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Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
June 17 2015 15:35 GMT
#44961
On June 18 2015 00:31 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 00:21 SKC wrote:
Its more people looking at the reborn stuff, being mad that the LoL client is a piece of shit and will probally never be updated and saying they are going to try Dota 2.

I don't think there is anything numbers wise out there.

I had a friend try to play a couple of years ago and he couldn't accept the fact that there were heroes that needed almost no gold to be cool. The idea of a position 5 support made him so grumpy that he didn't make it past the second game. He loves LoL because "everyone is equally important."


Wut, have you seen their supports? They do fucking nothing, and if they do they get shoved into a solo lane lol.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 17 2015 15:39 GMT
#44962
On June 18 2015 00:35 Crusnik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 00:31 Plansix wrote:
On June 18 2015 00:21 SKC wrote:
Its more people looking at the reborn stuff, being mad that the LoL client is a piece of shit and will probally never be updated and saying they are going to try Dota 2.

I don't think there is anything numbers wise out there.

I had a friend try to play a couple of years ago and he couldn't accept the fact that there were heroes that needed almost no gold to be cool. The idea of a position 5 support made him so grumpy that he didn't make it past the second game. He loves LoL because "everyone is equally important."


Wut, have you seen their supports? They do fucking nothing, and if they do they get shoved into a solo lane lol.

I tried to explain that to him, that the supports were the play makers and shakers of Dota. But he wanted items all the time, even as support. He wouldn't even accept that Urn and Blink were the coolest items in dota.

I sort of knew it was going to be like that, since claimed to be a "natural mid player". He asked me to show him Dota and I did. Dude is cool for board games and RPGs, sort of shitty for online team games.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-17 15:46:36
June 17 2015 15:46 GMT
#44963
pls icefraud gives extra gold to the poor in 6.84 (literally more gold if ur poorest on ur team xd)
plus extra passive gold in... 6.79 maybe?
supports are rich as shit these days (rip tower gold though 6.82 why )
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 17 2015 15:48 GMT
#44964
On June 18 2015 00:46 Sn0_Man wrote:
pls icefraud gives extra gold to the poor in 6.84 (literally more gold if ur poorest on ur team xd)
plus extra passive gold in... 6.79 maybe?
supports are rich as shit these days (rip tower gold though 6.82 why )

This was before all those changes. And even then he wouldn't have liked being a support and being under leveled compared to the cores. The idea that you make space for others to farm was to much for him.
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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32755 Posts
June 17 2015 15:49 GMT
#44965
I like being poor as a support, less items to manage and more focus on using skills properly.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
June 17 2015 15:52 GMT
#44966
yeah but support items all have to be pressed u know
no relaxing items like sny skadi
besides i can't use skills properly anyway
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44300 Posts
June 17 2015 15:55 GMT
#44967
support or core i forget to press those items anyways
this is a quote
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-17 15:56:12
June 17 2015 15:55 GMT
#44968
I agree, which is why the whole thing bummed me out. Support is one of the more interesting roles in dota because there is always something to do and it’s so varied. You can be a lane support and zone someone out or be pulling/farming jungle. Ganking and applying pressure to other lanes. Or just be bounty hunter and doing some MGS shit behind enemy lines. Of course, knowing which of these is the right thing to do is the hard part.

I could not even begin to explain the idea of BH to him. The idea that there was a hero that could make kills worth more would have just made him quit earlier. Or a hero with a backstab ability not being a core hero.

Thinking about it, sort of glad he moved to do grad work.
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-17 16:06:23
June 17 2015 16:05 GMT
#44969
Support in League of Legends (which is what I've played for a few years) was interesting for sure, but it never seemed like having gold was particularly worth it. All you did at one point was build items that helped you heal.

And then fight midgame (memory may be failing) a few years ago.

And now it looks like tank(?).

Support in LoL was basically there to ward/deward, and making plays could have been done by a lot of team members since it felt a lot like a lot of champions were designed for that.

My observation with respect to the value of the team members was that everyone being important meant that carrying a team of bad players was really, really hard.
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
June 17 2015 16:20 GMT
#44970
carrying bad players is only slightly harder from the mid lane in pubs in lol than dota

its probably harder from every other position though

but support could carry adc and as long as adc is competent, adc could snowball a game... jungle can snowball mid lane or bot lane... top lane was probably the hardest to snowball off of but certain stupid heroes like riven or nid or irelia or jax could do it

idk league in general is snowballier than dota so if you're the best player in the game you'll start your snowball fastest / most reliably
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-17 16:33:20
June 17 2015 16:33 GMT
#44971
track is one of the most retarded spell in dota anyways there's no other button that allows you to trade heroes effectively

also new esports express article is great
binary 322 was PROVOCATIVE
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-17 16:38:35
June 17 2015 16:38 GMT
#44972
On June 18 2015 01:33 andyrau wrote:
track is one of the most retarded spell in dota anyways there's no other button that allows you to trade heroes effectively

?
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silencer's base model int steal
etc

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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
June 17 2015 16:41 GMT
#44973
don't forget

suicide squad, attack!
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-17 16:46:50
June 17 2015 16:41 GMT
#44974
Spending time in the burbs to see my dad. This block near his place has a pet food store, a pet clothing store, and a pet "bakery" (whatever that is) all on the same block.
God damn I hate white people
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
June 17 2015 16:42 GMT
#44975
ur still nto trading evenly tho with those passives
track puts u at an advantage when you trade
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 17 2015 16:43 GMT
#44976
On June 18 2015 01:41 PassiveAce wrote:
Spending time in the burbs to see my dad. This block near his place has a pet food store, a pet clothing store, and a pet "bakery" all on the same block.
God damn I hate white people

Nothing says gentrified like a pet clothing store across the street from a Starbucks.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
June 17 2015 16:45 GMT
#44977
why isn't xyclopz featured

he's casting fpl eu wat a hero
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tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7084 Posts
June 17 2015 16:46 GMT
#44978
because xyclopzz is trash at speaking english and casting
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
June 17 2015 16:49 GMT
#44979
being bad at things has never stopped people from being featured
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-17 16:55:04
June 17 2015 16:49 GMT
#44980
wow what a hater

sonneikos playing naga support my hero

baited by the fucking kotlblast to end song early before sf even started channeling requiem into lost fight

the trials of attempting to use the song button correctly
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