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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-06 15:54:00
February 06 2015 15:53 GMT
#8161
On February 07 2015 00:45 Rocket-Bear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2015 00:37 Unleashing wrote:
On February 07 2015 00:34 Rocket-Bear wrote:
Isn't 2015 the "don't preorder games" year?

People who buy early access games are taking a risk.
There's nothing stopping the dev from just getting super slow with updates or stopping updates entirely if their game has already sold a good chunk of copies (lol starbound).
You're paying for access to test a game that might eventually become a finished product, or maybe it wont and you're stuck with what you already got, an unfinished product.

I'm sure most early access games will be finished and that their devs are working hard on it, but i got duped by cube world, never again paying for early access.

It's a lot more than that though.

Some devs has made preorder sort of a standard. Sometimes they release a whole new level just for a preorder which means the ones who don't preorder can't get the full game. Which is really fucking dumb.

Like preorder should at most be a small bonus. Not a complete fucking level. They essentially sell a non-complete game after the release because you can't get the full game anymore.

What were they going to do with that level anyway? They obviously developed it. It took time to develop it.
Totalbiscuit's video on it. Really good and worth watching

+ Show Spoiler +

yeah preorder bonus' are getting really out of hand.
Evolve has a really bad case of it. theyr giving away a bunch of extra characters and monsters to preorder ppl. theres also another version that goes for $100 with even more playable content. im sucked into the evolve preorder because the beta totally sucked me in but its a pretty disgusting trend
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-06 16:01:00
February 06 2015 16:00 GMT
#8162
Personally I think that it's somewhat important to distinguish between "preorder" and "kickstarter" though. Some people seem to think of them as the same thing

When Activision shits out another Call of Duty and then refuses parts of the game to me unless I preorder for no goddamn reason, thats disgusting. No it doesn't make sense that I can't play a character in (insert new FGC game here) because I didn't want to preorder it. Etc.

When a developer chooses to create a game outside of existing publishers with the goal of retaining creative control, Kickstarter is a way for consumers to vote for that product with their wallet and to basically prove to others that what that developer is doing is valuable (relevant in cases where you can't kickstart the whole game but you can use a successful kickstarter to drive other funding like selling equity etc).

Other than that, I do like preorders cuz steam lets me preload the game onto my PC and play faster ^.^ but thats only relevant for games that I want the instant they are out and don't care about reviews for anyway.
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-06 16:11:50
February 06 2015 16:09 GMT
#8163
Evolve is everything wrong with the gaming industry right now if we ignore the game itself and focus on its upcoming release.
60$ on release is a fine price for a game, if you get all available content that is, to have a game released and then on day one, even though you paid the full price you will still be missing out on content? That's plain disgusting.
Not to mention they made the game in a way that they can keep pumping paid DLC into it even with all this day one bonus content you have to pay for.
They're already planning to sell the future monsters for 15$ each :D
Good job killing my interest in your game before it's even released, 2K!

Being a spreadsheet game on day one just shows how fucking idiotic it is.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 06 2015 16:12 GMT
#8164
DLC after release is fine, since the way video game production works allows for the creative team to work on new stuff while the game goes through beta. But it’s best when games are up front about it and its truly “extra stuff” that is not core to the game. I am not a fan of Evolve’s way of handling it.

But I don’t buy a lot of $60 games any more. The next one will be the Witcher 3 on whatever platform I get that on.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
February 06 2015 16:22 GMT
#8165
On February 07 2015 00:37 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2015 23:00 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On February 06 2015 22:54 cecek wrote:
On February 06 2015 22:50 Plansix wrote:
Ponies are fine. Creeper pony fans are not.

It's just really hard for me to disconnect the two. I never knew a person who likes mlp (not sure if "brony" is offensive) irl, or even talked to anyone online. So I just assume everyone who's into mlp is a closeted pedophile. It's wrong and pretty much the definition of bad prejudice, I know.

i knew a few people in college who liked MLP to a questionable extent, but they were all fine people. jaaaasper on the other hand, is an irredeemable piece of shit

I mean taking me making jokes about cancer seriously is a bad as taking qbek's brony dom seriously. Sometimes I forget not all of you guys are in irc and thus lack context for these conversations.

if there was really an MLP fanfic writer with cancer, your joke is shit and you should feel bad, no matter how "not serious" you are
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
February 06 2015 16:23 GMT
#8166
On February 07 2015 01:22 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2015 00:37 Jaaaaasper wrote:
On February 06 2015 23:00 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On February 06 2015 22:54 cecek wrote:
On February 06 2015 22:50 Plansix wrote:
Ponies are fine. Creeper pony fans are not.

It's just really hard for me to disconnect the two. I never knew a person who likes mlp (not sure if "brony" is offensive) irl, or even talked to anyone online. So I just assume everyone who's into mlp is a closeted pedophile. It's wrong and pretty much the definition of bad prejudice, I know.

i knew a few people in college who liked MLP to a questionable extent, but they were all fine people. jaaaasper on the other hand, is an irredeemable piece of shit

I mean taking me making jokes about cancer seriously is a bad as taking qbek's brony dom seriously. Sometimes I forget not all of you guys are in irc and thus lack context for these conversations.

if there was really an MLP fanfic writer with cancer, your joke is shit and you should feel bad, no matter how "not serious" you are

There is, he posted his goodbyes and revealed his real name so people can pay their respects like yesterday
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
February 06 2015 16:27 GMT
#8167
So, Evolve is shit and the devs are terrible. For what reason did they "preload" it into my Steam library when I have no interest in playing it and only played the beta for an hour?

