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Posts that relate to topics with their own thread, such as in News, Tournaments or Strategy should go in those threads.
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
May 11 2012 17:42 GMT
#10641
watching dota2 on cocaine ? souds fun to me :D
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
May 11 2012 17:42 GMT
#10642
actually if you look at the layout of the international page, a 4x4 grid with DK and Na'Vi positioned like that pretty much screams EU+NA vs China + SEA with 8 teams on each side (AL being on the right)
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
May 11 2012 17:47 GMT
#10643
On May 12 2012 02:39 Erasme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 22:06 Yoshi- wrote:
Hmm only 3 days international?
If they use the same format this would mean like 24/h dota :D

time to stock coke/coffee

Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 01:49 dragonborn wrote:
http://www.quanticgaming.com/articles/News/Dota-2/117/Quantic-Gaming-Announces-New-DOTA-2-Team/

Quantic signs ex-Gosu, nice


Does this mean exQuantic are now officially sponsorless ?

They were officially sponsorless already?
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
May 11 2012 18:40 GMT
#10644
On May 11 2012 23:53 dragonborn wrote:
my predictions v2 for the international invites

1.DK - confirmed
2.EHOME - strong chinese team
3.LGD - strong chinese team with spoon style :D
4.TonGfu or iG(according to theyango)
5.Zenith - Best Singaporean team
6.Orange - Solid Malaysian team
7.aL - Best Australian team
8.MUFC - Solid Malaysian team
9.Mineski - Best Philipness team/Philip esports
10.coL/xGosu/EG/itsGoSu - 2x American team(looking at you NB :D)
11.coL/xGosu/EG/itsGoSu - 2x American team
12.NaVi - confirmed
13.CLG #2 EU and stable team
14.#best dreamhack performer
15.#best the defense 2 performer
16.#best overall performer in last 3 months

then valve got non-invited teams like:

ex-Quantic
mousesports
M5
Virtus.Pro
Darer
mTw
Infused
DTS
NEXT.KZ
Keita
fnaticRC

expecting VP for the best overall performer in last 3 months

can't wait for the dramas after invites, also good luck to valve :D

http://gosugamers.net/dota2/rankings if we want to look at a full list of possible invites. I think this is the most complete list of teams possible. (Although the ranking should probably just be disregarded in favor of other more salient factors such as stability and overall performance).


I think Valve is being slow about inviting teams because of instability in teams. Na'vi and DK have been some of the most stable teams in the past year so Valve can feel safe in inviting them, which can not be said of many of the other teams. I mean Na'Vi were pretty much a guaranteed invite, but their stability is likely the reason they were the second invite. Ehome as runner-ups should be guaranteed invites as well but with their whole drama the team may be entirely different within a month.

The NA teams will probably be declared last because there won't be any passport issues for them to travel to Seattle (even though some of them have a canadian player getting a visa from canada is far different from getting one from China to the US). So Col/newQuantic/EG are likely to be the last declared invites. (Maelk's already wandering around the US, so he clearly has a passport or has to be doing some real shady shit).

Virtus Pro I agree is also a very likely invite given they perform up to their potential. Dskbn is another possibility, not sure if they'll get counted as NA or SEA (Philippines team that performed well in HoN and has been incredibly stable).
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
May 11 2012 19:23 GMT
#10645
On May 11 2012 18:28 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
© 2012 Valve Corporation, all rights reserved. Dota and the Dota logo are trademarks and/or registered trademarks of Valve Corporation.


oh shit, valve TM 'dota' http://www.dota2.com/tournaments/international/ @_@


Man you are the most sensationalist poster in the entire teamliquid Dota2 section. There is a TM there because they have the trademark. Blizzard is opposing it, the suit is probably still ongoing, that doesn't mean they won or lost, but right now Valve has the trademark.
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 19:37:08
May 11 2012 19:33 GMT
#10646
On May 12 2012 04:23 Zlasher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 18:28 NB wrote:
© 2012 Valve Corporation, all rights reserved. Dota and the Dota logo are trademarks and/or registered trademarks of Valve Corporation.


oh shit, valve TM 'dota' http://www.dota2.com/tournaments/international/ @_@


Man you are the most sensationalist poster in the entire teamliquid Dota2 section. There is a TM there because they have the trademark. Blizzard is opposing it, the suit is probably still ongoing, that doesn't mean they won or lost, but right now Valve has the trademark.

hhaha, im just leeching news from somewhere else. :-/ So you can use the TM even if there is a lawsuit fighting over it?

also, exgosu is now the new quantic :D.

MUFC and Mineski in dragonborn list is kinda misplaced. Pretty sure there was some news about Filipino dota is now completely dota1 due to the scene explosion in their country so they wont be practicing dota2.


