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Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-24 18:53:10
June 24 2014 18:52 GMT
#115021
On June 25 2014 03:31 Comeh wrote:
I mean, I find it difficult to call a sport watched by like a bazillion people a "poor spectator sport".

Clearly it has something going for it.

Now american football? Great way to watch commercials, awful for watching sport.


I think the spectating is so widespread because people have such national pride, and being part of a big group of fans is probably pretty fun. Its not because they enjoy the action on the field. I can't imagine all those dudes sprinting back and forth for an hour or whatever is all that enthralling. My gf loves it and made me watch a game. I enjoyed watching the USA play, but that kind of cements my point in my own mind at least.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
June 24 2014 19:05 GMT
#115022
On June 25 2014 03:52 Ayaz2810 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 03:31 Comeh wrote:
I mean, I find it difficult to call a sport watched by like a bazillion people a "poor spectator sport".

Clearly it has something going for it.

Now american football? Great way to watch commercials, awful for watching sport.


I think the spectating is so widespread because people have such national pride, and being part of a big group of fans is probably pretty fun. Its not because they enjoy the action on the field. I can't imagine all those dudes sprinting back and forth for an hour or whatever is all that enthralling. My gf loves it and made me watch a game. I enjoyed watching the USA play, but that kind of cements my point in my own mind at least.

What about club play? Or whatever they call that (I AM GAMBURGER).
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-24 19:08:27
June 24 2014 19:07 GMT
#115023
On June 25 2014 03:52 Ayaz2810 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 03:31 Comeh wrote:
I mean, I find it difficult to call a sport watched by like a bazillion people a "poor spectator sport".

Clearly it has something going for it.

Now american football? Great way to watch commercials, awful for watching sport.


I think the spectating is so widespread because people have such national pride, and being part of a big group of fans is probably pretty fun. Its not because they enjoy the action on the field. I can't imagine all those dudes sprinting back and forth for an hour or whatever is all that enthralling. My gf loves it and made me watch a game. I enjoyed watching the USA play, but that kind of cements my point in my own mind at least.


http://gfycat.com/AlarmedCostlyHound

Shit like that, which I see every so often, furthers any remote interest I had for the game. I like American Football and can watch whenever my father calls me up to chat about it; but I can't sit down and watch any soccer/football without being bored out of my mind.

At least with Hockey, they can get pretty violent.

I think I'm just not a sports-watcher, but Soccer/Football is incredibly long and dull. IT Crowd does a pretty good episode on it.

https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
June 24 2014 19:10 GMT
#115024
that episode is legit
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Veles
Profile Joined May 2011
United States3280 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-24 19:10:59
June 24 2014 19:10 GMT
#115025
wrong thread again fuck having this open

football is cool tho US opinions dont count
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
June 24 2014 19:19 GMT
#115026
It's amazing how NA doto has gone from a total joke to a real powerhouse thanks to EG alone.

I mean, EG, of all teams.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
June 24 2014 19:21 GMT
#115027
Sweden doto op tho, zai was ownage that game.
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Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
June 24 2014 19:24 GMT
#115028
Yeah, NA really has no decent support players/captains.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-24 19:25:51
June 24 2014 19:24 GMT
#115029
On June 25 2014 04:24 Kishin2 wrote:
Yeah, NA really has no decent support players/captains.

are we being facetious or? nvm saw ur other post. Yeah ppd's ownage.
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Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
June 24 2014 19:25 GMT
#115030
On June 25 2014 04:24 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2014 04:24 Kishin2 wrote:
Yeah, NA really has no decent support players/captains.

are we being facetious or?

Literally none except ppd.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
June 24 2014 19:27 GMT
#115031
Aui's a good support player. Also apparently he did some drafting recently? I know he doesn't in-game captain much though.
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Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
June 24 2014 19:33 GMT
#115032
I did forget about Aui when I said that. He's pretty good too, although priority wise, he gets above average farm for a support. Every game 4/5 EG heroes have solid net worth while PPD is there in the bottom. It's amazing how he rarely he feeds.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-24 19:35:32
June 24 2014 19:35 GMT
#115033
Have u seen wat heroes he plays tho? lol

E: not flaming at all just saying like how do you feed with tree, jakiro, etc.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
June 24 2014 19:35 GMT
#115034
Zai, 1437 (well, canada), Aui (well, he knows how to farm on supports, also canada), ppd is average IMO...

That's it pretty much. I guess Demon on support has been decent.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
June 24 2014 19:35 GMT
#115035
Zai is swedish tho
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
June 24 2014 19:37 GMT
#115036
On June 25 2014 04:35 Sn0_Man wrote:
Zai is swedish tho

Oh, I honestly never knew that. I guess never mind about him then.

Why is he on team american then?
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r_con
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States824 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-24 19:37:59
June 24 2014 19:37 GMT
#115037
aui is best support whole world guys.... or maybe just his visage
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-24 19:38:39
June 24 2014 19:37 GMT
#115038
They needed good players

He also played HoN with PPD (transitioned from core to support at the same time he transitioned to dota)
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Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
June 24 2014 19:51 GMT
#115039
On June 25 2014 04:35 Comeh wrote:
Zai, 1437 (well, canada), Aui (well, he knows how to farm on supports, also canada), ppd is average IMO...

That's it pretty much. I guess Demon on support has been decent.


Fluff? Not like he was kicked by TL for his play and he managed to take IXmike and 3 nobodies to 1 series from Seattle.

But yeah, the lack of supports in NA is really what is hurting the scene.
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Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
June 24 2014 19:53 GMT
#115040
Do you guys think for improving play, you should stick to one role and hammer away at it? Or is it better to try to become well rounded? You got me thinking about it when you mentioned Zai. I tend to just play whatever... Slark, WD. Meepo, lich, aa, ta, mirana and a few others. I wonder if I'm handicapping myself by doing that....
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