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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
February 26 2015 16:38 GMT
#12121
On February 27 2015 01:31 TheEmulator wrote:
My issue is that no one was willing to put in the time that I put in when I was learning Guitar and it really depressed me. Kind of made me feel like I wasn't making it interesting enough when in reality I was just kind of a freak that played 8-10 hours a day and I probably shouldn't have expected that of students. idk I kind of hoped to inspire someone the same way my instructor inspired me.

Students would be able to play something by the end of a lesson, come back next week and actually be worse...


yeah that's teaching in a nutshell. you'd expect every student to be as into it as you and that's simply not the case.

but I have fun with it, at least I can be creative in my profession even with every politician thinking they know how to teach better than a teacher.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-26 16:46:24
February 26 2015 16:45 GMT
#12122
On February 27 2015 01:31 TheEmulator wrote:
My issue is that no one was willing to put in the time that I put in when I was learning Guitar and it really depressed me. Kind of made me feel like I wasn't making it interesting enough when in reality I was just kind of a freak that played 8-10 hours a day and I probably shouldn't have expected that of students. idk I kind of hoped to inspire someone the same way my instructor inspired me.

Students would be able to play something by the end of a lesson, come back next week and actually be worse...

Thats mostly the student not putting in the time between lessons, rather than teaching. The same frustration exists in bands if there is a member that neglects their practice. That shouldn't stop you from teaching, because you will find a student that improves between classes and that is literally one of the greatest things ever. Also, understanding child development is very helpful when teaching younger people, since its reminds you they do not possess all the same "learning skills" you do.

I have always wanted to make a lesson plan for teaching dota from the ground up. It would be a good mental exercise on what it takes to learn and improve at the game.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44284 Posts
February 26 2015 16:52 GMT
#12123
On February 27 2015 01:31 TheEmulator wrote:
My issue is that no one was willing to put in the time that I put in when I was learning Guitar and it really depressed me. Kind of made me feel like I wasn't making it interesting enough when in reality I was just kind of a freak that played 8-10 hours a day and I probably shouldn't have expected that of students. idk I kind of hoped to inspire someone the same way my instructor inspired me.

Students would be able to play something by the end of a lesson, come back next week and actually be worse...

They are probably just not interested in trying to learn guitar Emu.

My friend(one of those who tried to teach me lol) managed to learn a guitar without actually having his own guitar but since he was really motivated to learn everytime he had a chance to borrow one he would go 100% focus on it.

on my case as well. I have 4 people trying to teach yet i haven't learned anything outside (stand by me) cause i wasn't really interested at it.
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Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
February 26 2015 16:55 GMT
#12124
On February 27 2015 01:31 TheEmulator wrote:
My issue is that no one was willing to put in the time that I put in when I was learning Guitar and it really depressed me. Kind of made me feel like I wasn't making it interesting enough when in reality I was just kind of a freak that played 8-10 hours a day and I probably shouldn't have expected that of students. idk I kind of hoped to inspire someone the same way my instructor inspired me.

Students would be able to play something by the end of a lesson, come back next week and actually be worse...

Depending on the age it might be their parents forcing them to learn an instrument when they have 0 personal interest for it.
Favorite players: Gh and Zai
Veles
Profile Joined May 2011
United States3280 Posts
February 26 2015 16:58 GMT
#12125
also its really hard to spend 8-10 hours a day on something lol

hell its hard to find 8-10 hours a week. Time management is definitely the most important life skill
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28101 Posts
February 26 2015 17:00 GMT
#12126
On February 27 2015 01:58 Veles wrote:
also its really hard to spend 8-10 hours a day on something lol

hell its hard to find 8-10 hours a week. Time management is definitely the most important life skill
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and posting this thread suggests we all fail

I generally post here when I'm in class
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Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
February 26 2015 17:05 GMT
#12127
the amount of tournaments going on right now is kinda ridicolous
Favorite players: Gh and Zai
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44284 Posts
February 26 2015 17:07 GMT
#12128
On February 27 2015 02:05 Rocket-Bear wrote:
the amount of tournaments going on right now is kinda ridicolous

hr vs 4asc has the interesting draft

but gotta fanboy over C9
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 26 2015 17:11 GMT
#12129
On February 27 2015 02:05 Rocket-Bear wrote:
the amount of tournaments going on right now is kinda ridicolous

I now see what all the PPD salt was about with qualifiers. Those guys are going to be working like dogs just to get into these events.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
February 26 2015 17:12 GMT
#12130
Watching my fiancee for the past 3 years teaching has shown me I have no interest in ever doing it. Granted she is paid decently well, but right now she's 'stuck' in Philadelphia school district and as a music teacher has to worry about her job almost every year.