If Devs keep doing shit like this, riots will happen....
Steam: rook492
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
February 06 2015 16:27 GMT
#8168
yea i stand by my "irredeemable piece of shit" evaluation then
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-06 16:28:41
February 06 2015 16:27 GMT
#8169
On February 07 2015 01:23 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2015 01:22 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On February 07 2015 00:37 Jaaaaasper wrote:
On February 06 2015 23:00 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
On February 06 2015 22:54 cecek wrote:
On February 06 2015 22:50 Plansix wrote:
Ponies are fine. Creeper pony fans are not.

It's just really hard for me to disconnect the two. I never knew a person who likes mlp (not sure if "brony" is offensive) irl, or even talked to anyone online. So I just assume everyone who's into mlp is a closeted pedophile. It's wrong and pretty much the definition of bad prejudice, I know.

i knew a few people in college who liked MLP to a questionable extent, but they were all fine people. jaaaasper on the other hand, is an irredeemable piece of shit

I mean taking me making jokes about cancer seriously is a bad as taking qbek's brony dom seriously. Sometimes I forget not all of you guys are in irc and thus lack context for these conversations.

if there was really an MLP fanfic writer with cancer, your joke is shit and you should feel bad, no matter how "not serious" you are

There is, he posted his goodbyes and revealed his real name so people can pay their respects like yesterday

Whoa, dude, the guy has terminal cancer, that's terrible.

I like dark humor as much as anyone else, but you don't make it about specific people. I don't care how edgy you think you are.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
February 06 2015 16:29 GMT
#8170
Here's an article if you wanna read up on that for some reason www.horse-news.net
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Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
February 06 2015 16:31 GMT
#8171
Darkest Dungeon best game 2015.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
February 06 2015 16:33 GMT
#8172
I keep hearing amazing things about that game. I might need to check it out.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7084 Posts
February 06 2015 16:33 GMT
#8173
Being woken up at 5 AM by 2 drunk roommates is not fun
AdministratorIn those days, spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real men, women were real women, and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.
makmeatt
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
2024 Posts
February 06 2015 16:36 GMT
#8174
On February 07 2015 01:33 tehh4ck3r wrote:
Being woken up at 5 AM by 2 drunk roommates is not fun

Staying up until 5AM because of deranged ambitions is not fun either.
Also, where's my Dirty Bomb?
"Silver Edge can't break my hope" - Kryptt 2016 || "Chrono is not a debuff, you just get rekt" - Guru 2016
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
February 06 2015 16:40 GMT
#8175
It's quite good P6, although there are a few artificial difficulty barriers which are lame as fuck. Hopefully they get patched/resolved.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
February 06 2015 16:43 GMT
#8176
jaaasper honestly how the fuck can you say "lolo god hates bronies" with respect to a GUY WHO IS FUCKING DYING OF CANCER? HOW DO YOU READ THIS
+ Show Spoiler +
"Well guys, it's finally happening.
My dying days have arrived. I failed the fight and now the cancer is going to take me, and I'm so so sad.
I'm a write fag, I started writing for you guys sometime early November 2013, and I wrote mostly for dash friends, as I was a dash friend myself.
I got diagnosed with leukemia and began the fight some months ago, but now it's gotten very bad.
I've been told I have weeks to live.
I wasn't able to get near a computer or Internet for a while but I'm here now.
I'm here to tell all of you... Each and every single one of you just how much you mean to me.
I love all of you more than I can put into words.
You guys have been my friends ever since I turned up here, and you helped ignite my love for writing stories, and best of all, you let me entertain you with my stories.
I will miss you.
I'll miss writing for you guys. You have no idea how much I wanted I wrote stories while I was undergoing treatment.
Now it looks like I'll never get to do that. I'll never write again.
Never write for you again... Or be with you.
Laugh with you, post with you.
And I think that hurts more than the cancer.
So... I don't know what else to say. I'm conflicted about even posting my alias that I posts stories under because I don't want to look like an attention whore.
But I guess I'll go ahead and say it anyway;
My name was Jonathan Carver, I am not anonymous anymore. I love you, and I'll miss you when I'm gone. My writefag name was Crunchbite (pastebin.com/u/crunchbite).
You? You're anonymous. You will live. And I will live through you. You are my brothers.
I leave this world,
But I know in my heart I will be in the place where I belong, the place where I can rest and laugh and smile and not feel pain anymore.
But know this, as I roam the sunny hills of Equestria, I will miss you still.
Goodbye, /mlp/.
And... Thanks."

AND BE LIKE "oh yea gr8 joke material" KILL YOURSELF
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Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
February 06 2015 16:47 GMT
#8177
its simple you just have to be an awful human being like me.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
February 06 2015 16:48 GMT
#8178
i mean i must be an awful human being too because i'm honestly hoping jaaasper's friends/family/self suffers from cancer in the future at some point

User was temp banned for this post.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-06 16:50:18
February 06 2015 16:48 GMT
#8179
I think I will watch a couple videos on lunch break. I am going to need a game to play after I finish Gravity Ghost.

And enough drama. The "joke" was in terrible taste and bad by even IRC standards of bad. No wishing cancer on people or their families for making poor jokes in terrible taste.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
February 06 2015 16:50 GMT
#8180
a line was crossed

oh well...
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
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