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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
August 21 2014 21:40 GMT
#124481
On August 22 2014 06:35 Trustworthy-Tony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 06:32 Targe wrote:
tony this is like the second time uve qq'd here rofl

you have issues

this is true
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
August 21 2014 21:51 GMT
#124482
On August 22 2014 06:33 Atreides wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 06:31 Trustworthy-Tony wrote:
hahahahahahahahaha Tide buying Stout Shield Kunkka levelling up X marks the spot before he knows which spell he will be requiring and they wonder why I consider them unworthy allies and leave


The one thing that is for sure worse than people who don't know what they are doing is people who flame/rage/abandon ruining a game for 9 other people.


Definitely not for sure worse. There have been a number of games where someone abandoning is a fucking blessing because it allows me to leave that shithole of a game with no repercussions.
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
August 21 2014 21:51 GMT
#124483
If lovin' you is wrong I don't wanna be right.
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Atreides
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2393 Posts
August 21 2014 21:54 GMT
#124484
On August 22 2014 06:51 ZasZ. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 06:33 Atreides wrote:
On August 22 2014 06:31 Trustworthy-Tony wrote:
hahahahahahahahaha Tide buying Stout Shield Kunkka levelling up X marks the spot before he knows which spell he will be requiring and they wonder why I consider them unworthy allies and leave


The one thing that is for sure worse than people who don't know what they are doing is people who flame/rage/abandon ruining a game for 9 other people.


Definitely not for sure worse. There have been a number of games where someone abandoning is a fucking blessing because it allows me to leave that shithole of a game with no repercussions.


this can be true 20 min in, but not over starting items/builds imo
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
August 21 2014 21:56 GMT
#124485
On August 22 2014 06:31 Trustworthy-Tony wrote:
hahahahahahahahaha Tide buying Stout Shield Kunkka levelling up X marks the spot before he knows which spell he will be requiring and they wonder why I consider them unworthy allies and leave

Stout tide is fine.

Leveling X is fine / standard.
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
August 21 2014 21:58 GMT
#124486
Kunkka is incredibly flexible as a hero
1-2-2-1 is completely viable and so is 2-3-0-1 or 1-1-3-1 etc
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 21 2014 21:59 GMT
#124487
1-1-3-1 is preeeeeeetty damn sketchy imo
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-21 22:00:55
August 21 2014 22:00 GMT
#124488
it's basically just the build to land boat 100% of the time
I prefer 1-2-2-1 if i have to go early X, but the 3 in X build has its merits. There are certain heroes that can escape if it's only level 2 X, assuming you initiate with x that is.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 21 2014 22:00 GMT
#124489
if ur 3 in x ur 2 in torrent imo since at that point ur all in on ur combo
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-21 22:03:05
August 21 2014 22:01 GMT
#124490
On August 22 2014 06:59 Sn0_Man wrote:
1-1-3-1 is preeeeeeetty damn sketchy imo

It's actually pretty common.

Guaranteed boats. You should level tidebringer still, as the damage isn't too different, and you need it for farming.

UNLES YOU ARE SUPPORT KUNKKA
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 21 2014 22:01 GMT
#124491
I'm aware of the value of the 3rd x point.
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-21 22:03:14
August 21 2014 22:01 GMT
#124492
The utility of atleast 1 point in tidebringer is hard to ignore, being able to attack from pseudo-range is often what you need to get the kill.
Leaving torrent at 1 for a while isn't always wrong.

Kunkka is very flexible with his build, fun hero to play in pubs.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 21 2014 22:04 GMT
#124493
Also there's no way the return subability should cost mana IceFraud pls
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
August 21 2014 22:05 GMT
#124494
On August 22 2014 07:04 Sn0_Man wrote:
Also there's no way the return subability should cost mana IceFraud pls

Fucking agreed.

Stupid as hell.
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-21 22:08:05
August 21 2014 22:07 GMT
#124495
On August 22 2014 07:04 Sn0_Man wrote:
Also there's no way the return subability should cost mana IceFraud pls

I forget that all the time lategame after it's level 4 and i need to manually activate it lmfao.
Like i'm playing with friends and i fire off my combo and i'm like "Gogo we got him" and then i can't return him because the combo + original X took all my mana because i was low on mana already.

Pls remove mana cost icefraud
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-21 22:14:06
August 21 2014 22:11 GMT
#124496
if my time is being wasted and i see no point in playing ill happily abandon
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-21 22:13:01
August 21 2014 22:12 GMT
#124497
On August 22 2014 07:01 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 06:59 Sn0_Man wrote:
1-1-3-1 is preeeeeeetty damn sketchy imo

It's actually pretty common.

Guaranteed boats. You should level tidebringer still, as the damage isn't too different, and you need it for farming.

UNLES YOU ARE SUPPORT KUNKKA

Don't you get guaranteed boat off of guaranteed Torrent?

Or is the extra range that important?
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-21 22:14:57
August 21 2014 22:14 GMT
#124498
It's not the range, if you x into torrent there's a small window of like 0.5~ second where some heroes can escape with either blinks, forcestaff, shukuchi or whatever. (I can't remember the exact time heroes have to escape and i'm too lazy to check)
Typically 2 points in x should do the trick against most heroes though, it's situational.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
August 21 2014 22:15 GMT
#124499
On August 22 2014 07:14 Unleashing wrote:
It's not the range, if you x into torrent there's a small window of like 0.5~ second where some heroes can escape with either blinks, forcestaff, shukuchi or whatever.
Typically 2 points in x should do the trick against most heroes though, it's situational.

Oh, I thought we were just talking about average-nondescript-hero level of guaranteed instead of getting-hit-by-Void-in-Chrono level of guaranteed. My bad, thanks for clarifying.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
August 21 2014 22:15 GMT
#124500
On August 22 2014 07:12 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 07:01 Comeh wrote:
On August 22 2014 06:59 Sn0_Man wrote:
1-1-3-1 is preeeeeeetty damn sketchy imo

It's actually pretty common.

Guaranteed boats. You should level tidebringer still, as the damage isn't too different, and you need it for farming.

UNLES YOU ARE SUPPORT KUNKKA

Don't you get guaranteed boat off of guaranteed Torrent?

Or is the extra range that important?

I think the range is important. You have to like walk backwards and then cast boat, but by the time you do that they can dodge it or something.

I haven't played a lot of kunkka though so idk.
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