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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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suicideyear
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
though to be fair it's shit | ||
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Fleetfeet
Canada2853 Posts
On August 31 2014 12:41 .mercy wrote: I dont understand when people pick heroes like CM and BH because they don't believe 4k has a meta... Even though the other team just deathballed and ended in 20 minutes Like I said they would.. Some games are simply unwinnable I'd rather pick to the team than the meta, and I've had some games where CM was exactly the right pick. CM, Jugg, offlane bristle, mid necro, jungle enigma. It's not like that lineup is awful, and CM isn't really in thaaaaaat bad of a spot, really. She never had much base damage to speak of, so the fact that she hits like a ranged creep now is just a small step down from hitting like a catapult. On another topic, I started playing solo ranked again, and am actually feeling fucking good about it. Perhaps I'm not totally awful after all. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
both are annoying tho. | ||
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tehh4ck3r
Magrathea7087 Posts
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r_con
United States824 Posts
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tehh4ck3r
Magrathea7087 Posts
On August 31 2014 06:35 BluemoonSC wrote: in my experience there are two types of DOTA players at that level the first kind of DOTA player is the player that knows a lot about the game, having played so long, but isn't mechanically sound. they know the items and the hero builds, but their mechanics aren't so great. maybe they make some bad decisions along the way. or bad decisions are made as a result of their bad mechanics (e.g. mis click) the second kind of DOTA player is a player that has general game ability, mechanically speaking. they know how the game should work and are mechanically sound, but lack the knowledge about the game (items, builds, interactions, etc). this is TB. he's a good gamer, he just lacks the knowledge of DOTA. ^ this is pretty much the story of my 2.5k life | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
On August 31 2014 13:39 Fleetfeet wrote: I'd rather pick to the team than the meta, and I've had some games where CM was exactly the right pick. CM, Jugg, offlane bristle, mid necro, jungle enigma. It's not like that lineup is awful, and CM isn't really in thaaaaaat bad of a spot, really. She never had much base damage to speak of, so the fact that she hits like a ranged creep now is just a small step down from hitting like a catapult. On another topic, I started playing solo ranked again, and am actually feeling fucking good about it. Perhaps I'm not totally awful after all. I have a friend who absolutely loves playing CM. I have no idea why, just does. I make sure to get some mana-hungry low-int heroes to pair with her, such as Slark or Ursa, who can handle themselves pretty well. It works quite well. Just find something comfortable that you can play along the hero that the other player is clearly comfortable with. | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
On August 31 2014 14:01 r_con wrote: so i stacked with 2.3-2.6k friends, its funny how bad they are, its like actually hilarious, i can't even be angry, they have trouble just casting spells at the right time, and they are trying to play hard as fuck heroes like invoker and earth spirit, 2k must be a weird as fuck place. I've played with people who were probably the equivalent of 1k or below, long before DOTA2 was even a glimmer in Gaben's eye. It's really just a test of whoever manages to get the best idea of how to play and execute well. So much is completely random, like the guy who got Mithril Hammers on Tiny. And because we were all friends, and none of us really knew how to play, it was a huge amount of fun. Then I went and learned the game seriously and could stomp them all effortlessly and it stopped being fun. There's a lesson there, really. | ||
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Yurie
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
On August 31 2014 14:19 Yurie wrote: Yup. The same lesson any pro has when playing with bad friends. Tone it down, enjoy it together with them and win by a narrow margin instead of going full out. I will never apply that mentality to DotA though, it is serious business. I'm talking about the level of "better" where simply my mechanics were so far ahead that it did not matter what I did. I was guaranteed to win just based on my sheer ability. For reference, this was the group of friends that I won a 1v11 in with WC3. Emerald Gardens, of course. There's no fucking way that should have happened. They could have picked 11 Undead and sent their starting Ghouls to all attack-move into my base. I would have lost. But I was so much better, comparably, that it didn't matter. That's why it stopped being fun. Not that I was tryharding and obliterating them that way. | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
On August 31 2014 14:23 Nevuk wrote: Will the release of techies possibly lead to the end of the deathball meta in pubs? Might be missing the joke here, but... No, it won't. Deathball strats place Sentries with the push to stop Moonlight Shadow/Nyx initiations/whatever half the time anyways. It's relatively effortless to drop a few Sents to completely neutralize one player's damage output. And this happens even in pubs. In the games I play, at least. | ||
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r_con
United States824 Posts
On August 31 2014 14:08 Acritter wrote: I've played with people who were probably the equivalent of 1k or below, long before DOTA2 was even a glimmer in Gaben's eye. It's really just a test of whoever manages to get the best idea of how to play and execute well. So much is completely random, like the guy who got Mithril Hammers on Tiny. And because we were all friends, and none of us really knew how to play, it was a huge amount of fun. Then I went and learned the game seriously and could stomp them all effortlessly and it stopped being fun. There's a lesson there, really. this guy has 416 games on invoker with a 44 percent winrate on invoker http://www.dotabuff.com/players/103189630 2.3k invoker pickers baby, not being able to get more than 2 cs a minute | ||
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idonthinksobro
3138 Posts
On August 31 2014 15:18 r_con wrote: this guy has 416 games on invoker with a 44 percent winrate on invoker http://www.dotabuff.com/players/103189630 2.3k invoker pickers baby, not being able to get more than 2 cs a minute the sad thing is that he also doesn't improve, if you filter last week or last month his winrate is still 45% or lower | ||
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Fleetfeet
Canada2853 Posts
On August 31 2014 14:05 Acritter wrote: I have a friend who absolutely loves playing CM. I have no idea why, just does. I make sure to get some mana-hungry low-int heroes to pair with her, such as Slark or Ursa, who can handle themselves pretty well. It works quite well. Just find something comfortable that you can play along the hero that the other player is clearly comfortable with. CM's just really comfortable to play because she's so versatile. She's got too weak a lane to justify always being picked, but she used to be my go-to support in any game where a counterpick / synergy pick wasn't obvious. CM does everything decently and can support almost any lineup. She does all three of the greedy/aggro/defensive roles, it's just... low base stats across the board make life hard. | ||
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goody153
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On August 31 2014 13:48 Kipsate wrote: I see Doom more then FV both are annoying tho. i found a solution instapick doom all the time .. doom has guaranteed farm even when jungling at least you only get a possibility to face one annoying hero | ||
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idonthinksobro
3138 Posts
On August 31 2014 15:53 Fleetfeet wrote: CM's just really comfortable to play because she's so versatile. She's got too weak a lane to justify always being picked, but she used to be my go-to support in any game where a counterpick / synergy pick wasn't obvious. CM does everything decently and can support almost any lineup. She does all three of the greedy/aggro/defensive roles, it's just... low base stats across the board make life hard. i hate to play cm, but i like cm in my game the extra mana is so nice. | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
as someone that really appreciates classical music/ orchestra this shit is the bees KNEES | ||
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
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