On May 12 2012 03:40 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 23:53 dragonborn wrote:
my predictions v2 for the international invites

1.DK - confirmed
2.EHOME - strong chinese team
3.LGD - strong chinese team with spoon style :D
4.TonGfu or iG(according to theyango)
5.Zenith - Best Singaporean team
6.Orange - Solid Malaysian team
7.aL - Best Australian team
8.MUFC - Solid Malaysian team
9.Mineski - Best Philipness team/Philip esports
10.coL/xGosu/EG/itsGoSu - 2x American team(looking at you NB :D)
11.coL/xGosu/EG/itsGoSu - 2x American team
12.NaVi - confirmed
13.CLG #2 EU and stable team
14.#best dreamhack performer
15.#best the defense 2 performer
16.#best overall performer in last 3 months

then valve got non-invited teams like:

ex-Quantic
mousesports
M5
Virtus.Pro
Darer
mTw
Infused
DTS
NEXT.KZ
Keita
fnaticRC

expecting VP for the best overall performer in last 3 months

can't wait for the dramas after invites, also good luck to valve :D

http://gosugamers.net/dota2/rankings if we want to look at a full list of possible invites. I think this is the most complete list of teams possible. (Although the ranking should probably just be disregarded in favor of other more salient factors such as stability and overall performance).


I think Valve is being slow about inviting teams because of instability in teams. Na'vi and DK have been some of the most stable teams in the past year so Valve can feel safe in inviting them, which can not be said of many of the other teams. I mean Na'Vi were pretty much a guaranteed invite, but their stability is likely the reason they were the second invite. Ehome as runner-ups should be guaranteed invites as well but with their whole drama the team may be entirely different within a month.

The NA teams will probably be declared last because there won't be any passport issues for them to travel to Seattle (even though some of them have a canadian player getting a visa from canada is far different from getting one from China to the US). So Col/newQuantic/EG are likely to be the last declared invites. (Maelk's already wandering around the US, so he clearly has a passport or has to be doing some real shady shit).

Virtus Pro I agree is also a very likely invite given they perform up to their potential. Dskbn is another possibility, not sure if they'll get counted as NA or SEA (Philippines team that performed well in HoN and has been incredibly stable).


did you actually read the link you just post? that ranking doesnt make ANY sense to me. NextKz 21? and EG is still that high despite not playing for that long?
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
May 11 2012 19:37 GMT
#10647
So any idea what they did to MM in the update?
High Risk Low Reward
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 19:42:32
May 11 2012 19:41 GMT
#10648
On May 12 2012 04:33 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 04:23 Zlasher wrote:
On May 11 2012 18:28 NB wrote:
© 2012 Valve Corporation, all rights reserved. Dota and the Dota logo are trademarks and/or registered trademarks of Valve Corporation.


oh shit, valve TM 'dota' http://www.dota2.com/tournaments/international/ @_@


Man you are the most sensationalist poster in the entire teamliquid Dota2 section. There is a TM there because they have the trademark. Blizzard is opposing it, the suit is probably still ongoing, that doesn't mean they won or lost, but right now Valve has the trademark.

hhaha, im just leeching news from somewhere else. :-/ So you can use the TM even if there is a lawsuit fighting over it?

Both sides have just under 2 more weeks to finalise their first initial submissions to the court. While the case is still being held, since Valve filed for the trademark, they can say whatever they want until the court says otherwise if it determines so.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
May 11 2012 20:04 GMT
#10649
http://www.dota2.com/tournaments/international/ AL and ORANGE
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
May 11 2012 20:04 GMT
#10650
ORAAAAAANGE <3 <3 <3 <3 <3
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 20:19:44
May 11 2012 20:16 GMT
#10651
interesting they go for orange before Zenith. Nevertheless my emo Yamateh gona be happy with this. Anyone know if Sakura in KS.MY still playing?

Mean while, EHOME is on front page Watch tab. split 2 on each team :D BH SF vs Storm Invoker
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 20:25:11
May 11 2012 20:22 GMT
#10652
On May 12 2012 04:33 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 04:23 Zlasher wrote:
On May 11 2012 18:28 NB wrote:
© 2012 Valve Corporation, all rights reserved. Dota and the Dota logo are trademarks and/or registered trademarks of Valve Corporation.


oh shit, valve TM 'dota' http://www.dota2.com/tournaments/international/ @_@


Man you are the most sensationalist poster in the entire teamliquid Dota2 section. There is a TM there because they have the trademark. Blizzard is opposing it, the suit is probably still ongoing, that doesn't mean they won or lost, but right now Valve has the trademark.

hhaha, im just leeching news from somewhere else. :-/ So you can use the TM even if there is a lawsuit fighting over it?

also, exgosu is now the new quantic :D.

MUFC and Mineski in dragonborn list is kinda misplaced. Pretty sure there was some news about Filipino dota is now completely dota1 due to the scene explosion in their country so they wont be practicing dota2.


Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 03:40 Nevuk wrote:
On May 11 2012 23:53 dragonborn wrote:
my predictions v2 for the international invites

1.DK - confirmed
2.EHOME - strong chinese team
3.LGD - strong chinese team with spoon style :D
4.TonGfu or iG(according to theyango)
5.Zenith - Best Singaporean team
6.Orange - Solid Malaysian team
7.aL - Best Australian team
8.MUFC - Solid Malaysian team
9.Mineski - Best Philipness team/Philip esports
10.coL/xGosu/EG/itsGoSu - 2x American team(looking at you NB :D)
11.coL/xGosu/EG/itsGoSu - 2x American team
12.NaVi - confirmed
13.CLG #2 EU and stable team
14.#best dreamhack performer
15.#best the defense 2 performer
16.#best overall performer in last 3 months

then valve got non-invited teams like:

ex-Quantic
mousesports
M5
Virtus.Pro
Darer
mTw
Infused
DTS
NEXT.KZ
Keita
fnaticRC

expecting VP for the best overall performer in last 3 months

can't wait for the dramas after invites, also good luck to valve :D

http://gosugamers.net/dota2/rankings if we want to look at a full list of possible invites. I think this is the most complete list of teams possible. (Although the ranking should probably just be disregarded in favor of other more salient factors such as stability and overall performance).


I think Valve is being slow about inviting teams because of instability in teams. Na'vi and DK have been some of the most stable teams in the past year so Valve can feel safe in inviting them, which can not be said of many of the other teams. I mean Na'Vi were pretty much a guaranteed invite, but their stability is likely the reason they were the second invite. Ehome as runner-ups should be guaranteed invites as well but with their whole drama the team may be entirely different within a month.

The NA teams will probably be declared last because there won't be any passport issues for them to travel to Seattle (even though some of them have a canadian player getting a visa from canada is far different from getting one from China to the US). So Col/newQuantic/EG are likely to be the last declared invites. (Maelk's already wandering around the US, so he clearly has a passport or has to be doing some real shady shit).

Virtus Pro I agree is also a very likely invite given they perform up to their potential. Dskbn is another possibility, not sure if they'll get counted as NA or SEA (Philippines team that performed well in HoN and has been incredibly stable).


did you actually read the link you just post? that ranking doesnt make ANY sense to me. NextKz 21? and EG is still that high despite not playing for that long?

I said to ignore the rankings. It's just a database* of teams
*current, updated database of teams. As far as I know the rankings are arbitrarily decided by gg.net staffers
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 20:37:02
May 11 2012 20:34 GMT
#10653
The gg.net ranking is an ELO ranking, it's as good as possible. Not 100% accurate (some teams don't have enough matches to be ranked high enough), but imo accurate enough.

Anyway, Orange and aL are good invite. Zenith and MUFC not good enough imo. edit : perhaps I mix up Zenith with another team.
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
May 11 2012 20:52 GMT
#10654
On May 12 2012 04:23 Zlasher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 18:28 NB wrote:
© 2012 Valve Corporation, all rights reserved. Dota and the Dota logo are trademarks and/or registered trademarks of Valve Corporation.


oh shit, valve TM 'dota' http://www.dota2.com/tournaments/international/ @_@


Man you are the most sensationalist poster in the entire teamliquid Dota2 section. There is a TM there because they have the trademark. Blizzard is opposing it, the suit is probably still ongoing, that doesn't mean they won or lost, but right now Valve has the trademark.


Apparently they settled the trademark dispute

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2012/05/11/valve-blizzard-reach-dota-trademark-agreement.aspx
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 20:56:28
May 11 2012 20:53 GMT
#10655
On May 12 2012 04:33 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 04:23 Zlasher wrote:
On May 11 2012 18:28 NB wrote:
© 2012 Valve Corporation, all rights reserved. Dota and the Dota logo are trademarks and/or registered trademarks of Valve Corporation.


oh shit, valve TM 'dota' http://www.dota2.com/tournaments/international/ @_@


Man you are the most sensationalist poster in the entire teamliquid Dota2 section. There is a TM there because they have the trademark. Blizzard is opposing it, the suit is probably still ongoing, that doesn't mean they won or lost, but right now Valve has the trademark.

hhaha, im just leeching news from somewhere else. :-/ So you can use the TM even if there is a lawsuit fighting over it?

also, exgosu is now the new quantic :D.

MUFC and Mineski in dragonborn list is kinda misplaced. Pretty sure there was some news about Filipino dota is now completely dota1 due to the scene explosion in their country so they wont be practicing dota2.


Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 03:40 Nevuk wrote:
On May 11 2012 23:53 dragonborn wrote:
my predictions v2 for the international invites

1.DK - confirmed
2.EHOME - strong chinese team
3.LGD - strong chinese team with spoon style :D
4.TonGfu or iG(according to theyango)
5.Zenith - Best Singaporean team
6.Orange - Solid Malaysian team
7.aL - Best Australian team
8.MUFC - Solid Malaysian team
9.Mineski - Best Philipness team/Philip esports
10.coL/xGosu/EG/itsGoSu - 2x American team(looking at you NB :D)
11.coL/xGosu/EG/itsGoSu - 2x American team
12.NaVi - confirmed
13.CLG #2 EU and stable team
14.#best dreamhack performer
15.#best the defense 2 performer
16.#best overall performer in last 3 months

then valve got non-invited teams like:

ex-Quantic
mousesports
M5
Virtus.Pro
Darer
mTw
Infused
DTS
NEXT.KZ
Keita
fnaticRC

expecting VP for the best overall performer in last 3 months

can't wait for the dramas after invites, also good luck to valve :D

http://gosugamers.net/dota2/rankings if we want to look at a full list of possible invites. I think this is the most complete list of teams possible. (Although the ranking should probably just be disregarded in favor of other more salient factors such as stability and overall performance).


I think Valve is being slow about inviting teams because of instability in teams. Na'vi and DK have been some of the most stable teams in the past year so Valve can feel safe in inviting them, which can not be said of many of the other teams. I mean Na'Vi were pretty much a guaranteed invite, but their stability is likely the reason they were the second invite. Ehome as runner-ups should be guaranteed invites as well but with their whole drama the team may be entirely different within a month.

The NA teams will probably be declared last because there won't be any passport issues for them to travel to Seattle (even though some of them have a canadian player getting a visa from canada is far different from getting one from China to the US). So Col/newQuantic/EG are likely to be the last declared invites. (Maelk's already wandering around the US, so he clearly has a passport or has to be doing some real shady shit).

Virtus Pro I agree is also a very likely invite given they perform up to their potential. Dskbn is another possibility, not sure if they'll get counted as NA or SEA (Philippines team that performed well in HoN and has been incredibly stable).


did you actually read the link you just post? that ranking doesnt make ANY sense to me. NextKz 21? and EG is still that high despite not playing for that long?


If it is in dispute then yeah you can use it until the decision is made

Which it has been, according to Bashiok on Twitter and the articles out like 20 mins ago

Anyways, Orange and AL make sense. Zenith and CLG are pretty much two of the last few "locks" maybe mineski to appease the filipino scene.

It's going to be a serious dogfight for the western teams now. Quantic ex-quantic itsgosu coL EG mouz mTw M5 Darer Virtus.Pro Next.kz (which, i don't think they'll get in unlike someone who posted earlier, i forgot who) DTS Fnatic etc.
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
May 11 2012 21:30 GMT
#10656
On May 12 2012 05:52 Skullflower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 04:23 Zlasher wrote:
On May 11 2012 18:28 NB wrote:
© 2012 Valve Corporation, all rights reserved. Dota and the Dota logo are trademarks and/or registered trademarks of Valve Corporation.


oh shit, valve TM 'dota' http://www.dota2.com/tournaments/international/ @_@


Man you are the most sensationalist poster in the entire teamliquid Dota2 section. There is a TM there because they have the trademark. Blizzard is opposing it, the suit is probably still ongoing, that doesn't mean they won or lost, but right now Valve has the trademark.


Apparently they settled the trademark dispute

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2012/05/11/valve-blizzard-reach-dota-trademark-agreement.aspx

...What?
You mean they both made a decision to not be ridiculous and spend tons of money on a legal team to disrupt one another?

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Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
May 11 2012 21:30 GMT
#10657
i miss singsing stream
Musou
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1375 Posts
May 11 2012 21:35 GMT
#10658
Who is Zenith's 5th player? Since iG officially switched to DOTA2, Chuan, being under contract, won't be able to play for Zenith as a stand-in any more.
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
May 11 2012 21:39 GMT
#10659
On May 12 2012 06:35 Musou wrote:
Who is Zenith's 5th player? Since iG officially switched to DOTA2, Chuan, being under contract, won't be able to play for Zenith as a stand-in any more.

Hyhy
iceiceice
xy
xfreedom
ndrakan
BeanerBurrito
Profile Joined December 2010
1010 Posts
May 12 2012 00:33 GMT
#10660
So if you were a new player trying to learn dota and you were watching a tutorial video, which of these would you prefer?


Poll: What do you prefer in your dota tutorial videos?

Voice-Over + Text (8)
 
62%

Voice-Over (3)
 
23%

Text (2)
 
15%

Music + Text (0)
 
0%

13 total votes

Your vote: What do you prefer in your dota tutorial videos?

(Vote): Voice-Over
(Vote): Text
(Vote): Voice-Over + Text
(Vote): Music + Text



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