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On August 30 2014 11:27 Belisarius wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2014 09:23 BluemoonSC wrote:On August 30 2014 09:16 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Yeah. On the other hand I don't want heroes like Tinker and Skywrath nerfed into the ground, because they're pretty fun to play. if icefrog is good at one thing, its not nerfing heroes into obscurity. except for CM /tear Morph says hi. So does TI2 voker and quite a few others. Icefrog actually does that a lot. Show nested quote +On August 30 2014 11:01 TheYango wrote:
I think it's retarded that people are asking for 6.82 already. Competetively I think 6.81 is the best patch we've ever seen. I would only be hoping for small tweaks, but I do think those tweaks are overdue. I also want to see LC, phoenix and Kaolin in CM asap. I feel like it's more a desire for 6.81c, and for me it's largely for the sake of pubs. Void is pretty much cancer now that people have worked out that he's a mega-hard carry that can kill anyone he wants to from 8 minutes in, and is bullshit to gank because RNG. Tinker/naga are also pretty annoying even if they don't have high winrates.
It's all Void. And a little Razor and Viper mixed in. Void simply makes the game unenjoyable, no matter which team he's on. I don't think anyone would really shed tears if he were to vanish from the game outright, except for those people who abuse the latest imbalanced hero to get higher MMR.
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I really liked him before he was OP. A hard carry that can properly contribute to teamfights is nice.
A hard carry who is the teamfight is not, however. He's also got way too much low-%, high-impact RNG, which is the worst kind.
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I actually like Void and played him a bit pre-being good. He needs being scaled back, though. And I just generally don't like tanky mids who build Mek and do stuff by standing in fights and not dying.
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On August 30 2014 11:41 Belisarius wrote:
I really liked him before he was OP. A hard carry that can properly contribute to teamfights is nice.
A hard carry who is the teamfight is not, however. He's also got way too much low-%, high-impact RNG, which is the worst kind.
There are tons of heroes like that, though. Spectre, Tiny, Luna, Weaver, Medusa, if we're limiting ourselves to extreme lategame heroes with very high ability to contribute to fights throughout the game.
Though Luna doesn't perfectly qualify for extreme lategame, I admit.
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If you don't like X hero in every game, counter pick.
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The thing is? There isn't exactly a counterpick to Void. Beating a Void is entirely based on whether your team manages to shut him down before he gets items, and there's a fuckton of confounding variables. It's not like picking something like TA against mid Puck, or AM against core WK.
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Then focus on shutting him down yourself. Pick heroes that can gank, or pick stuff like Doom, shadow shaman, etc.
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You act like I don't. Then they have a Viper and a Razor who win their lanes solo. Game is fun. Game is wonderful.
Really, there's a reason he's free MMR, and it's not because he's easy to "counter pick."
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He has 52% winrate according to dotabuff. Calling any hero "free MMR" is an excuse.
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Play veng, swap your team mate out of the chrono, watch as void runs out of the chrono because he is so fucking fast, then tries to run back into the chrono to kill you, chrono runs out, you stun his ass.
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what if you're chrono'd who's gonna save you then
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On August 30 2014 09:01 Seraphic wrote:
NOOOOO!
Please, Destiny isn't out yet. I have nothing to play now >.<
PS4 or Xbone?
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On August 30 2014 12:25 Skullflower wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2014 09:01 Seraphic wrote:
NOOOOO!
Please, Destiny isn't out yet. I have nothing to play now >.< PS4 or Xbone?
Probably both 
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On August 30 2014 12:22 andyrau wrote:
what if you're chrono'd who's gonna save you then
Draft tree, use living armor on the chrono target from anywhere on the map. Watch void do nothing with his early game ganks and never snowball.
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The only weakness of void is himself. If he lands a bad chrono he's wrecked.
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On August 30 2014 12:13 Kishin2 wrote:
He has 52% winrate according to dotabuff. Calling any hero "free MMR" is an excuse.
And Earth Spirit had a sub-50 winrate when he was the absolute most broken shit around.
So your point is that bad players have a tendency of dragging an imbalanced hero's winrate down?
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On August 30 2014 12:59 Acritter wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2014 12:13 Kishin2 wrote:
He has 52% winrate according to dotabuff. Calling any hero "free MMR" is an excuse. And Earth Spirit had a sub-50 winrate when he was the absolute most broken shit around. So your point is that bad players have a tendency of dragging an imbalanced hero's winrate down?
Well, I can't really judge if you're a "bad" player or not. The fact of the matter is that Void isn't Terrorizing games across the board and complaining that a hero is broken isn't productive.
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On August 30 2014 13:06 Kishin2 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2014 12:59 Acritter wrote:On August 30 2014 12:13 Kishin2 wrote:
He has 52% winrate according to dotabuff. Calling any hero "free MMR" is an excuse. And Earth Spirit had a sub-50 winrate when he was the absolute most broken shit around. So your point is that bad players have a tendency of dragging an imbalanced hero's winrate down? Well, I can't really judge if you're a "bad" player or not. The fact of the matter is that Void isn't Terrorizing games across the board and complaining that a hero is broken isn't productive.
People just don't like Void. Hence why he got the model rework in place of heroes that probably needed it more
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The only thing that's productive right now is Valve nerfing that shit, because it simply isn't fun to play with. Wisp and Batrider's broken days were a-okay in pubs. Hell, even Magnus was bearable. It's just an awful goddamn hero all around.
But tell me, really, what were you thinking when you said "counter pick?" Because that's just boggling my mind trying to figure that out. You might want to share your thoughts with competitive players, so that they can learn how to "counter pick" Void.
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please chill with the balance whining, do it in the qq thread if you must
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