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Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
September 03 2014 06:27 GMT
#127081
On September 03 2014 15:24 icystorage wrote:
3/2/0/1 is my skill build with treads -> basi -> drums + wand -> diffusal -> diffusal 2 -> manta.

I always go immediately diffu2 after diffu1. Shit's too good.


ur ults pretty much pointless without ur passive
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18918 Posts
September 03 2014 06:28 GMT
#127082
On September 03 2014 15:27 Kraznaya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2014 15:24 icystorage wrote:
3/2/0/1 is my skill build with treads -> basi -> drums + wand -> diffusal -> diffusal 2 -> manta.

I always go immediately diffu2 after diffu1. Shit's too good.


ur ults pretty much pointless without ur passive

magic resist duhhhhhhhhhhh
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-03 06:33:43
September 03 2014 06:33 GMT
#127083
magic resist @_@

after six its lance -> max 3rd -> ulti if possible -> doppelwalk
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18918 Posts
September 03 2014 06:39 GMT
#127084
yo shaella i actually did LOSE to a PL today though.

The weird thing is he went midas AND vlads.
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
September 03 2014 06:41 GMT
#127085
http://www.dotabuff.com/players/126043949/matches?date=&faction=&hero=phantom-lancer&lobby_type=&game_mode=&region=&duration=

Midas Vlads too good :D :D :D
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14827 Posts
September 03 2014 06:52 GMT
#127086
On September 03 2014 15:39 Comeh wrote:
yo shaella i actually did LOSE to a PL today though.

The weird thing is he went midas AND vlads.

seriously vlads is dumb and is used by people who don't understand the hero
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Resisty
Profile Joined December 2011
United States375 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-03 07:00:22
September 03 2014 06:59 GMT
#127087
On September 03 2014 15:33 icystorage wrote:
magic resist @_@

after six its lance -> max 3rd -> ulti if possible -> doppelwalk


Just like to say that aui disagrees
Humans are greedy, therefore they are human.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
September 03 2014 07:01 GMT
#127088
you can leave it at 1 o_o but i prefer to play it safe so i put leave it at 2
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
September 03 2014 07:14 GMT
#127089
dopple allows you to farm a lot faster tho
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44159 Posts
September 03 2014 07:20 GMT
#127090
now that i think about it .. i never actually played against PL ever since i switched to dota 2..

and i never used PL just because i don't like the PL model in dota .. wc3 PL looks awesome and feels awesome to use
this is a quote
ScarPe
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany392 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-03 07:26:02
September 03 2014 07:23 GMT
#127091
On September 03 2014 15:52 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2014 15:39 Comeh wrote:
yo shaella i actually did LOSE to a PL today though.

The weird thing is he went midas AND vlads.

seriously vlads is dumb and is used by people who don't understand the hero


no, vlads is build by people that watch progames, and dont understand that the pros build vlads on PL for a special reason.
its not like its a good itemchoice in general, but if you feel like you need an early contribution to the teamfight, then vladmirs isnt the worst choice to make.

i used to buy vanguard on PL though. it is EXTREMELY safe, but you get online later.
you can tank junglecreeps without using doppelwalk at every camp also.
you will never go back to base with vanguard.
Awaken my child and embrace the glory that is your birthright. -[The Overmind]
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
September 03 2014 07:25 GMT
#127092
it's actually the worst item to get for early teamfights o_o

buy vlads if you are afk~farming + splitpushing. it gives you the sustain you need after the tranqs nerf.

if you want early fight contributions, go for treads -> drums + wand. stand back and spam lance.
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44159 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-03 07:27:05
September 03 2014 07:25 GMT
#127093
On September 03 2014 16:23 ScarPe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2014 15:52 Shaella wrote:
On September 03 2014 15:39 Comeh wrote:
yo shaella i actually did LOSE to a PL today though.

The weird thing is he went midas AND vlads.

seriously vlads is dumb and is used by people who don't understand the hero


no, vlads is build by people that watch progames, and dont understand that the pros build vlads on PL for a special reason.
its not like its a good itemchoice in general, but if you feel like you need an early contribution to the teamfight, then vladmirs isnt the worst choice to make.

uhm almost everyone i know builds vlads on melee heroes even a few years ago

and some of them don't even know progaming exists
:D
this is a quote
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14827 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-03 07:55:53
September 03 2014 07:54 GMT
#127094
I actually fully agree with Aui and thats always the way i played PL, you NEED 8 illusions at 11. Seriously. Juxtapose is vital to max 2nd. Dopple is fine at 1

I can actually see the vanguard need nowdays, you're so squishy and lacking any sustained farming ability early, and by getting the radiance you up your farm speed significantly

but you know i only have like a 75% wr on pl whatever

You can't do a yasha diffu heart build anymore, you have to get tankier earlier.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44159 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-03 07:58:33
September 03 2014 07:57 GMT
#127095
On September 03 2014 16:54 Shaella wrote:
I actually fully agree with Aui and thats always the way i played PL, you NEED 8 illusions at 11. Seriously. Juxtapose is vital to max 2nd. Dopple is fine at 1

I can actually see the vanguard need nowdays, you're so squishy and lacking any sustained farming ability early, and by getting the radiance you up your farm speed significantly

but you know i only have like a 75% wr on pl whatever

You can't do a yasha diffu heart build anymore, you have to get tankier earlier.

lies !! evidence !

seriously though jokes aside .. i am curious so is it ok for you to post your dotabuff account here?
this is a quote
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14827 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-03 07:59:25
September 03 2014 07:59 GMT
#127096
Here it is, note i have played significantly less PL since his illusions were nerfed (hero totally crap since then), Have been preferring ES and Mirana since then.

i am not a windrunner authority.

http://www.dotabuff.com/players/33136694
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44159 Posts
September 03 2014 08:05 GMT
#127097
On September 03 2014 16:59 Shaella wrote:
Here it is, note i have played significantly less PL since his illusions were nerfed (hero totally crap since then), Have been preferring ES and Mirana since then.

i am not a windrunner authority.

http://www.dotabuff.com/players/33136694

Wow. You are one dedicated PL picker.

When do you buy threads and when do you buy tranquil ? do you buy midas pre-10 minutes or after you brought starting items like threads and etc ?
this is a quote
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
September 03 2014 08:07 GMT
#127098
On September 03 2014 09:33 Targe wrote:
i already use that mod that hides all cosmetics


I found those exciting words down there.
Q: Which mod?
“Are you with the Cartel? Because you’re definitely an Angel.”
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14827 Posts
September 03 2014 08:07 GMT
#127099
I bought tranquil before the change, never buy them now, totally worthless.

Things like midas before treads or vice versa are based off of gamestate. Generally you should get boots before midas, finish treads if you're under pressure
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
September 03 2014 08:09 GMT
#127100
never go blindly go midas tho. if you have freefarm or trilane vs 1 offlane then go midas, if not then aim for early fighting
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