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AnonymousSC2
Profile Joined January 2014
United States189 Posts
September 06 2014 03:00 GMT
#61
I blame Fear... EG sucked with him before... EG was at its best (by far) when Fear was gone (a fucking standin came in and they rose to the best team in the world in a matter of months.. or at least top 3 if you go by TI).. and now EG sucks again now with him back...

Kick Fear.. rise to the top... again
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
September 06 2014 03:16 GMT
#62
On September 06 2014 11:30 LetMeBeWithYou wrote:
Is Arteezy stupid or something? He talks as if he was never educated, this has been so hard to read


ur second sentence is grammatically incorrect
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
September 06 2014 03:34 GMT
#63
On September 06 2014 12:00 AnonymousSC2 wrote:
I blame Fear... EG sucked with him before... EG was at its best (by far) when Fear was gone (a fucking standin came in and they rose to the best team in the world in a matter of months.. or at least top 3 if you go by TI).. and now EG sucks again now with him back...

Kick Fear.. rise to the top... again

Correlation is not causation dude.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
AnonymousSC2
Profile Joined January 2014
United States189 Posts
September 06 2014 04:10 GMT
#64
On September 06 2014 12:34 FHDH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 12:00 AnonymousSC2 wrote:
I blame Fear... EG sucked with him before... EG was at its best (by far) when Fear was gone (a fucking standin came in and they rose to the best team in the world in a matter of months.. or at least top 3 if you go by TI).. and now EG sucks again now with him back...

Kick Fear.. rise to the top... again

Correlation is not causation dude.


I'm not so sure.. Dota is at a new level, I don't think he can compete at the level Dota is now. He has always been frustratingly average.

Top teams can't afford carrying average players. His past doesn't matter. Have to build your team to win the next TI not "we have to keep him because we owe it to him." or "We have a history." Shit doesn't matter. If you want to win TI and big tournaments, that is.
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
September 06 2014 04:21 GMT
#65
On September 06 2014 13:10 AnonymousSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 12:34 FHDH wrote:
On September 06 2014 12:00 AnonymousSC2 wrote:
I blame Fear... EG sucked with him before... EG was at its best (by far) when Fear was gone (a fucking standin came in and they rose to the best team in the world in a matter of months.. or at least top 3 if you go by TI).. and now EG sucks again now with him back...

Kick Fear.. rise to the top... again

Correlation is not causation dude.


I'm not so sure.. Dota is at a new level, I don't think he can compete at the level Dota is now. He has always been frustratingly average.

Top teams can't afford carrying average players. His past doesn't matter. Have to build your team to win the next TI not "we have to keep him because we owe it to him." or "We have a history." Shit doesn't matter. If you want to win TI and big tournaments, that is.

I agree with all of your points other than going from current performance to the idea that he is now mediocre and needs to be replaced. I don't have a very strong opinion about Fear as a player but I'm pretty sure he is better than Mason and it would have been a bad deal for the fans to not bring him back.

Give him a little time, if he sucks down the road I'll be right there with you.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
September 06 2014 05:24 GMT
#66
On September 06 2014 13:10 AnonymousSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 12:34 FHDH wrote:
On September 06 2014 12:00 AnonymousSC2 wrote:
I blame Fear... EG sucked with him before... EG was at its best (by far) when Fear was gone (a fucking standin came in and they rose to the best team in the world in a matter of months.. or at least top 3 if you go by TI).. and now EG sucks again now with him back...

Kick Fear.. rise to the top... again

Correlation is not causation dude.


I'm not so sure.. Dota is at a new level, I don't think he can compete at the level Dota is now. He has always been frustratingly average.

Top teams can't afford carrying average players. His past doesn't matter. Have to build your team to win the next TI not "we have to keep him because we owe it to him." or "We have a history." Shit doesn't matter. If you want to win TI and big tournaments, that is.


why would you blame fear ? Mason didnt carry EG to wins , it was the team who did it , they didnt play a good TEAM game when they lost , saying they were mediocre with him is a joke , as they won so many games and rose to be a top team WITH HIM , then they lost him but stood strong with a standin ,they have a good team , they do not Suck , and they will be back in shape once they start practicing hard again . also note that its possible for them to be a medioce team with Fear/Mason/Sylar/Burnning , it depends on the Meta/other teams/team mental state , see past TI winners [A]/iG who fell off after wining TI while being the best in their time.(keeping the same rosters)
you need to look at the bigger picture.
one last thing they won alot with Fear , they did not "Eg sucked with him before"
dreamseller
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Australia914 Posts
September 06 2014 12:53 GMT
#67
typical liquid forums these days. 50% inane bickering 50% discussion on topic.

good to hear a lot of candid opinions from RTZ. hopefully he doesn't come near this thread as i fear the crazy will infect his brain and somehow stop him from taking interviews
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
September 06 2014 13:06 GMT
#68
Good interview. Reading thread made me sad.
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Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
September 06 2014 13:10 GMT
#69
Not going to keep many non-redneck fans with those China comments. He said he doesn't know what's happening half the time but that ignorance didn't stop him from shitting all over the host city.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
September 06 2014 13:36 GMT
#70
On September 06 2014 12:00 AnonymousSC2 wrote:
I blame Fear... EG sucked with him before... EG was at its best (by far) when Fear was gone (a fucking standin came in and they rose to the best team in the world in a matter of months.. or at least top 3 if you go by TI).. and now EG sucks again now with him back...

