djSkrill3x the Mozart of our time
Favorite players: Gh and Zai
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
February 26 2015 21:26 GMT
#12172
On February 27 2015 06:25 Rocket-Bear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2015 06:17 FinestHour wrote:
dj skrillex

damn FH, respect to other ppl who listen to djSkrill3x the Mozart of our time

I'm literally listening to skrillex right now - it happens to be on my rtz level bad music playlist.
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-26 21:52:24
February 26 2015 21:35 GMT
#12173
Lets consider a metric on diversity

The DAC group stages had a higher percentage of the hero pool picked than the ENTIRETY OF ALL RIOT-APPROVED TOURNAMENTS DURING HALF THE 2014 SEASON ACROSS 9 MAJOR BALANCE PATCHES AND 7 REGIONS

PS: talking about riot-approval is actually banned on liquidsuperiormoba too
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
February 26 2015 21:40 GMT
#12174
On February 27 2015 06:35 Kupon3ss wrote:
Lets consider a metric on diversity

The DAC group stages had a higher percentage of the hero pool picked than the ENTIRETY OF ALL RIOT-APPROVED TOURNAMENTS DURING THE 2013-2014 SEASON ACROSS 17 MAJOR BALANCE PATCHES

PS: talking about riot-approval is actually banned on liquidsuperiormoba too


this, exactly. i didn't know it was quite that severe though, 17 balance patches lol.

i also didnt realize you guys were nazi mods over there wtf is up with riot approval?
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
February 26 2015 21:41 GMT
#12175
how do you not talk about riot approval when the entire game is riot approved
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Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
February 26 2015 21:41 GMT
#12176
Riot also refuses to buff certain champions/heroes that are basically worthless in League of Gapclosers, i.e. Varus/Ashe (semi-long range carries without any mobility what so freaking ever), Udyr (multiple form champion that does basically nothing because everyone has some sort of dash/jump to kite him while he doesn't.
Steam: rook492
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-26 21:44:08
February 26 2015 21:42 GMT
#12177
On February 27 2015 06:23 Unleashing wrote:
I wouldn't call that good game design, i'd call it a byproduct of people having to set up rune pages, masteries and actually purchasing(either with real money or ingame points) for the champions they want to play. For a lot of people that's gonna promote them focusnig on one champion or one type of champions.
And once you're in a comfort zone as a player that can be hard to break out of.

Rune pages are so generic though. Every role pretty much has similar pages with a few exceptions for truly weird heroes. You can get by on so few. Though I did play a lot since beta....so I had a lot of IP.

I really think its that people just get really attached to a single hero because all of them match up well in their roles. Unlike in Dota where if you play silencer against storm mid, storm is going to have a bad day. People just don't have to switch up heroes as much in LoL.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
February 26 2015 21:43 GMT
#12178
Talking about Riot aproval is simply not Riot aproved.
Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
February 26 2015 21:45 GMT
#12179
I was still playing LoL in early S4, when you could only play 3 heroes in the top/offlane, those were good times, dumpstering kids that didn't follow the Riot approved meta of playing beefy-frontliners.
Steam: rook492
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
February 26 2015 21:45 GMT
#12180
On February 27 2015 06:41 Crusnik wrote:
Riot also refuses to buff certain champions/heroes that are basically worthless in League of Gapclosers, i.e. Varus/Ashe (semi-long range carries without any mobility what so freaking ever), Udyr (multiple form champion that does basically nothing because everyone has some sort of dash/jump to kite him while he doesn't.


ashe is the only hero i purchased back when i was looking for something to play other than sc2. im glad i dont plan on coming back bc id be pissed about wasting that money
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