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l3loodraven
Profile Joined July 2013
2753 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-22 21:50:08
February 22 2015 21:45 GMT
#11481
does having enemy heroes run at you in mid and you dying like a bitch because you are skymage count as being massively outplayed?

and yeah if you let him get a few levels he's harder to kill, but if i see a skywrath mid im roaming on him level one. even once hes 3 or 4 and has all his spells, its still pretty easy as long as he doesnt have vision and you strike with the creepwave in the right position.

"fear.dankness cuts deeper than swords"
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-22 21:56:24
February 22 2015 21:54 GMT
#11482
He's a 600 range hero with 325 base MS. Unless he got massively out-blocked and has to lasthit from low ground, or you're playing one of a small subset of heroes that has sufficiently long engagement range to go on him before breaking Smoke, it's a little less straightforward than "run at him mid" to kill him at level 1.

Most of the normal gank lead-off supports like VS/SD/Rubick aren't going to have such a simple time of it.
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l3loodraven
Profile Joined July 2013
2753 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-22 22:01:21
February 22 2015 22:00 GMT
#11483
the location of the creepwave is vital in most mid ganks, hopefully you have a mid player who understands that. and since most people playing sky mid will use Q to last hit at least sparingly, the wave should push unless you have an ape in your midlane.

nothing is easy in dota, and mid ganks are quite hard in general. but skymage is definitely one of the easier mid heroes to gank.
"fear.dankness cuts deeper than swords"
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-22 22:42:53
February 22 2015 22:42 GMT
#11484
Maybe if you have ES and get off the god fissure . But in general 325 MS is enough to save you unless you have WD and Veng chain stunning you.

Unless your bad like me, but thats getting outplayed. Its not the hero/match ups fault.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
February 22 2015 22:42 GMT
#11485
ya'll just don't get why luna is good i give up
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-22 22:59:19
February 22 2015 22:58 GMT
#11486
in my particular game, i never got a ward placed on mid and reacted late. the 2nd gank was at night and though i was playing by the tower, insta hex is brutal. i got dove.

either way, i felt like i picked mid sky into a lineup that benefited from my levels (faceless chrono, ES stun, axe, lesh stun, etc) so i was able to make up for the 2 ganks by completely zoning the enemy mid whenever i was alive and teamfighting well. dunno. felt really strong even with ganks.

e: DOTA pet peeve of the day - someone picking up a fast mek then sitting in the jungle while the rest of your team is trying to do shit on the map.
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tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7084 Posts
February 22 2015 23:17 GMT
#11487
skywrath mid is pretty legit
AdministratorIn those days, spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real men, women were real women, and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
February 22 2015 23:20 GMT
#11488
On February 23 2015 07:42 Shaella wrote:
ya'll just don't get why luna is good i give up

are you just into those luna shoulders that were somehow snuck into the game or what
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
February 22 2015 23:22 GMT
#11489
On February 23 2015 08:20 eieio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2015 07:42 Shaella wrote:
ya'll just don't get why luna is good i give up

are you just into those luna shoulders that were somehow snuck into the game or what

nah those are actually legit ugly cosmetics
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
February 22 2015 23:24 GMT
#11490
On February 23 2015 08:22 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2015 08:20 eieio wrote:
On February 23 2015 07:42 Shaella wrote:
ya'll just don't get why luna is good i give up

are you just into those luna shoulders that were somehow snuck into the game or what

nah those are actually legit ugly cosmetics

ya also they inspired hella creepy comments on reddit about them which was weird

but mostly they just don't fit idk leave luna alone
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
February 22 2015 23:25 GMT
#11491
i made it finally 4/4 teammates muted from before
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
February 22 2015 23:27 GMT
#11492
On February 23 2015 08:24 eieio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2015 08:22 Shaella wrote:
On February 23 2015 08:20 eieio wrote:
On February 23 2015 07:42 Shaella wrote:
ya'll just don't get why luna is good i give up

are you just into those luna shoulders that were somehow snuck into the game or what

nah those are actually legit ugly cosmetics

ya also they inspired hella creepy comments on reddit about them which was weird

but mostly they just don't fit idk leave luna alone

they just look ugly

but whatever that bitch wears a skintight bodysuit so tight you can see her asscrack so i'm not gonna say its sexualization that comes out of nowhere.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
eieio
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States14512 Posts
February 22 2015 23:29 GMT
#11493
around half the time I actually think that luna's like a cat person and not just someone on a cat which makes it way weirder idk
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
February 22 2015 23:36 GMT
#11494
that is trippy.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
l3loodraven
Profile Joined July 2013
2753 Posts
February 22 2015 23:36 GMT
#11495
thats my fetish
"fear.dankness cuts deeper than swords"
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
February 22 2015 23:55 GMT
#11496
How has the Luna topic been going on for a bit without anyone bringing up selling mayonnaise?
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-23 01:06:36
February 23 2015 01:06 GMT
#11497
I think at this point we've given up on her voice over work. It just is what it is now.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
February 23 2015 01:41 GMT
#11498
This superior moba faker stream drama is delicious
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28101 Posts
February 23 2015 01:43 GMT
#11499
what did faker do.
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Veles
Profile Joined May 2011
United States3280 Posts
February 23 2015 01:48 GMT
#11500
imo luna stuggles because she can't man fight mid game. Sure if you get to manta/skadi/bfly you are scary but its the ~2 item timing that kills her. Early on her ult is devastating but once bkbs get up and/or enemy hp pools are higher she just gets face rushed down.

also there are some heroes in particular who wreck her like panda
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