Kick Fear.. rise to the top... again


This is a good post made on the verge of EG making the finals.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Churrass
Profile Joined October 2013
573 Posts
September 06 2014 14:31 GMT
#71
On September 06 2014 22:36 Heyoka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 12:00 AnonymousSC2 wrote:
I blame Fear... EG sucked with him before... EG was at its best (by far) when Fear was gone (a fucking standin came in and they rose to the best team in the world in a matter of months.. or at least top 3 if you go by TI).. and now EG sucks again now with him back...

Kick Fear.. rise to the top... again


This is a good post made on the verge of EG making the finals.


thats what happens when someone talks about something they have no idea about
Steelavocado
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2123 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-06 15:36:09
September 06 2014 15:34 GMT
#72
I read this high as f and thought it was a video interview
Also wtf c9 and EG in the finals how what who arteezy
MIRACLE IS YOUR TI7 CHAMP
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-06 20:35:27
September 06 2014 20:26 GMT
#73
On September 06 2014 04:05 FuzzyJAM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 03:14 Zaphid wrote:
On September 05 2014 23:34 DavoS wrote:
On September 05 2014 20:52 Acritter wrote:
Yeah, pretty clear from this that Artour is not exactly the brains of the operation. I love the "heroes go to lanes" conception of strategy.

Still a great interview and I like getting a chance to hear from him.

Pretty accurate. 1v1 mastery is a completely different ballpark from drafting strategy and how to achieve sidelane objectives.
So weird that these guys either get top 2 or flame out instantly, with no middle ground. I also think it's interesting that he claims there was internal issues with C9 that are fixed by Sing leaving. Sing and Aui seemed to be good bros, I heard Envy and Aui got along, and pie openly admits that he makes mistakes and is open to criticism. Not sure where the conflict would come from

I think Sing tries even harder than EE and I feel like he was really disappointed with their TI finish. He's good enough to aim for the top, and let's be honest, C9 wasn't good enough to be championship contender, they always ended up destroyed in the finals or semis by Navi/Alliance/EG

?

C9 won tournaments and had the best overall results for the year out of any Western team. Admittedly it's highly likely EG would have done better had they been around as long, but neither Na'vi nor Alliance were as successful and, funnily enough, both did worse at TI.

I have no idea why so many people dismiss C9. It's really weird.

The best results out of the year? Maybe if you mean 2014 only, but you likely don't since you're saying SADBOYS' lack of longevity hurts them.

Discounting random small tournaments like Bigpoint Battle and Eizo Cup, C9 had a gold, 5 silvers, and a bronze in the season leading up to TI4. Na'vi had 5 golds, 2 silvers, and 2 bronzes. Alliance had 4 golds, 3 silvers, and 3 bronzes. Empire had 3 golds, 3 silvers, and 2 bronzes. Fnatic had 2 golds, 5 silvers, and 2 bronzes. EG had 4 golds, a silver, and a bronze (and I'm only counting SADBOYS roster, with the roster with Fogged and Jeyo EG gets a couple more silvers). And C9's one gold was MLG, which was with rtz in.

This means that in premiere tournaments, C9 had the worst record of any western team with a direct invite. The thing is, C9 was getting all their silvers closer to TI while teams like Na'vi, Alliance, Empire, and Fnatic had fallen off and gotten most of their results earlier in the season. So C9 was the second most consistent western team right before TI (after EG), so their placing made sense.

But the person you're responding to is right (well, sort of, Sing was definitely kicked). C9 in the '13-'14 season is king of silvers.
rip
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
September 07 2014 01:00 GMT
#74

What about PPD being in the NY times? You jealous?

Did you see his comment about him losing patience or whatever? Like in the article it quotes "PPD began to lose patience with his teammates." It was me.


This made me laugh. Like, NY Times trying to avoid naming names, Arteezy's like "nope, I pissed off PPD".
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Furikawari
Profile Joined February 2014
France2522 Posts
September 08 2014 07:21 GMT
#75
On September 06 2014 12:00 AnonymousSC2 wrote:
I blame Fear... EG sucked with him before... EG was at its best (by far) when Fear was gone (a fucking standin came in and they rose to the best team in the world in a matter of months.. or at least top 3 if you go by TI).. and now EG sucks again now with him back...

Kick Fear.. rise to the top... again

QFT... WAit, it seems they can win with Fear! Such enlightened comment.
Yamulo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2096 Posts
September 08 2014 08:10 GMT
#76
Looks like Arteezy was right.
~~~Liquid Fighting (SC2)~~~
isospeedrix
Profile Joined November 2010
United States215 Posts
September 09 2014 18:39 GMT
#77
i LOVE the text format
http://www.youtube.com/isospeedrix
JP Dayne
Profile Joined June 2013
538 Posts
September 10 2014 18:07 GMT
#78
Best safelane carry?

EternalEnvy.


OH YOU SILLY RTZY
SpeaKEaSY
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1070 Posts
September 10 2014 18:56 GMT
#79
"...the girls are good though. There are actually a lot of good girls. I was doing some scouting and there was definitely some good girls."

poor Samantha
Aim for perfection, settle for mediocrity - KawaiiRice 2014
AciD_DotA
Profile Joined May 2014
United States463 Posts
September 11 2014 00:56 GMT
#80
I think people forget that rtz is still only like 17 or 18 years old. Thats still really young so give the dude a break. You act like you guys were the most mature 18 year olds on the planet or something and never made a mistake.
I change during the course of a day. I wake and I'm one person, and when I go to sleep I know for certain I'm somebody else
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