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eniGzor
Profile Joined June 2012
Australia95 Posts
August 02 2014 14:22 GMT
#121181
On August 02 2014 23:08 Torte de Lini wrote:
How hard is it to use SFM?


Valve have a basic tutorial on youtube - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2B46DEB4157E67C4
rudimentalfeelthelov
Profile Joined December 2013
Finland268 Posts
August 02 2014 14:30 GMT
#121182
On August 01 2014 07:09 rudimentalfeelthelov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2014 06:39 SpiZe wrote:
On August 01 2014 06:35 rudimentalfeelthelov wrote:
Anyone else with the similar game experience as me where solo queuing if I have to play support I win about 50% of the games, but if I can play carry or mid I win roughly 75%? :'(


You're a bad support ?


I agree I'm a terrible support, but I simply have to pick it because no one else would and I'm not even that bad 4.8k mmr and I'm pretty sure if I remember correctly back when I started playing at 3.5k people used to pick more supports than in my current games. I guess what I'm trying to say is that 4.5k+ is mmr hell, 3.5k is mmr heaven. You can't get enough mmr to get to mmr heaven, you can only drop enough mmr to get there.



First game after I wrote this our pudge waits for creep to spawn at the incorrect block spot. When creeps spawn instead of blocking them and going to the lane he runs to the fountain, waits to get 650 gold, buys bottle and walks to the lane, missing 2 full creep waves. He soon starts feeding. After the game we see his mmr, it's 5.2k. It's like something is trying to prove my point that higher you go in deeper mmr hell you are.
Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9380 Posts
August 02 2014 14:57 GMT
#121183
On August 02 2014 23:08 Torte de Lini wrote:
How hard is it to use SFM?


Just get jitte it's easy.
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13080 Posts
August 02 2014 15:38 GMT
#121184
Icex3 having ++200k viewers :O
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
August 02 2014 15:55 GMT
#121185
dota 2 is so small in the west
High Risk Low Reward
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42410 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-02 16:03:30
August 02 2014 16:02 GMT
#121186
That was fast!

"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
August 02 2014 16:07 GMT
#121187
On August 03 2014 01:02 Grettin wrote:
That was fast!

https://twitter.com/Aui_2000/status/495295118124273664


that is the way it should be... kinda sad that this is considered unusual.
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
August 02 2014 16:08 GMT
#121188
Someone explain to me the point of phase boots on Ember. It's 900 gold for a small boost of mobility (that Ember doesn't really need) and +24 damage, which doesn't convert that well into SoF. That's 900 gold for something that slightly boosts SoF, at a point where SoF is Ember's worst spell (early-midgame) for damage.
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
August 02 2014 16:10 GMT
#121189
Well, they don't need to wait for any sponsor, so ofc they can give the money out pretty much instantly
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42410 Posts
August 02 2014 16:13 GMT
#121190
On August 03 2014 01:10 Yoshi- wrote:
Well, they don't need to wait for any sponsor, so ofc they can give the money out pretty much instantly


They didn't pay no where near as quickly last year afair.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13080 Posts
August 02 2014 16:21 GMT
#121191


Holy **** !
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
August 02 2014 16:41 GMT
#121192
Damn. That's pretty well done.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
August 02 2014 16:48 GMT
#121193
On August 03 2014 01:08 hooahah wrote:
Someone explain to me the point of phase boots on Ember. It's 900 gold for a small boost of mobility (that Ember doesn't really need) and +24 damage, which doesn't convert that well into SoF. That's 900 gold for something that slightly boosts SoF, at a point where SoF is Ember's worst spell (early-midgame) for damage.


How do you figure that the damage doesn't convert well into SoF? The ability to shove two of the most cost efficient damage items in the game into an item that has no alternative upgrade path is pretty good.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
makmeatt
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
2024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-02 17:19:41
August 02 2014 17:19 GMT
#121194
On August 03 2014 01:21 SkelA wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIHdTWViehg

Holy **** !

That was a flashy result recap, at most. Calling it a TI4 movie just doesn't bode well.
"Silver Edge can't break my hope" - Kryptt 2016 || "Chrono is not a debuff, you just get rekt" - Guru 2016
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 02 2014 18:53 GMT
#121195


Dat pudge, dat Antimage.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
August 02 2014 19:04 GMT
#121196
On August 03 2014 01:48 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2014 01:08 hooahah wrote:
Someone explain to me the point of phase boots on Ember. It's 900 gold for a small boost of mobility (that Ember doesn't really need) and +24 damage, which doesn't convert that well into SoF. That's 900 gold for something that slightly boosts SoF, at a point where SoF is Ember's worst spell (early-midgame) for damage.


