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Cant watch =(. Any restreams?
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I can't find that support guide that was written a while back; it listed all the major supports, ranked them in tiers, etc. Not the one by bumblebee. Can anyone find it?
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I think TL should contact more of the Dota 2 streamers so they register here and can promote their streams. And in the beginning TL should lower the requirements to get featured for Dota because there are not that many streamers currently with high viewer numbers.
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On September 08 2012 00:39 arkedos wrote:
I think TL should contact more of the Dota 2 streamers so they register here and can promote their streams. And in the beginning TL should lower the requirements to get featured for Dota because there are not that many streamers currently with high viewer numbers.
viewer doesnt come through TL, if a stream cant get high number, its the streamer fault. DotA2 streams are generally boring as fuck simply bc most of the streamer prefer to stack up 5 men dota and lose out on frustration in the end. It either need to be extreme pub dota like singsing normally does or extremely try hard scriming with proper coordination like synderen often did pre TI2.
Otherwise, it is just not that entertaining to watch and you could have much more fun of just playing the game yourself.
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tyvm, I derped with search or something.
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On September 08 2012 01:38 NB wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 00:39 arkedos wrote:
I think TL should contact more of the Dota 2 streamers so they register here and can promote their streams. And in the beginning TL should lower the requirements to get featured for Dota because there are not that many streamers currently with high viewer numbers. viewer doesnt come through TL, if a stream cant get high number, its the streamer fault. DotA2 streams are generally boring as fuck simply bc most of the streamer prefer to stack up 5 men dota and lose out on frustration in the end. It either need to be extreme pub dota like singsing normally does or extremely try hard scriming with proper coordination like synderen often did pre TI2. Otherwise, it is just not that entertaining to watch and you could have much more fun of just playing the game yourself.
That is just your opinion, there are many who enjoy the streams without such antics, as is evident by the many streamers who get high numbers aswell as the LoL streamers who often even hit 10-20k viewers.
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On September 08 2012 01:47 Kipsate wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 01:38 NB wrote:On September 08 2012 00:39 arkedos wrote:
I think TL should contact more of the Dota 2 streamers so they register here and can promote their streams. And in the beginning TL should lower the requirements to get featured for Dota because there are not that many streamers currently with high viewer numbers. viewer doesnt come through TL, if a stream cant get high number, its the streamer fault. DotA2 streams are generally boring as fuck simply bc most of the streamer prefer to stack up 5 men dota and lose out on frustration in the end. It either need to be extreme pub dota like singsing normally does or extremely try hard scriming with proper coordination like synderen often did pre TI2. Otherwise, it is just not that entertaining to watch and you could have much more fun of just playing the game yourself. That is just your opinion, there are many who enjoy the streams without such antics, as is evident by the many streamers who get high numbers aswell as the LoL streamers who often even hit 10-20k viewers.
There is a reason for that: LoL has a visible elo system. This create a lot of ladder fear in solo queue system that force people to watch pro games instead of actually playing the game. It also apply to sc2 as well. But if you think about game that has the same level of competitive such as counterstrike, people dont really ever wana watch it from a first person point of view but rather playing it themselves.
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Beastmaster on dire solo hardlane is one of the most fun things in the Dota. Everyone should go try it 
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On September 08 2012 01:51 NB wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 01:47 Kipsate wrote:On September 08 2012 01:38 NB wrote:On September 08 2012 00:39 arkedos wrote:
I think TL should contact more of the Dota 2 streamers so they register here and can promote their streams. And in the beginning TL should lower the requirements to get featured for Dota because there are not that many streamers currently with high viewer numbers. viewer doesnt come through TL, if a stream cant get high number, its the streamer fault. DotA2 streams are generally boring as fuck simply bc most of the streamer prefer to stack up 5 men dota and lose out on frustration in the end. It either need to be extreme pub dota like singsing normally does or extremely try hard scriming with proper coordination like synderen often did pre TI2. Otherwise, it is just not that entertaining to watch and you could have much more fun of just playing the game yourself. That is just your opinion, there are many who enjoy the streams without such antics, as is evident by the many streamers who get high numbers aswell as the LoL streamers who often even hit 10-20k viewers. There is a reason for that: LoL has a visible elo system. This create a lot of ladder fear in solo queue system that force people to watch pro games instead of actually playing the game. It also apply to sc2 as well. But if you think about game that has the same level of competitive such as counterstrike, people dont really ever wana watch it from a first person point of view but rather playing it themselves.
