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TI 2023 thread: https://tl.net/forum/dota-2-general/617317-ti-2023
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 21:03:19
January 07 2015 21:02 GMT
#3461
On January 08 2015 06:00 Plansix wrote:
They do not even talk about the venue at all, but there is no way its all 6 days at the main venue. Unless Value is dropping huge money.

?
4 days main event last time
6 days main event this time
seems reasonable

so many people complained that they travelled to seattle just to see team ___ yet didn't see their team on stage. So valve are fixing that. But they can't have every team on stage plus all the playoffs properly in 4 days. so now its 6
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 07 2015 21:03 GMT
#3462
On January 08 2015 06:02 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 06:00 Plansix wrote:
They do not even talk about the venue at all, but there is no way its all 6 days at the main venue. Unless Value is dropping huge money.

?
4 days main event last time
6 days main event this time
seems reasonable

I didn't think about it that way. I know those venues are mind blowing amounts of cash to rent, but that might not apply to during the week.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 21:08:05
January 07 2015 21:05 GMT
#3463
On January 08 2015 06:03 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 06:02 Sn0_Man wrote:
On January 08 2015 06:00 Plansix wrote:
They do not even talk about the venue at all, but there is no way its all 6 days at the main venue. Unless Value is dropping huge money.

?
4 days main event last time
6 days main event this time
seems reasonable

I didn't think about it that way. I know those venues are mind blowing amounts of cash to rent, but that might not apply to during the week.

mind-blowing like raising $9 million in prize money which was 1/4 of the intake so $27 million in profit?
+ Show Spoiler +
yes i'm aware there were other costs etc but the scale valve is working on is 8 digits of USD right now. They can afford it.
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Beirut
Profile Joined January 2011
United States673 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 21:08:25
January 07 2015 21:07 GMT
#3464
On January 08 2015 06:05 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 06:03 Plansix wrote:
On January 08 2015 06:02 Sn0_Man wrote:
On January 08 2015 06:00 Plansix wrote:
They do not even talk about the venue at all, but there is no way its all 6 days at the main venue. Unless Value is dropping huge money.

?
4 days main event last time
6 days main event this time
seems reasonable

I didn't think about it that way. I know those venues are mind blowing amounts of cash to rent, but that might not apply to during the week.

mind-blowing like raising $9 million in prize money which was 1/4 of the intake so $27 million in profit?


I think you mean revenue

edit: but yeah i agree with you, I think they have the $$$ and we're going to Key Arena for 6 days. I'm just curious how much money they actually make from TI
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 07 2015 21:08 GMT
#3465
Also true. The real question is, will the faceless void remodel come before they release the new compendium?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
January 07 2015 21:10 GMT
#3466
If im in town il stop by. Il be back in school in Northampton by then and im not sure if il be in boston that weekend.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 21:16:51
January 07 2015 21:11 GMT
#3467
I mean, $36M is the revenue from that particular stream not $27M. I definitely meant profit although I'm aware that there were other costs than just what went to the prize pool.

I'm also glad that we can travel to seattle on a weekend, a day or two in advance if we want, get some time in seattle, and when it's all over we have another free day before we have to get back to work. Basically bookmarking the tournament with weekends makes a lot more sense IMO since your average attendee will have to travel etc.

Its slightly more awkward for online viewers since most matches are during the week I guess, but the grand finals are on a saturday anyway so thats great.
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tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7035 Posts
January 07 2015 21:16 GMT
#3468
[image loading]

tournament oversaturation
AdministratorIn those days, spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real men, women were real women, and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 07 2015 21:19 GMT
#3469
Seems like G-League and KDL handle oversaturation far better than their competitors.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
January 07 2015 21:21 GMT
#3470
I've recently visited needsmorejpeg.com so it took me a while to realize what exactly the joke is there
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Beirut
Profile Joined January 2011
United States673 Posts
January 07 2015 21:23 GMT
#3471
On January 08 2015 06:11 Sn0_Man wrote:
I mean, $36M is the revenue from that particular stream not $27M. I definitely meant profit although I'm aware that there were other costs than just what went to the prize pool.


yeah i got you

Really happy they'll be having 6 days of main event, looks like they'll be bringing back the larger final bracket which I think was a better viewing experience. I'll be in Seattle for sure.

Invites in early May, this means teams literally have 4 months to impress. I know this is how it always is, but right now I can only think of a handful of teams that I might invite, and most of them aren't even stable.

tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7035 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 21:38:52
January 07 2015 21:38 GMT
#3472
On January 08 2015 06:23 Beirut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 06:11 Sn0_Man wrote:
I mean, $36M is the revenue from that particular stream not $27M. I definitely meant profit although I'm aware that there were other costs than just what went to the prize pool.


yeah i got you

Really happy they'll be having 6 days of main event, looks like they'll be bringing back the larger final bracket which I think was a better viewing experience. I'll be in Seattle for sure.

Invites in early May, this means teams literally have 4 months to impress. I know this is how it always is, but right now I can only think of a handful of teams that I might invite, and most of them aren't even stable.



A year ago right now EG still had Jeyo and MSS, Newbee didn't exist, VG was considered a T2 team, and people still thought Alliance was a good team. A lot can change in the time between January and May.
AdministratorIn those days, spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real men, women were real women, and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 07 2015 21:40 GMT
#3473
Fuck, all that happened in four months. Damn.

And everyone forget the annual right before TI non-sense patch.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
January 07 2015 21:50 GMT
#3474
I forgot where but I read sometime last year that valve has booked the arena for the next 3 years or something

so I'm pretty sure it's 6 days for playoffs (main event)
group stages would probably be done on lan but not played live or something?

idk i'm just throwing shit out there
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
January 07 2015 21:53 GMT
#3475
group stages will probally be done the same way they have been done in all recent TIs, live on "LAN" but without an audience.
tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7035 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-07 21:55:56
January 07 2015 21:55 GMT
#3476
eh, they'll probably have a viewing area for the group stages for VIPs like they did last year too
AdministratorIn those days, spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real men, women were real women, and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34488 Posts
January 07 2015 21:56 GMT
#3477
On January 08 2015 06:00 Jinxed wrote:
I am literally getting married on the day of the grand finals....

Something something my luck....

Big screen TV at the reception.
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
January 07 2015 22:45 GMT
#3478
On January 08 2015 06:00 Jinxed wrote:
I am literally getting married on the day of the grand finals....

Something something my luck....

you could always marry next year
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14827 Posts
January 07 2015 22:48 GMT
#3479
so apparently league people are all salty towards TL because they didn't get on the surperior moba train and went for Dota first.

This is the future u chose Liquid.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
January 07 2015 22:49 GMT
#3480
On January 08 2015 07:45 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2015 06:00 Jinxed wrote:
I am literally getting married on the day of the grand finals....

Something something my luck....

you could always marry next year

Nah, better to just leverage for TI6 trip and see it in person I think.

Can use the fact that she's never been to Washington to further help this strategy.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
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