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LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
September 06 2012 21:52 GMT
#19321
I'm so glad that I found TL <3
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 00:55:01
September 07 2012 00:51 GMT
#19322
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
September 07 2012 00:53 GMT
#19323
tip #1: dont play her as a hard carry
tip #2: dont play naga if u are new
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
September 07 2012 00:54 GMT
#19324
On September 07 2012 09:53 NB wrote:
tip #1: dont play her as a hard carry
tip #2: dont play naga if u are new


wow sick tips..brb gonna delete my post, sorry for asking.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28104 Posts
September 07 2012 01:04 GMT
#19325
On September 07 2012 03:51 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 03:50 da_head wrote:
On September 07 2012 03:44 Firebolt145 wrote:
On September 07 2012 03:16 wangstra wrote:
Ugh when is tentative release of Dota2? Watching tourneys but waiting to play and getting to know the game more directly is killing any anticipation.

You can buy the game for $5-7.

how? trading keys?

Yeah. 2 keys for 1 beta invite if you are willing to wait or know someone, 3 keys if you are impatient.

4 keys if you are my brother and are also very stupid. lol
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Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
September 07 2012 01:24 GMT
#19326
On September 07 2012 10:04 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 03:51 Nevuk wrote:
On September 07 2012 03:50 da_head wrote:
On September 07 2012 03:44 Firebolt145 wrote:
On September 07 2012 03:16 wangstra wrote:
Ugh when is tentative release of Dota2? Watching tourneys but waiting to play and getting to know the game more directly is killing any anticipation.

You can buy the game for $5-7.

how? trading keys?

Yeah. 2 keys for 1 beta invite if you are willing to wait or know someone, 3 keys if you are impatient.

4 keys if you are my brother and are also very stupid. lol


no price is too high for the glory that is Dota 2
ffxiv enjoyer
MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
September 07 2012 01:27 GMT
#19327
On September 07 2012 10:24 DoNotDisturb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 10:04 TheEmulator wrote:
On September 07 2012 03:51 Nevuk wrote:
On September 07 2012 03:50 da_head wrote:
On September 07 2012 03:44 Firebolt145 wrote:
On September 07 2012 03:16 wangstra wrote:
Ugh when is tentative release of Dota2? Watching tourneys but waiting to play and getting to know the game more directly is killing any anticipation.

You can buy the game for $5-7.

how? trading keys?

Yeah. 2 keys for 1 beta invite if you are willing to wait or know someone, 3 keys if you are impatient.

4 keys if you are my brother and are also very stupid. lol


no price is too high for the glory that is Dota 2

quoted for truth
"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 02:05:10
September 07 2012 02:04 GMT
#19328
200 cs with naga at 24 mins hehehhee.... but yeah, i didnt have time to answer exactly why naga or pretty much ever carries/semi carries are really bad for newb to play.

1/ They requires solid mechanic to grow and be played to their full potential. By mechanic i mean mini map awareness and last hitting. Try last hitting a lone in a 1v0 game at mid for 10 mins, if you have around 60-70 CS(not counting deny) then you might be able to play a carry hero. Minimap awareness is to spott out farming location on the map. In order to do this, you need to understand the basic of creep wave behavior based on lane, spells, pull, timing, ganker position etc... This is much more complicated compare to LoL simply due to the map design(juke/pull spot), game mechanic or simply the size of the map is massively bigger.

2/ They dont feel satisfy if you play them in lower skill level. In fact, you will probably never be able to reach the item requirement for an Antimage or a broodmother to ever kill anyone. Game at lower tier often end up with heavy pusher such as Leshrac, Krobelus pushing down your tower really early on, cause you to lose map control and things just sstart rolling down the hill from there. Newb often get bored really fast playing carries simply bc they cant really contribute to team and most oftenly feed in teamfight bc of their heroes's squishy-ness.

Here are my proposal on heroes that newb should be playing:

1/ All hero that Pyrion flax made a video guide about. Seriously, that guy is a complete newb and he enjoy the game through out those heroes, you must be too. Here is the link


2/ Heroes that has good nuke and good escape mechanic. Good example would be Queen of Pain, Bounty Hunter, Rikimaru, Sand king etc... There heroes works pretty much on every level of the game, their effectiveness does skill up at the top high end of skill level but they dont scale down too much in lower league. Playing these heroes will give you fun, fundamental knowledge introduction into the game play mechanic etc....

3/ Gimick combination of heroes that could help you and your friend rape noob. Try running Dark Seer and Brood mother on a same lane with your friend, put ionshell on the brood and hug the enemy. It might look extremely broken to most of the newb out there.

4/ Heroes that has good farming mechanic that replace your lack of last hitting skill: Nature Prophet, Dark seer, Enigma(check a guide on this), Axe,...

