• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:20
CEST 12:20
KST 19:20
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple2BSL Season 2312Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon101Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10
StarCraft 2
General
How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser
Tourneys
2026 GSTL Grand Finals Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) 2026 GSTL Announcement
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 544 Double Trouble The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses Mutation # 542 The Ascended
Brood War
General
Bot on ladder SC4ALL II: Brood War Player Announcement 3/4 - soO [ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy BSL Season 23 PLAYzone Challenge - open offline tour in Prague
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro8 Day 2 [IPSL] IPSL is Back With Winter 26-27! PLAYzone Challenge - open offline tour in Prague [ASL22] Ro16 Group D
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation Nintendo Switch Thread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Diablo IV
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Artificial Intelligence Thread All you football fans (soccer)!
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Violent-Cooperative Play and…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 11726 users

General Discussion - Page 6225

Forum Index > Dota 2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 6223 6224 6225 6226 6227 6534 Next
IRC chatter should remain in IRC - http://webchat.quakenet.org/?channels=tl.dota2

Posts that relate to topics with their own thread, such as in News, Tournaments or Strategy should go in those threads.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
August 21 2014 21:40 GMT
#124481
On August 22 2014 06:35 Trustworthy-Tony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 06:32 Targe wrote:
tony this is like the second time uve qq'd here rofl

you have issues

this is true
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
August 21 2014 21:51 GMT
#124482
On August 22 2014 06:33 Atreides wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 06:31 Trustworthy-Tony wrote:
hahahahahahahahaha Tide buying Stout Shield Kunkka levelling up X marks the spot before he knows which spell he will be requiring and they wonder why I consider them unworthy allies and leave


The one thing that is for sure worse than people who don't know what they are doing is people who flame/rage/abandon ruining a game for 9 other people.


Definitely not for sure worse. There have been a number of games where someone abandoning is a fucking blessing because it allows me to leave that shithole of a game with no repercussions.
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
August 21 2014 21:51 GMT
#124483
If lovin' you is wrong I don't wanna be right.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
Atreides
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2393 Posts
August 21 2014 21:54 GMT
#124484
On August 22 2014 06:51 ZasZ. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 06:33 Atreides wrote:
On August 22 2014 06:31 Trustworthy-Tony wrote:
hahahahahahahahaha Tide buying Stout Shield Kunkka levelling up X marks the spot before he knows which spell he will be requiring and they wonder why I consider them unworthy allies and leave


The one thing that is for sure worse than people who don't know what they are doing is people who flame/rage/abandon ruining a game for 9 other people.


Definitely not for sure worse. There have been a number of games where someone abandoning is a fucking blessing because it allows me to leave that shithole of a game with no repercussions.


this can be true 20 min in, but not over starting items/builds imo
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
August 21 2014 21:56 GMT
#124485
On August 22 2014 06:31 Trustworthy-Tony wrote:
hahahahahahahahaha Tide buying Stout Shield Kunkka levelling up X marks the spot before he knows which spell he will be requiring and they wonder why I consider them unworthy allies and leave

Stout tide is fine.

Leveling X is fine / standard.
ヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノDELETE ICEFROGヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
August 21 2014 21:58 GMT
#124486
Kunkka is incredibly flexible as a hero
1-2-2-1 is completely viable and so is 2-3-0-1 or 1-1-3-1 etc
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 21 2014 21:59 GMT
#124487
1-1-3-1 is preeeeeeetty damn sketchy imo
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-21 22:00:55
August 21 2014 22:00 GMT
#124488
it's basically just the build to land boat 100% of the time
I prefer 1-2-2-1 if i have to go early X, but the 3 in X build has its merits. There are certain heroes that can escape if it's only level 2 X, assuming you initiate with x that is.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 21 2014 22:00 GMT
#124489
if ur 3 in x ur 2 in torrent imo since at that point ur all in on ur combo
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-21 22:03:05
August 21 2014 22:01 GMT
#124490
On August 22 2014 06:59 Sn0_Man wrote:
1-1-3-1 is preeeeeeetty damn sketchy imo

It's actually pretty common.

Guaranteed boats. You should level tidebringer still, as the damage isn't too different, and you need it for farming.

UNLES YOU ARE SUPPORT KUNKKA
ヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノDELETE ICEFROGヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 21 2014 22:01 GMT
#124491
I'm aware of the value of the 3rd x point.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-21 22:03:14
August 21 2014 22:01 GMT
#124492
The utility of atleast 1 point in tidebringer is hard to ignore, being able to attack from pseudo-range is often what you need to get the kill.
Leaving torrent at 1 for a while isn't always wrong.