Actually many LoL streamers have interesting personalities or good musics. All the DotA2 streamers apart from Synderen have sucked, and even Synderen doesn't talk nearly enough so I got bored of that after like 15min as well. They just are bad at streaming.
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After lag-spike, i usually lost visibility of some enemy heroes. Is there any fix to this? I know reconnect usually helps, but i'd rather do something else..
Anyone having the same problem?
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On September 08 2012 02:22 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 01:51 NB wrote:On September 08 2012 01:47 Kipsate wrote:On September 08 2012 01:38 NB wrote:On September 08 2012 00:39 arkedos wrote:
I think TL should contact more of the Dota 2 streamers so they register here and can promote their streams. And in the beginning TL should lower the requirements to get featured for Dota because there are not that many streamers currently with high viewer numbers. viewer doesnt come through TL, if a stream cant get high number, its the streamer fault. DotA2 streams are generally boring as fuck simply bc most of the streamer prefer to stack up 5 men dota and lose out on frustration in the end. It either need to be extreme pub dota like singsing normally does or extremely try hard scriming with proper coordination like synderen often did pre TI2. Otherwise, it is just not that entertaining to watch and you could have much more fun of just playing the game yourself. That is just your opinion, there are many who enjoy the streams without such antics, as is evident by the many streamers who get high numbers aswell as the LoL streamers who often even hit 10-20k viewers. There is a reason for that: LoL has a visible elo system. This create a lot of ladder fear in solo queue system that force people to watch pro games instead of actually playing the game. It also apply to sc2 as well. But if you think about game that has the same level of competitive such as counterstrike, people dont really ever wana watch it from a first person point of view but rather playing it themselves. Actually many LoL streamers have interesting personalities or good musics. All the DotA2 streamers apart from Synderen have sucked, and even Synderen doesn't talk nearly enough so I got bored of that after like 15min as well. They just are bad at streaming.
Back when i played lol i could barely watch a stream of the more common players more than 10 minutes without feeling embarassed for the streamer. I guess this is subjective  . In the end there are a lot of people watching lol-streams who are not playing that much while most dota players are playing and not watching streams.
edit: of course there are a ton more lolplayers but the RATIO of watch-play is bigger for lol aswell (i guess)
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On September 08 2012 02:39 gaymon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 02:22 Shikyo wrote:On September 08 2012 01:51 NB wrote:On September 08 2012 01:47 Kipsate wrote:On September 08 2012 01:38 NB wrote:On September 08 2012 00:39 arkedos wrote:
I think TL should contact more of the Dota 2 streamers so they register here and can promote their streams. And in the beginning TL should lower the requirements to get featured for Dota because there are not that many streamers currently with high viewer numbers. viewer doesnt come through TL, if a stream cant get high number, its the streamer fault. DotA2 streams are generally boring as fuck simply bc most of the streamer prefer to stack up 5 men dota and lose out on frustration in the end. It either need to be extreme pub dota like singsing normally does or extremely try hard scriming with proper coordination like synderen often did pre TI2. Otherwise, it is just not that entertaining to watch and you could have much more fun of just playing the game yourself. That is just your opinion, there are many who enjoy the streams without such antics, as is evident by the many streamers who get high numbers aswell as the LoL streamers who often even hit 10-20k viewers. There is a reason for that: LoL has a visible elo system. This create a lot of ladder fear in solo queue system that force people to watch pro games instead of actually playing the game. It also apply to sc2 as well. But if you think about game that has the same level of competitive such as counterstrike, people dont really ever wana watch it from a first person point of view but rather playing it themselves. Actually many LoL streamers have interesting personalities or good musics. All the DotA2 streamers apart from Synderen have sucked, and even Synderen doesn't talk nearly enough so I got bored of that after like 15min as well. They just are bad at streaming. Back when i played lol i could barely watch a stream of the more common players more than 10 minutes without feeling embarassed for the streamer. I guess this is subjective . In the end there are a lot of people watching lol-streams who are not playing that much while most dota players are playing and not watching streams.
