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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 16 2015 16:07 GMT
#5001
Huh i didn't realize ping-pong was that big in china
I knew all the world champions were chinese or whatever but thats no different from say diving rofl
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
January 16 2015 16:09 GMT
#5002
how physical is american football compared to rugby? given that there's very little protective gear worn in rugby
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
January 16 2015 16:09 GMT
#5003
what are you talking about the world diving champion is an American named Michael Phelps and hes my personal hero
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-16 16:10:56
January 16 2015 16:10 GMT
#5004
its just as rough from what i can see.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 16 2015 16:12 GMT
#5005
They tape their ears down so they don't get ripped off. You can draw your own conclusions.
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
January 16 2015 16:15 GMT
#5006
the difference in physicality is that one sport wears pads and the other doesn't. the hits are more or less the same, but football fines head hunters..dunno how that's handled in rugby.

I think maybe it comes down to a difference in sanity.

in addition, americans bitch about signing up for a job with an occupational hazard of getting hit. so when the have head trauma its a lawsuit instead of, "well I did pick this career path"
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
January 16 2015 16:19 GMT
#5007
1 hour to go before I get my 10 year steam badge :D
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 16 2015 16:19 GMT
#5008
The lawsuit is slightly more complicated than that, since the NFL teams have doctors on staff and players were sent back out to play after having concussions. There is some level of liability when someone bruises their brain after a massive hit and the doctor gives a pat on the back and sends them back out there.

And the after effects of the concussions being "you can never be happy again" are starting to hit home with players.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 16 2015 16:19 GMT
#5009
The hit's are very different please don't try to speak to rugby unless you know about it.
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-16 16:23:01
January 16 2015 16:21 GMT
#5010
i mean, if youre hurt you can say "coach i can't play." and any dr will say, yeah i mean he has a concussion."

the issue is player bravado overtaking any sort of desire to look after yourself. i guess the legislation laid down by the league is to take the decision out of the player/team's hands.

On January 17 2015 01:19 Sn0_Man wrote:
The hit's are very different please don't try to speak to rugby unless you know about it.


enlighten me, senpai. maybe i saw soft games but ive seen rugby and Australian rules football before.
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
January 16 2015 16:23 GMT
#5011
On January 17 2015 01:19 ahswtini wrote:
1 hour to go before I get my 10 year steam badge :D


do you become a sheriff then
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
January 16 2015 16:23 GMT
#5012
What's the difference?
In vids they look like identical all male orgies
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
January 16 2015 16:27 GMT
#5013
On January 17 2015 01:23 PassiveAce wrote:
What's the difference?
In vids they look like identical all male orgies


this is my understanding as well. minus the orgy part.
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 16 2015 16:32 GMT
#5014
Due to the lack of padding, people actually hit a lot smarter in rugby etc. American Football they just dress up kids as tanks and throw them at each other.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-16 16:34:06
January 16 2015 16:33 GMT
#5015
On January 17 2015 01:21 BluemoonSC wrote:
i mean, if youre hurt you can say "coach i can't play." and any dr will say, yeah i mean he has a concussion."

the issue is player bravado overtaking any sort of desire to look after yourself. i guess the legislation laid down by the league is to take the decision out of the player/team's hands.

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On January 17 2015 01:19 Sn0_Man wrote:
The hit's are very different please don't try to speak to rugby unless you know about it.


enlighten me, senpai. maybe i saw soft games but ive seen rugby and Australian rules football before.

The issue is that you are asking someone with a head injury to make decisions if they are ok to play(hint, every player is going to say yes). Also the doctors are required by their ethical code to not let players go back onto the field if they are hurt. People can't just fall back on the defense of "The player made the decision, so its their fault." In liability, there is something called comparative negligence that addresses that issue.

This is why people hate law. They want it to provide clear, dry, black and white answers to situations. But life isn't like that and law is nothing but nuance and context. 99% of the answers are "maybe?"

On January 17 2015 01:32 Sn0_Man wrote:
Due to the lack of padding, people actually hit a lot smarter in rugby etc. American Football they just dress up kids as tanks and throw them at each other.


And since there is no way to prevent a concussion with equipment, as the hits get harder, the more peoples brains get damaged.
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TL+ Member
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 16 2015 16:37 GMT
#5016
There are still injuries in rugby of course, including a hell of a lot more bruises and black eyes lol

But afaik less concussions and shit
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
January 16 2015 16:38 GMT
#5017
mma always looked way more like a male orgy than any of the footballs... at least in football they aren't hugging each other nude for 15 minutes.
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
January 16 2015 16:45 GMT
#5018
Not nude, but over 15 minutes.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
January 16 2015 16:45 GMT
#5019
On January 17 2015 00:56 teddyoojo wrote:
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On January 17 2015 00:36 R1CH wrote:
On January 17 2015 00:18 Mithhaike wrote:
Eh I couldnt access this forum from LiquidDota. halp?

It's not a shared forum, it's only available through TL.


brilliant.


Haha, I called this.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
January 16 2015 16:48 GMT
#5020
two people an orgy does not make
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