Her private students she likes, though she does hate it when they don't practice. With the house we're also getting a piano so that means instead of travelling to her students they'll come to her. That'll make things a lot easier once we get that all set up. Though I will have to figure out how soundproof our upstairs is.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-26 17:20:09
February 26 2015 17:16 GMT
#12131
Pro-tip, do not plan on putting the piano up stairs. And if you do, make sure you find out how much it weighs and if the stairs can support it. Same with the entrance to the house if you have wooden stairs or a landing.

Pianos are fucking heavy and the bane of every house. They literally have their own separate insurance for moving companies in some states. Many an eviction has been stalled due to the random piano.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
February 26 2015 17:16 GMT
#12132
ya its not a glamorous job, you have to really like what you do.

I hope her job situation improves, all those extracurricular positions (music, art, sports teams, etc) are always in jeopardy.

even my job is bc im young so im low man on the totem pole, and enrollment is dipping a bit.
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Rocket-Bear
Profile Joined July 2014
3070 Posts
February 26 2015 17:48 GMT
#12133
jonassomfan is such a dumb nickname

Jonas is a first name
"som fan" is "as hell" ish

Jonasashell

and casters are so good at saying jonassomfan good ))) would probably help if they knew it was 3 words idk
Favorite players: Gh and Zai
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 26 2015 17:50 GMT
#12134
some call him jonas
its not really their fault his name is how it is right
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Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom3341 Posts
February 26 2015 18:29 GMT
#12135
On February 27 2015 02:16 Plansix wrote:
Pro-tip, do not plan on putting the piano up stairs. And if you do, make sure you find out how much it weighs and if the stairs can support it. Same with the entrance to the house if you have wooden stairs or a landing.

Pianos are fucking heavy and the bane of every house. They literally have their own separate insurance for moving companies in some states. Many an eviction has been stalled due to the random piano.

Just pay someone to move it for you, much cheaper than a back injury, especially in America.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 26 2015 18:36 GMT
#12136
On February 27 2015 03:29 dismiss wrote:
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On February 27 2015 02:16 Plansix wrote:
Pro-tip, do not plan on putting the piano up stairs. And if you do, make sure you find out how much it weighs and if the stairs can support it. Same with the entrance to the house if you have wooden stairs or a landing.

Pianos are fucking heavy and the bane of every house. They literally have their own separate insurance for moving companies in some states. Many an eviction has been stalled due to the random piano.

Just pay someone to move it for you, much cheaper than a back injury, especially in America.

Its more that the stairs cannot support the weight of the piano and the 4 people it takes to move it.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
February 26 2015 18:39 GMT
#12137
i hate teaching because oftentimes you are more involved in the learning process than the students themselves.
they also expect you to know the material better than they do so it feels like you're learning and teaching the shit at the same time
cause lets be honest - if you weren't a bio major, nobody expects you to remember the chemical structure of atp or whatever. unless you happen to be an ap bio teacher, at which point you got to have that shit down even if the students don't give a fuck about memorizing it themselves.

had this happen to me a lot way back when i used to tutor kids for SATs
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 26 2015 18:45 GMT
#12138
PPD is grump and on a role. 80% chance UG gets banned from MLG and nearly 100% that he flames them if they play today.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
February 26 2015 19:01 GMT
#12139
On February 27 2015 03:39 andyrau wrote:
i hate teaching because oftentimes you are more involved in the learning process than the students themselves.
they also expect you to know the material better than they do so it feels like you're learning and teaching the shit at the same time
cause lets be honest - if you weren't a bio major, nobody expects you to remember the chemical structure of atp or whatever. unless you happen to be an ap bio teacher, at which point you got to have that shit down even if the students don't give a fuck about memorizing it themselves.

had this happen to me a lot way back when i used to tutor kids for SATs


its also fun when they ask questions whose answers are rooted in calculus concepts you haven't touched in 10 years XD

but if its an interesting question that they can understand the answer to, and I don't know it off hand, I let them go find the answer themselves for some bonus points via my classroom currency.

they go nuts for that stuff.
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
njt7
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden769 Posts
February 26 2015 19:03 GMT
#12140
On February 27 2015 02:48 Rocket-Bear wrote:
jonassomfan is such a dumb nickname

Jonas is a first name
"som fan" is "as hell" ish

Jonasashell

and casters are so good at saying jonassomfan good ))) would probably help if they knew it was 3 words idk


As Jonassomfan isnt a complete sentence its not that easy to translate it. One of the reasons it gets confusing is because the swedish word "som" needs the rest of the sentence to be fully understood.

The real meaning of "fan" is indeed satanic but the translation would be the devil and not hell. But the way we use it as it is a curse word would more correctly translate to the way english speakers use the word fuck. So if you want to understand what he is saying you have to see it as a curse word who amplifies the meaning of the rest of the sentence and not the actual meaning of the word.

So the translation would be Jonasasfuck or Jonaslikefuck but the meaning as I understand it should be Jonas amplified or Jonas emphasized. If we really wanna butcher the translation we could end up with Jonaswhomfucks.
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