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spudde123
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SilverStar
Sweden18511 Posts
On August 26 2014 06:16 cecek wrote: Well, StarLadder (V1lat by extension) replaced joinDOTA with BTS a couple seasons ago and Tobi was not happy about that. Seemed like he found out when the announcement was made. There's plenty of dirty laundry in the scene. You got some personal beef with Tobi, tough luck, but he's by no means the only bad guy and the rest saints, as you're making it look like. I remember the season when Joindota still was casting Starladder. Starladder had got shit on badly because Tobi was taking other gigs for Joindota and left most of the starladder season without any English cast. It was really annoying. The next season Starladder replaced Joindota with BTS, who covered all games just to mention. So yeah Tobi just being a cunt but nothing new since I heard what he did with his cocaster at TI2. | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
On August 26 2014 06:16 cecek wrote: Well, StarLadder (V1lat by extension) replaced joinDOTA with BTS a couple seasons ago and Tobi was not happy about that. Seemed like he found out when the announcement was made. There's plenty of dirty laundry in the scene. You got some personal beef with Tobi, tough luck, but he's by no means the only bad guy and the rest saints, as you're making it look like. Definitely not saying there aren't other shady folk in the scene. There totally are. The switch from jD to BTS was because v1lat and the other admins felt that jD had violated their contract (the letter or spirit, I don't know). jD was supposed to provide match coverage, meaning Tobi was, because he's a draw and that was a way to get more viewers to some of the less-obvious matches. Instead, jD farmed a lot of those matches out, especially to Sheever, and didn't really exert themselves promoting the broadcasts. Viewership was down from what was expected. Did it suck for jD? Yeah, but it was a business decision. Keeping v1lat out of ESL was personal. | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
On August 26 2014 06:24 Acritter wrote: Okay, why DO people buy Bloodstone on Krob? Can't you get sufficient bulk and regen just from Eul's/Drums into some combination of Scythe/Heart/Shiva's? Is the respawn timer and heal-on-death really that good? Or is it just a cost/effect ratio, with the combined bulk and regen making up for the other suboptimal bits and pieces? Why over complicate this so much lol. People are dumb. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 26 2014 06:24 Acritter wrote: Okay, why DO people buy Bloodstone on Krob? Can't you get sufficient bulk and regen just from Eul's/Drums into some combination of Scythe/Heart/Shiva's? Is the respawn timer and heal-on-death really that good? Or is it just a cost/effect ratio, with the combined bulk and regen making up for the other suboptimal bits and pieces? I ask myself this every day. I just go euls first and then go into Bloodstone if I feel its necessary(aka, if I am up 4 towers). The only thing it goes for you is make sure you never need to leave the map. But yeah, I don't get it. I would rather have a BKB, Shivas, Heart, anything. PS: I also don't think drums are worth it(I used to). If you are afraid of bust, just buy a bracer and see how that works for you. | ||
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
On August 26 2014 06:24 Acritter wrote: Okay, why DO people buy Bloodstone on Krob? Can't you get sufficient bulk and regen just from Eul's/Drums into some combination of Scythe/Heart/Shiva's? Is the respawn timer and heal-on-death really that good? Or is it just a cost/effect ratio, with the combined bulk and regen making up for the other suboptimal bits and pieces? i guess the best thing about it is the respawn timer. but you could argue that it doesnt matter that much since your ultimate should be on cd at that point i think the other items are a better option | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
On August 26 2014 06:27 Qbek wrote: Why over complicate this so much lol. People are dumb. Dude, qojqva just did it in a professional match. I'm not about to call him bad at this game. | ||
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Yoshi-
Germany10227 Posts
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
"K! KKK! KKK!" -Tobi Clearly he supports the KKK. + Show Spoiler + /s | ||
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
On August 26 2014 06:28 Acritter wrote: Dude, qojqva just did it in a professional match. I'm not about to call him bad at this game. his itembuild is so terrible | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
On August 26 2014 06:28 Acritter wrote: Dude, qojqva just did it in a professional match. I'm not about to call him bad at this game. Maybe he just likes to get bloodstone from time to time, I sometimes like to listen to hard trance, but most of the time i listen to metal | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
So you're saying he's just so much better at the game than Empire that he can get away with it? | ||
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
Also, upheaval is the real deal. | ||
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SilverStar
Sweden18511 Posts
On August 26 2014 06:28 Yoshi- wrote: It is also a business decision from toby not to work with people that don't work with him Not really a business decision. Just petty "revenge". Tobi was casting Defense and Defense cups instead of Starladder and outsourced stuff to Sheever and friends. Starladder would have provided a good coverage for ESL One. They actually have a studio and a lot of casters whereas Versuta is limited in his capabilites. You can't tell me that this was a business decision. At least it wasnt based on any logical thinking. Thread from 39 weeks ago: http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/dota-2-general/452651-starladder-viii-announced | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 26 2014 06:28 Acritter wrote: Dude, qojqva just did it in a professional match. I'm not about to call him bad at this game. He did that in TI and I thought it was weird then too. I don't often criticize pros on their item builds, but I think there are better items unless he has some crazy thing with the massive heal burst. | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
On August 26 2014 06:24 Acritter wrote: Okay, why DO people buy Bloodstone on Krob? Can't you get sufficient bulk and regen just from Eul's/Drums into some combination of Scythe/Heart/Shiva's? Is the respawn timer and heal-on-death really that good? Or is it just a cost/effect ratio, with the combined bulk and regen making up for the other suboptimal bits and pieces? Well, the cost from Eul's+Drums is pretty similar to that of Bloodstone. Some games the mobility and utility from E+D is better, other games you'd rather have the superior bulk, sustain and snowballiness from Bloodstone. Honestly I think a lot of it is just simplicity. Bloodstone is decent so we go Bloodstone. Just like how on Antimage, you get Battlefury because Antimage gets Battlefury. There are times to get other things, but many/most players, unless there's something spelling out that it's time to do something else, will just follow the standard builds. | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
On August 26 2014 06:32 LuckoftheIrish wrote: Well, the cost from Eul's+Drums is pretty similar to that of Bloodstone. Some games the mobility and utility from E+D is better, other games you'd rather have the superior bulk, sustain and snowballiness from Bloodstone. Honestly I think a lot of it is just simplicity. Bloodstone is decent so we go Bloodstone. Just like how on Antimage, you get Battlefury because Antimage gets Battlefury. There are times to get other things, but many/most players, unless there's something spelling out that it's time to do something else, will just follow the standard builds. Bloodstone after Eul's+Drums in this case. That's the build in question. Antimage and Battlefury is... a little different. Spectre Radiance might be a better comparison. | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
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