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iv~nk~j
Profile Joined August 2012
1140 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-27 19:24:08
April 27 2014 19:23 GMT
#104761
On April 28 2014 03:54 itsdamuffinman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2014 03:38 Torte de Lini wrote:
On April 28 2014 03:33 iv~nk~j wrote:
So what hero are you guys first going to try in a pub when 6.81 hits main client?

Personally I'll probably give Ursa a go


Same, Ursa. I have to figure out how rushing roshan will go now!


Level 4 with a Mask is possible, but extremly risky (I had 100HP left, went down to 27 in between).Skillbuild 022, with 023 it should be safer at level 5. Or just bring a salve for some quick regen in between.

i saw a video of a guy doing it at lvl 3 with just a stout shield and morbid mask. build was 0-1-2

govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
April 27 2014 19:47 GMT
#104762
On April 28 2014 03:33 iv~nk~j wrote:
So what hero are you guys first going to try in a pub when 6.81 hits main client?

Personally I'll probably give Ursa a go


medusa. she looks awesome with more early presence. Gonna try to find a nice build for her, i enjoy that sort o stuff alot.
QoP S-strike cd to 4 seconds means she is as scary like Epic Mealtime without bacon
Keeper of the Light. lthough hard to play i feel, but im gonna try it alot.
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
April 27 2014 20:04 GMT
#104763
It was nice that medusa can now actually get a few points in split shot and it'll be useful without having to max it. Definitely seemed like some much needed changes imho to get her up to speed for how much faster carries come online compared to her prime.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
April 27 2014 20:10 GMT
#104764
I tried doing this as a jungle Ursa; it didn't go too hot. You still need mana regen to pull it off;

I might need to get rid of quelling blade and just get an early Ring of Basi then Morbid Mask
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 27 2014 20:24 GMT
#104765
Ursa jungle is pretty shit anyway. You don't actually want to full jungle with him because having to get jungling items delays your Phase Boots, which gets you into an early killing tempo.

It's much better to have him on lane, and transition him into jungle/ancient farming if the game turns out to be a game where an immediate Blink won't make a huge impact.
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
April 27 2014 20:28 GMT
#104766
On April 28 2014 05:24 TheYango wrote:
Ursa jungle is pretty shit anyway. You don't actually want to full jungle with him because having to get jungling items delays your Phase Boots, which gets you into an early killing tempo.

It's much better to have him on lane, and transition him into jungle/ancient farming if the game turns out to be a game where an immediate Blink won't make a huge impact.

This theoretical lvl 4 fastest Rosh possible build makes more sense with jungle build though. A Ursa ditching the lane after rushing a naked Mask of Death is quite fishy. You can transition into the jungle and then do Rosh at a better time, but by then you will be at a higher level anyway.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
April 27 2014 20:30 GMT
#104767
KOTL with aghs is almost literally nymphora from hon. Kind of hilarious.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
April 27 2014 20:30 GMT
#104768
On April 28 2014 05:30 Nevuk wrote:
KOTL with aghs is almost literally nymphora from hon. Kind of hilarious.


frogice finally porting ideas from #1 moba
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Ru ba
Profile Joined February 2014
Serbia1812 Posts
April 27 2014 20:31 GMT
#104769
ive seen people run lane ursa,wk support + something,let the ursa farm phase/blink while the other 2 are terroring mid lane/pulling and than switch up ursa and wk so he can farm up his own blink.
blink ursa/wk is pretty disgusting tbh
u gotta farm
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
April 27 2014 20:33 GMT
#104770
On April 28 2014 05:24 TheYango wrote:
Ursa jungle is pretty shit anyway. You don't actually want to full jungle with him because having to get jungling items delays your Phase Boots, which gets you into an early killing tempo.

It's much better to have him on lane, and transition him into jungle/ancient farming if the game turns out to be a game where an immediate Blink won't make a huge impact.


I mean to be frank; Ursa/Lifestealer jungle always sucked; doesn't deny how popular it is because of how it doesn't force you to play with teammates scrambling for last hits (and most feel safer).

For Jungle, I pretty much have the person getting Tangos, Stout, Ring of Basi (so more armor/mana regen) and then Morbid Mask.

I think what's cool is that Lane Ursa can get Orb of Venom for insanely good kills
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Ru ba
Profile Joined February 2014
Serbia1812 Posts
April 27 2014 20:59 GMT
#104771
orb of venom is a pretty unnecessary buy on ursa.
u gotta farm
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 27 2014 21:03 GMT
#104772
It might situationally be good in certain vs. melee lanes, because your threat level is a lot higher pre-Phase Boots.
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Ru ba
Profile Joined February 2014
Serbia1812 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-27 21:11:08
April 27 2014 21:09 GMT
#104773
ive never encountered a situation in lane where buying a orb of venom would be better than just buying quicker boots
I guess if you are 1v1ing maybe?idk
u gotta farm
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-27 21:21:30
April 27 2014 21:21 GMT
#104774
Could you lane that ursa+wraithking blinkdagger combo with a wisp? just curious
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-27 21:34:47
April 27 2014 21:32 GMT
#104775
On April 28 2014 06:09 Ru ba wrote:
ive never encountered a situation in lane where buying a orb of venom would be better than just buying quicker boots
I guess if you are 1v1ing maybe?idk


True, but the OOV would be good all-around to eventually go into Skadi :DDDD
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Ru ba
Profile Joined February 2014
Serbia1812 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-27 21:46:58
April 27 2014 21:36 GMT
#104776
On April 28 2014 06:21 govie wrote:
Could you lane that ursa+wraithking blinkdagger combo with a wisp? just curious

you could but it's really greedy and wisp ursa isn't that great in general since the mana change to blink dagger.
depending on what you are up against usually aa,bane,vs,cm,visage or dazzle even are all better picks.
Also it fucks with the enemy mid laners mind,you just cant play the same way when you' don't know where 2 insanely aggressive supports are as opposed to a wisp.
u gotta farm
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
April 27 2014 22:03 GMT
#104777
seems ixmike is trying to revive nel/eel :_D
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
April 27 2014 23:24 GMT
#104778
On April 28 2014 05:30 FinestHour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2014 05:30 Nevuk wrote:
KOTL with aghs is almost literally nymphora from hon. Kind of hilarious.


frogice finally porting ideas from #1 moba


Icefrog has copied infinite number of things from HoN already, like the new tranquil boots.
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
April 27 2014 23:25 GMT
#104779
On April 28 2014 08:24 Zoler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2014 05:30 FinestHour wrote:
On April 28 2014 05:30 Nevuk wrote:
KOTL with aghs is almost literally nymphora from hon. Kind of hilarious.


frogice finally porting ideas from #1 moba


Icefrog has copied infinite number of things from HoN already, like the new tranquil boots.


Free courier at start plz
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
April 27 2014 23:39 GMT
#104780
o ya forgot about those this is why dota is so good now
hon never dies
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