That doesn't really make sense because LoL has like the most games running every second out of any multiplayer game
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Damn... 87k dota players online in dota 2 client. Didn't realize the beta has grown this much.
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On September 08 2012 02:22 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 01:51 NB wrote:On September 08 2012 01:47 Kipsate wrote:On September 08 2012 01:38 NB wrote:On September 08 2012 00:39 arkedos wrote:
I think TL should contact more of the Dota 2 streamers so they register here and can promote their streams. And in the beginning TL should lower the requirements to get featured for Dota because there are not that many streamers currently with high viewer numbers. viewer doesnt come through TL, if a stream cant get high number, its the streamer fault. DotA2 streams are generally boring as fuck simply bc most of the streamer prefer to stack up 5 men dota and lose out on frustration in the end. It either need to be extreme pub dota like singsing normally does or extremely try hard scriming with proper coordination like synderen often did pre TI2. Otherwise, it is just not that entertaining to watch and you could have much more fun of just playing the game yourself. That is just your opinion, there are many who enjoy the streams without such antics, as is evident by the many streamers who get high numbers aswell as the LoL streamers who often even hit 10-20k viewers. There is a reason for that: LoL has a visible elo system. This create a lot of ladder fear in solo queue system that force people to watch pro games instead of actually playing the game. It also apply to sc2 as well. But if you think about game that has the same level of competitive such as counterstrike, people dont really ever wana watch it from a first person point of view but rather playing it themselves. Actually many LoL streamers have interesting personalities or good musics. All the DotA2 streamers apart from Synderen have sucked, and even Synderen doesn't talk nearly enough so I got bored of that after like 15min as well. They just are bad at streaming.
well i never watch stream for personality and i also never watch LoL stream :-/... but that doesnt change my very first point that bringing DotA2 streamers to TL will not be the correct way to improve your stream viewing number.
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On September 08 2012 02:22 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 01:51 NB wrote:On September 08 2012 01:47 Kipsate wrote:On September 08 2012 01:38 NB wrote:On September 08 2012 00:39 arkedos wrote:
I think TL should contact more of the Dota 2 streamers so they register here and can promote their streams. And in the beginning TL should lower the requirements to get featured for Dota because there are not that many streamers currently with high viewer numbers. viewer doesnt come through TL, if a stream cant get high number, its the streamer fault. DotA2 streams are generally boring as fuck simply bc most of the streamer prefer to stack up 5 men dota and lose out on frustration in the end. It either need to be extreme pub dota like singsing normally does or extremely try hard scriming with proper coordination like synderen often did pre TI2. Otherwise, it is just not that entertaining to watch and you could have much more fun of just playing the game yourself. That is just your opinion, there are many who enjoy the streams without such antics, as is evident by the many streamers who get high numbers aswell as the LoL streamers who often even hit 10-20k viewers. There is a reason for that: LoL has a visible elo system. This create a lot of ladder fear in solo queue system that force people to watch pro games instead of actually playing the game. It also apply to sc2 as well. But if you think about game that has the same level of competitive such as counterstrike, people dont really ever wana watch it from a first person point of view but rather playing it themselves. Actually many LoL streamers have interesting personalities or good musics. All the DotA2 streamers apart from Synderen have sucked, and even Synderen doesn't talk nearly enough so I got bored of that after like 15min as well. They just are bad at streaming.
Singsing?
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By the way, anyone know if Zombies from undying benefit with vlad dmg aura?