How do you figure that the damage doesn't convert well into SoF? The ability to shove two of the most cost efficient damage items in the game into an item that has no alternative upgrade path is pretty good.


because Phase' damage is negligble in the lategame and SoF only starts doing major damage lategame. Those 900 gold are much better being spent on drums/bfury/skadi/bots/vanguard (if you're rtz) IMO.

But maybe I'm just biased against the Phase/BFury build.
Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9380 Posts
August 02 2014 19:10 GMT
#121197
On August 03 2014 04:04 hooahah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2014 01:48 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On August 03 2014 01:08 hooahah wrote:
Someone explain to me the point of phase boots on Ember. It's 900 gold for a small boost of mobility (that Ember doesn't really need) and +24 damage, which doesn't convert that well into SoF. That's 900 gold for something that slightly boosts SoF, at a point where SoF is Ember's worst spell (early-midgame) for damage.


How do you figure that the damage doesn't convert well into SoF? The ability to shove two of the most cost efficient damage items in the game into an item that has no alternative upgrade path is pretty good.


because Phase' damage is negligble in the lategame and SoF only starts doing major damage lategame. Those 900 gold are much better being spent on drums/bfury/skadi/bots/vanguard (if you're rtz) IMO.

But maybe I'm just biased against the Phase/BFury build.


It's also nice because it gives you that extra chasing ability when you don't have sof to get a good chain off. So unless you're going to just not upgrade your boots until bots they're the best.
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3339 Posts
August 02 2014 19:11 GMT
#121198
On August 03 2014 01:48 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2014 01:08 hooahah wrote:
Someone explain to me the point of phase boots on Ember. It's 900 gold for a small boost of mobility (that Ember doesn't really need) and +24 damage, which doesn't convert that well into SoF. That's 900 gold for something that slightly boosts SoF, at a point where SoF is Ember's worst spell (early-midgame) for damage.


How do you figure that the damage doesn't convert well into SoF? The ability to shove two of the most cost efficient damage items in the game into an item that has no alternative upgrade path is pretty good.

Also I think that the movement speed is good for remnants? Because they move at 2x his movement speed so phase helps?
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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
August 02 2014 19:20 GMT
#121199
On August 03 2014 04:04 hooahah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2014 01:48 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On August 03 2014 01:08 hooahah wrote:
Someone explain to me the point of phase boots on Ember. It's 900 gold for a small boost of mobility (that Ember doesn't really need) and +24 damage, which doesn't convert that well into SoF. That's 900 gold for something that slightly boosts SoF, at a point where SoF is Ember's worst spell (early-midgame) for damage.


How do you figure that the damage doesn't convert well into SoF? The ability to shove two of the most cost efficient damage items in the game into an item that has no alternative upgrade path is pretty good.


because Phase' damage is negligble in the lategame and SoF only starts doing major damage lategame. Those 900 gold are much better being spent on drums/bfury/skadi/bots/vanguard (if you're rtz) IMO.

But maybe I'm just biased against the Phase/BFury build.

You clearly underestimate the damage and mobility provided by phase boots early game.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
August 02 2014 19:34 GMT
#121200
On August 03 2014 04:04 hooahah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2014 01:48 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On August 03 2014 01:08 hooahah wrote:
Someone explain to me the point of phase boots on Ember. It's 900 gold for a small boost of mobility (that Ember doesn't really need) and +24 damage, which doesn't convert that well into SoF. That's 900 gold for something that slightly boosts SoF, at a point where SoF is Ember's worst spell (early-midgame) for damage.


How do you figure that the damage doesn't convert well into SoF? The ability to shove two of the most cost efficient damage items in the game into an item that has no alternative upgrade path is pretty good.


because Phase' damage is negligble in the lategame and SoF only starts doing major damage lategame. Those 900 gold are much better being spent on drums/bfury/skadi/bots/vanguard (if you're rtz) IMO.

But maybe I'm just biased against the Phase/BFury build.


There isn't a more cost efficient damage item besides rapier. The alternative is having brown boots and spending your money less efficiently on another damage item.

Damage is cumulative. All that matters is how much gold I spent on X damage and that I have enough slots to carry all the items I bought. You're going to have boots so you might as well upgrade them.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
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