5/ Lastly, easy support heroes that doesnt really take any skill to play(doesnt mean that they are bad, some are extremely good): Lich, Dazzle, Venomancer, Tide....
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
September 07 2012 03:29 GMT
#19329
Hmm, I'm going to assume there might be a patch today, Valve have always said ahead of time whenever there won't be a patch for the week. Interesting that they have waited so long today without saying a peep
Windwaker
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany1597 Posts
September 07 2012 03:33 GMT
#19330
On September 07 2012 12:29 Dommk wrote:
Hmm, I'm going to assume there might be a patch today, Valve have always said ahead of time whenever there won't be a patch for the week. Interesting that they have waited so long today without saying a peep

i really hope you are right
The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother
tpmraven
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States833 Posts
September 07 2012 03:49 GMT
#19331
On September 07 2012 11:04 NB wrote:
200 cs with naga at 24 mins hehehhee.... but yeah, i didnt have time to answer exactly why naga or pretty much ever carries/semi carries are really bad for newb to play.

1/ They requires solid mechanic to grow and be played to their full potential. By mechanic i mean mini map awareness and last hitting. Try last hitting a lone in a 1v0 game at mid for 10 mins, if you have around 60-70 CS(not counting deny) then you might be able to play a carry hero. Minimap awareness is to spott out farming location on the map. In order to do this, you need to understand the basic of creep wave behavior based on lane, spells, pull, timing, ganker position etc... This is much more complicated compare to LoL simply due to the map design(juke/pull spot), game mechanic or simply the size of the map is massively bigger.

2/ They dont feel satisfy if you play them in lower skill level. In fact, you will probably never be able to reach the item requirement for an Antimage or a broodmother to ever kill anyone. Game at lower tier often end up with heavy pusher such as Leshrac, Krobelus pushing down your tower really early on, cause you to lose map control and things just sstart rolling down the hill from there. Newb often get bored really fast playing carries simply bc they cant really contribute to team and most oftenly feed in teamfight bc of their heroes's squishy-ness.

Here are my proposal on heroes that newb should be playing:

1/ All hero that Pyrion flax made a video guide about. Seriously, that guy is a complete newb and he enjoy the game through out those heroes, you must be too. Here is the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f-jR3Vo3Rw

2/ Heroes that has good nuke and good escape mechanic. Good example would be Queen of Pain, Bounty Hunter, Rikimaru, Sand king etc... There heroes works pretty much on every level of the game, their effectiveness does skill up at the top high end of skill level but they dont scale down too much in lower league. Playing these heroes will give you fun, fundamental knowledge introduction into the game play mechanic etc....

3/ Gimick combination of heroes that could help you and your friend rape noob. Try running Dark Seer and Brood mother on a same lane with your friend, put ionshell on the brood and hug the enemy. It might look extremely broken to most of the newb out there.

4/ Heroes that has good farming mechanic that replace your lack of last hitting skill: Nature Prophet, Dark seer, Enigma(check a guide on this), Axe,...

5/ Lastly, easy support heroes that doesnt really take any skill to play(doesnt mean that they are bad, some are extremely good): Lich, Dazzle, Venomancer, Tide....


i adore that video. just made my night
(⌐■_■) Like a boss
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 05:18:45
September 07 2012 05:18 GMT
#19332
Darn, I guess it's safe to assume to patch ? It is like 3:30~pm here in Aus so I guess it's pretty late over there in the US. So weird though, Valve haven't really dropped a beat before when putting up a blog when there has/hasn't been a patch
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
September 07 2012 05:33 GMT
#19333
GG LIFE
DK and LGD Dodging all-star event
No Burning vs Zhou Techies
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
September 07 2012 05:45 GMT
#19334
*we won enough money to be fat*
*gg life*

I dont think patch gona come anytime soon. As we see from pictures from TI2, they are still twitching meepo model wise and there could be a DotA patch(not dota2, dota1) on the way so they could just wait for the big patch to be fully coded on dota2 to implement them all together.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
September 07 2012 11:18 GMT
#19335
ACE League All-stars match live

http://www.fengyunzhibo.com/tv/gtvyouxi.htm

big doj's by DK and LGD tho...
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Bisonte
Profile Joined March 2012
Portugal60 Posts
September 07 2012 11:50 GMT
#19336
Anyone watching the WCG Malaysia Nationals?
E-SPORTS!
Frost
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1042 Posts
September 07 2012 12:20 GMT
#19337
Just played against nB~ Was a fun game ^.^
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
September 07 2012 12:32 GMT
#19338
On September 07 2012 20:50 Bisonte wrote:
Anyone watching the WCG Malaysia Nationals?

Yep
-->>> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=328100
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
September 07 2012 12:54 GMT
#19339
On September 07 2012 20:18 Kupon3ss wrote:
ACE League All-stars match live

http://www.fengyunzhibo.com/tv/gtvyouxi.htm

big doj's by DK and LGD tho...


any restream of that. that stream is unwatchable.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
September 07 2012 13:09 GMT
#19340
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