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On September 08 2012 02:22 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 01:51 NB wrote:On September 08 2012 01:47 Kipsate wrote:On September 08 2012 01:38 NB wrote:On September 08 2012 00:39 arkedos wrote:
I think TL should contact more of the Dota 2 streamers so they register here and can promote their streams. And in the beginning TL should lower the requirements to get featured for Dota because there are not that many streamers currently with high viewer numbers. viewer doesnt come through TL, if a stream cant get high number, its the streamer fault. DotA2 streams are generally boring as fuck simply bc most of the streamer prefer to stack up 5 men dota and lose out on frustration in the end. It either need to be extreme pub dota like singsing normally does or extremely try hard scriming with proper coordination like synderen often did pre TI2. Otherwise, it is just not that entertaining to watch and you could have much more fun of just playing the game yourself. That is just your opinion, there are many who enjoy the streams without such antics, as is evident by the many streamers who get high numbers aswell as the LoL streamers who often even hit 10-20k viewers. There is a reason for that: LoL has a visible elo system. This create a lot of ladder fear in solo queue system that force people to watch pro games instead of actually playing the game. It also apply to sc2 as well. But if you think about game that has the same level of competitive such as counterstrike, people dont really ever wana watch it from a first person point of view but rather playing it themselves. Actually many LoL streamers have interesting personalities or good musics. All the DotA2 streamers apart from Synderen have sucked, and even Synderen doesn't talk nearly enough so I got bored of that after like 15min as well. They just are bad at streaming.
I agree with this. No dota streamer has really taken me in like Demuslim or even Voy/Scarra/TOO do. Most just sit play their game with friends then stream the pub. They aren't really building a show or catering for the audience. I think LoL streaming is most likely the best gaming streams I've watched aside from the few standouts like Demu(<3). They aren't just playing and streaming, they specifically doing a "show"
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On September 08 2012 03:10 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2012 02:22 Shikyo wrote:On September 08 2012 01:51 NB wrote:On September 08 2012 01:47 Kipsate wrote:On September 08 2012 01:38 NB wrote:On September 08 2012 00:39 arkedos wrote:
I think TL should contact more of the Dota 2 streamers so they register here and can promote their streams. And in the beginning TL should lower the requirements to get featured for Dota because there are not that many streamers currently with high viewer numbers. viewer doesnt come through TL, if a stream cant get high number, its the streamer fault. DotA2 streams are generally boring as fuck simply bc most of the streamer prefer to stack up 5 men dota and lose out on frustration in the end. It either need to be extreme pub dota like singsing normally does or extremely try hard scriming with proper coordination like synderen often did pre TI2. Otherwise, it is just not that entertaining to watch and you could have much more fun of just playing the game yourself. That is just your opinion, there are many who enjoy the streams without such antics, as is evident by the many streamers who get high numbers aswell as the LoL streamers who often even hit 10-20k viewers. There is a reason for that: LoL has a visible elo system. This create a lot of ladder fear in solo queue system that force people to watch pro games instead of actually playing the game. It also apply to sc2 as well. But if you think about game that has the same level of competitive such as counterstrike, people dont really ever wana watch it from a first person point of view but rather playing it themselves. Actually many LoL streamers have interesting personalities or good musics. All the DotA2 streamers apart from Synderen have sucked, and even Synderen doesn't talk nearly enough so I got bored of that after like 15min as well. They just are bad at streaming. I agree with this. No dota streamer has really taken me in like Demuslim or even Voy/Scarra/TOO do. Most just sit play their game with friends then stream the pub. They aren't really building a show or catering for the audience. I think LoL streaming is most likely the best gaming streams I've watched aside from the few standouts like Demu(<3). They aren't just playing and streaming, they specifically doing a "show"
Have you watched much SingSing?
He's slightly off putting to those people who don't like swearing and such, but if you don't give a fuck about swearing he's amazing.
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I'm talking about in general. SingSing does exactly what I was saying so he's one of the few dota guys , possibly the only that doesn't just take streaming as a side thing.
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