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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
June 03 2014 00:49 GMT
#111321
Literally all he needs is some kind of slow. Just give level 4 wolves or Shapeshift a SnY-style slow, and he becomes a reasonably good teamfighter. But as he is right now, all he can do is kill buildings and Roshan.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
June 03 2014 00:52 GMT
#111322
Shape shift really does need something other than a cool down reduction for each level tbh...
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-03 00:59:39
June 03 2014 00:59 GMT
#111323
On June 03 2014 09:46 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2014 09:33 Acritter wrote:
She's never going to be more interesting than Viper, which is another trash hero I despise.

Lycan needs some kind of change so that he's more of a hunter than a tower demolisher. I mean, sure it's a niche, but it completely takes away from the concept of wolf micro if the only thing you want to do with them is run them at buildings.


Bring back global feral impulse.

All the recent nerfs are to his team fight capabilities which is sort of forcing him into ratting more which is fun for objective gamers like me but kinda sucks in the long haul.

The current Howl nerf seems more geared at the usage of Howl on Lycan in lane where a safe lane Lycan just uses Howl on CD for the other lanes to win. I don't think it's geared at his teamfighting at all.
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HighTimeDotA
Profile Joined May 2014
Canada1412 Posts
June 03 2014 00:59 GMT
#111324
On June 03 2014 09:49 Acritter wrote:
Literally all he needs is some kind of slow. Just give level 4 wolves or Shapeshift a SnY-style slow, and he becomes a reasonably good teamfighter. But as he is right now, all he can do is kill buildings and Roshan.


That change would literally break lycan in pubs. 2 lvl4 wolves would singlehandly kill most supports.

lycan can fight just fine atm, look at luo.
rtz is like the Bieber of dota, true Canadian treasure.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-03 01:02:23
June 03 2014 01:01 GMT
#111325
On June 03 2014 09:59 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2014 09:46 Drazerk wrote:
On June 03 2014 09:33 Acritter wrote:
She's never going to be more interesting than Viper, which is another trash hero I despise.

Lycan needs some kind of change so that he's more of a hunter than a tower demolisher. I mean, sure it's a niche, but it completely takes away from the concept of wolf micro if the only thing you want to do with them is run them at buildings.


Bring back global feral impulse.

All the recent nerfs are to his team fight capabilities which is sort of forcing him into ratting more which is fun for objective gamers like me but kinda sucks in the long haul.

The current Howl nerf seems more geared at the usage of Howl on Lycan in lane where a safe lane Lycan just uses Howl on CD for the other lanes to win. I don't think it's geared at his teamfighting at all.

It was more the duration nerf along with the ulti HP nerf I was annoyed at rather than the damage but yeah I understand your point (still don't understand why its global to be honest)
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
June 03 2014 01:13 GMT
#111326
how the hell could anyone argue lycans fine
heros broken as fuck
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Ru ba
Profile Joined February 2014
Serbia1812 Posts
June 03 2014 01:14 GMT
#111327
according to you every hero is broken as fuck
u gotta farm
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
June 03 2014 01:15 GMT
#111328
no only the broken ones
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-03 01:34:23
June 03 2014 01:34 GMT
#111329
Fantasy League hates me.

2 Weeks in, 1200 points against. I don't even understand.

Worst part is I actually have the most points for as well, at 900. And still 0-2.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
June 03 2014 01:47 GMT
#111330
On June 03 2014 10:01 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2014 09:59 TheYango wrote:
On June 03 2014 09:46 Drazerk wrote:
On June 03 2014 09:33 Acritter wrote:
She's never going to be more interesting than Viper, which is another trash hero I despise.

Lycan needs some kind of change so that he's more of a hunter than a tower demolisher. I mean, sure it's a niche, but it completely takes away from the concept of wolf micro if the only thing you want to do with them is run them at buildings.


Bring back global feral impulse.

All the recent nerfs are to his team fight capabilities which is sort of forcing him into ratting more which is fun for objective gamers like me but kinda sucks in the long haul.

The current Howl nerf seems more geared at the usage of Howl on Lycan in lane where a safe lane Lycan just uses Howl on CD for the other lanes to win. I don't think it's geared at his teamfighting at all.

It was more the duration nerf along with the ulti HP nerf I was annoyed at rather than the damage but yeah I understand your point (still don't understand why its global to be honest)

Because when it wasn't global it was utter trash.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
June 03 2014 02:16 GMT
#111331
I'm pretty sad that fear can't play in ti4.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
June 03 2014 02:17 GMT
#111332
On June 03 2014 10:14 Ru ba wrote:
according to you every hero is broken as fuck


drinking game every time him and shaella complain about op champ
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
June 03 2014 02:43 GMT
#111333
On June 03 2014 11:17 FinestHour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2014 10:14 Ru ba wrote:
according to you every hero is broken as fuck


drinking game every time him and shaella complain about op champ


RIP Liquid Dota, 2014-2014.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
June 03 2014 02:45 GMT
#111334
On June 03 2014 11:17 FinestHour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2014 10:14 Ru ba wrote:
according to you every hero is broken as fuck


drinking game every time him and shaella complain about op champ

whoa hey thats not cool man

they're heroes man.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
June 03 2014 02:49 GMT
#111335
Man I love witch Doctor.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
June 03 2014 03:06 GMT
#111336
I'm working on my omi knight. The best is playing against a riki that is dumb by the fact that he loses half his health every time I heal myself.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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TeamVisionDota
Profile Joined June 2014
United States8 Posts
June 03 2014 03:28 GMT
#111337
Anyone else - people who play on servers that don't speak the native tongue are ruining ranked games? Instead of having "language preference" it'd be nice to have an IP setting. If they are not in the U.S. I don't want to play with them. Language barrier is almost guaranteed GG you lose. Lesser chance they don't speak English if the IP is 100% in the states. It's ruining the experience to where I don't want to play. A guaranteed 2-3 players do not speak English on the U.S. server per game. It's a joke. I don't care what language you speak - but play on your own server.

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To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift - Steve Prefontaine
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
June 03 2014 03:38 GMT
#111338
On June 03 2014 12:28 TeamVisionDota wrote:
Anyone else - people who play on servers that don't speak the native tongue are ruining ranked games? Instead of having "language preference" it'd be nice to have an IP setting. If they are not in the U.S. I don't want to play with them. Language barrier is almost guaranteed GG you lose. Lesser chance they don't speak English if the IP is 100% in the states. It's ruining the experience to where I don't want to play. A guaranteed 2-3 players do not speak English on the U.S. server per game. It's a joke. I don't care what language you speak - but play on your own server.


.... This has so many levels of dumb I honestly don't know even where to begin.

GL with that thought process though.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
June 03 2014 03:40 GMT
#111339
On June 03 2014 12:28 TeamVisionDota wrote:
Anyone else - people who play on servers that don't speak the native tongue are ruining ranked games? Instead of having "language preference" it'd be nice to have an IP setting. If they are not in the U.S. I don't want to play with them. Language barrier is almost guaranteed GG you lose. Lesser chance they don't speak English if the IP is 100% in the states. It's ruining the experience to where I don't want to play. A guaranteed 2-3 players do not speak English on the U.S. server per game. It's a joke. I don't care what language you speak - but play on your own server.

QQ Thread. Though for what it's worth, I wish the language settings were enforceable x.x
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
June 03 2014 04:00 GMT
#111340
wc3 dota
banlist
2006
go there
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