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SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-24 23:23:17
February 24 2015 23:21 GMT
#11841
On February 25 2015 07:34 Kupon3ss wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
All this riot-approved moba talk centers on a DotA understanding of hero design and not the Riot-approved champion role model where the champion is created to do one thing and how strong that champion is is simply determined by how well it does that role, which allows them to easily buff and nerf individual champions by simply making the numbers higher or lower depending on where the champion is on the release cycle.

For example - the role of a 100-to-0 burst mage as outlined in the official riot-approval decree today

Of all the champions that were primary customers of the late Deathfire Grasp, none were more iconic than the Tiny Master of Evil himself. While we recognized and intended to preserve Veigar's role as a 100-to-0 burst mage, flatly increasing the power of a champion with such a powerful combination of crowd control and single-target damage didn't feel like the humane option (for everyone except Veigar).


Riot logic dictates that the champion's role is that of an 100-to-0 burst mage, but since they just removed an item that was basically magic damage amplification + minor burst because it allowed other champions whose roles are not a 100-to-0 burst mage to 100-to-0 burst things (which is anti-fun), they need to change the champion's abilities to allow it to continue its existence as a riot-approved 100-to-0 burst mage, but a champion of such a role also having CC is, of course, riot-unapproved


We’ve looked at the idea of roaming supports before. Alistar was one, for a while, before he roamed so well you guys transitioned him into a death-dealing jungler thanks to his nigh on unstoppable W+Q combo and extreme tower diving capabilities. So we made changes, nerfed his extra monster damage, and put him back in his traditional support pants.

Source : http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/champion-reveal/bard-wandering-caretaker

That one is pretty good too
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
February 24 2015 23:23 GMT
#11842
well duh, alistar is riot-approved for neither the roaming nor jungling roles
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-24 23:25:25
February 24 2015 23:25 GMT
#11843
"And may no player ever express creativity outside the limits allowed by our Church"
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
February 24 2015 23:29 GMT
#11844
I occasionally read the superior superior moba thread to watch them rederive moba strategy and tactics 101. What a brave new world.
DaMuffinman
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1705 Posts
February 24 2015 23:33 GMT
#11845
Had the worst flaming asshole ever in my team, he added me afterwards and flamed on - does Steam actually do something about ppl who flame/"threaten" others via chat?
But does it djent?
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
February 24 2015 23:35 GMT
#11846
keep calm and report on
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Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
February 24 2015 23:37 GMT
#11847
If he flamed you ingame, why did you add him? lol

Also, inc Secret picks of Spectre I guess? RTZ seems set on learning/trying the hero out.

Currently trying out MoM+stats Spectre vs BB/Jugg/Earth/Ember/Silencer
Steam: rook492
DaMuffinman
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1705 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-24 23:38:50
February 24 2015 23:38 GMT
#11848
Just wanted to know, I am calm, he on the other hand isn't lol.

On February 25 2015 08:37 Crusnik wrote:
If he flamed you ingame, why did you add him? lol
+ Show Spoiler +

Also, inc Secret picks of Spectre I guess? RTZ seems set on learning/trying the hero out.

Currently trying out MoM+stats Spectre vs BB/Jugg/Earth/Ember/Silencer


For the lulz
But does it djent?
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
February 24 2015 23:56 GMT
#11849
so he can gift you an item tagged with more flames
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-25 00:20:41
February 25 2015 00:19 GMT
#11850
superiormoba champ has chrono X song of the siren ult where it effects both teams but also makes everyone invulnerable

all I wanna do is change my name to 'toxic0counterplay' and then grief my team with it seriously though I don't even know what counterplay is supposed to mean anymore, at least I understand toxic

also yeah Bard has windrunner shackleshot and kinda old pitlord ult for both teams ANd gets bounty runes theres basically 2 dotas now*

oh and the veigar changes are actually so dumb and I can't wait for nidalee to get nerfed now that she is powerful riot unapproved jungler

* actually I guess you have dota 1 dota 2 HoN which is basically dota NOW superiormoba is a dota
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eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
February 25 2015 00:29 GMT
#11851
also this is probably stockholm syndrome from Icefrog + Valve's lack of communication but the overly friendly tone that Riot uses for patch notes + when they communicate on reddit straight up creeps me out
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
February 25 2015 00:43 GMT
#11852
yeah i wasnt sure how to describe the ultimate, but that sounds about right.

btw i just got the gold horn courier, only bought the arcana. thats cool i suppose. now i can infinite refresher.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
February 25 2015 00:48 GMT
#11853
its just void prism from supsupmoba guys
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Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
February 25 2015 00:55 GMT
#11854
When did Spec become all the rage to be picked every game? Comeback mechanic has gone too far, greed every game.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
February 25 2015 00:57 GMT
#11855
she hasn't?
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
February 25 2015 00:59 GMT
#11856
well rtz is spamming mom+stats spectre.. . .
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
February 25 2015 01:03 GMT
#11857
the comeback gold has always been real for spectre in this patch.
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
February 25 2015 01:08 GMT
#11858
17 hours boys.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-25 01:17:36
February 25 2015 01:12 GMT
#11859
I'm so excited about Homeworld Remastered. It's a super version of Xenon right? =D
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
February 25 2015 01:15 GMT
#11860
On February 25 2015 10:08 Shaella wrote:
17 hours boys.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/02/24/homeworld-remastered-delayed

D:
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