Kunkka is very flexible with his build, fun hero to play in pubs.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 21 2014 22:04 GMT
#124493
Also there's no way the return subability should cost mana IceFraud pls
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
August 21 2014 22:05 GMT
#124494
On August 22 2014 07:04 Sn0_Man wrote:
Also there's no way the return subability should cost mana IceFraud pls

Fucking agreed.

Stupid as hell.
ヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノDELETE ICEFROGヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(⌐■_■)ノヽ(
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-21 22:08:05
August 21 2014 22:07 GMT
#124495
On August 22 2014 07:04 Sn0_Man wrote:
Also there's no way the return subability should cost mana IceFraud pls

I forget that all the time lategame after it's level 4 and i need to manually activate it lmfao.
Like i'm playing with friends and i fire off my combo and i'm like "Gogo we got him" and then i can't return him because the combo + original X took all my mana because i was low on mana already.

Pls remove mana cost icefraud
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-21 22:14:06
August 21 2014 22:11 GMT
#124496
if my time is being wasted and i see no point in playing ill happily abandon
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-21 22:13:01
August 21 2014 22:12 GMT
#124497
On August 22 2014 07:01 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 06:59 Sn0_Man wrote:
1-1-3-1 is preeeeeeetty damn sketchy imo

It's actually pretty common.

Guaranteed boats. You should level tidebringer still, as the damage isn't too different, and you need it for farming.

UNLES YOU ARE SUPPORT KUNKKA

Don't you get guaranteed boat off of guaranteed Torrent?

Or is the extra range that important?
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-21 22:14:57
August 21 2014 22:14 GMT
#124498
It's not the range, if you x into torrent there's a small window of like 0.5~ second where some heroes can escape with either blinks, forcestaff, shukuchi or whatever. (I can't remember the exact time heroes have to escape and i'm too lazy to check)
Typically 2 points in x should do the trick against most heroes though, it's situational.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
August 21 2014 22:15 GMT
#124499
On August 22 2014 07:14 Unleashing wrote:
It's not the range, if you x into torrent there's a small window of like 0.5~ second where some heroes can escape with either blinks, forcestaff, shukuchi or whatever.
Typically 2 points in x should do the trick against most heroes though, it's situational.

Oh, I thought we were just talking about average-nondescript-hero level of guaranteed instead of getting-hit-by-Void-in-Chrono level of guaranteed. My bad, thanks for clarifying.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
August 21 2014 22:15 GMT
#124500
On August 22 2014 07:12 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 07:01 Comeh wrote:
On August 22 2014 06:59 Sn0_Man wrote:
1-1-3-1 is preeeeeeetty damn sketchy imo

It's actually pretty common.

Guaranteed boats. You should level tidebringer still, as the damage isn't too different, and you need it for farming.

UNLES YOU ARE SUPPORT KUNKKA

Don't you get guaranteed boat off of guaranteed Torrent?

Or is the extra range that important?

I think the range is important. You have to like walk backwards and then cast boat, but by the time you do that they can dodge it or something.

I haven't played a lot of kunkka though so idk.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
Prev 1 6223 6224 6225 6226 6227 6534 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
09:00
Korean StarCraft League #91
CranKy Ducklings44
CranKy Ducklings SOOP9
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech135
Zoun (SOOP) 10
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 2560
Larva 2014
Bisu 1585
Zeus 187
ggaemo 127
Dewaltoss 85
910 60
ToSsGirL 53
Last 45
sorry 43
Dota 2
XaKoH 297
Other Games
gofns26671
XBOCT350
crisheroes223
Lowko202
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream17362
StarCraft: Brood War
Afreeca ASL 394
lovetv 18
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH210
• mYiSmile15
• Letter143
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1820
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Invitational
40m
The PiG Daily
11h 40m
ByuN vs Rogue
herO vs SHIN
Serral vs TBD
Clem vs TBD
CranKy Ducklings
23h 40m
AI Arena Tournament
1d 6h
BSL: Ladder Tournament
1d 8h
GSL
1d 21h
Yamato Cup
2 days
BSL Open Qualifier
2 days
BSL Open Qualifier
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Soma vs Jaedong
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Leta vs Soulkey
PiGosaur Cup
4 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Super Anchor Qualifying S3
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Calamity Invitational
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Custodian Cup
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.