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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 25 2014 20:17 GMT
#104581
On April 26 2014 05:16 Fatalize wrote:
Ok what the fuck

Is there not a number of games limit before playing Ranked? I thought there was

I got matched against someone that has 33 games played and 40% winrate at 5.2k mmr, how can this actually happen?

I think the only way is to party with people who are ranked-enabled.

You can't play ranked solo without being level 13 which is a lot more than 33 games played
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
April 25 2014 20:17 GMT
#104582
you can get to lv 13 with 33 games played
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
April 25 2014 20:18 GMT
#104583
You can play co-op bot games to get to lvl 13

You can't queue ranked if there's someone below lvl 13 in your party
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-25 20:19:12
April 25 2014 20:18 GMT
#104584
for real? wow lol.

I know that playing coop-bot games to level 13 doesn't necessarily get you into ranked though as now it can say that you need more calibration games or something even at 13.
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Fatalize
Profile Joined January 2011
France5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-25 20:20:04
April 25 2014 20:18 GMT
#104585
On April 26 2014 05:17 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2014 05:16 Fatalize wrote:
Ok what the fuck

Is there not a number of games limit before playing Ranked? I thought there was

I got matched against someone that has 33 games played and 40% winrate at 5.2k mmr, how can this actually happen?

I think the only way is to party with people who are ranked-enabled.

You can't play ranked solo without being level 13 which is a lot more than 33 games played

he was solo, and already played Ranked games before that

What I dont get is how it's even possible to get high mmr with so few games played
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 25 2014 20:20 GMT
#104586
smurf detection? its really ez u just win ur first games hard.
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
April 25 2014 20:22 GMT
#104587
Playing solo you can get to lvl 13 after about 35-45 games which will probably take 2 of the 400% boosters. If you party with a bunch of people with those boosters you can do it in like 20-30 games.

Or you can be dumb and abuse TMM or coop bots.
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
April 25 2014 20:22 GMT
#104588
I think they said you need something like 50 unranked games played as well as being lvl 13
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
April 25 2014 20:23 GMT
#104589
On April 26 2014 04:42 ahswtini wrote:
Wow Erasme is famous

+ Show Spoiler +
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he was already famous from targe rising fool
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-25 20:28:04
April 25 2014 20:26 GMT
#104590
On April 26 2014 05:18 Sn0_Man wrote:
for real? wow lol.

I know that playing coop-bot games to level 13 doesn't necessarily get you into ranked though as now it can say that you need more calibration games or something even at 13.

This was a major issue for a while, it was fixed though. Basically if you get to lvl 13 doing co-op bot matches, when you start playing ranked you will essentially have no unranked MMR yet. Since your starting MMR in ranked is based off your unranked, this is kind of an issue because your 10 calibration matches will have the smurf detection still because you never played through it in unranked.

Now you if you get to lvl 13 through bot abuse or TMM server abuse, valve still requires you to play like 30-40 games or something to take out the smurf detection.
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Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
April 25 2014 20:28 GMT
#104591
He dropped orchid and linkens just to heal more with stick? Is that what happened? That is pretty hilarious. I hope the game was already lost for them cause otherwise that's pretty frustrating
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 25 2014 20:28 GMT
#104592
Thankfully boosters actually pretty much skipped the 4-4.5K mmr range via smurf detection so I never had to deal with it :3
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pedrlz
Profile Joined September 2012
Brazil5234 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-25 21:04:09
April 25 2014 21:03 GMT
#104593
I think it is fair to say they will remake phoenix too, since looks like they didn't find a way to fix the AS bug.

Welp, phoenix discussion wasn't on this page, sorry.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 25 2014 21:07 GMT
#104594
Well, hasn't phoenix already received like 3 fairly substantial remakes?
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-25 21:23:59
April 25 2014 21:12 GMT
#104595
Yeah he's nearing TB/Treant levels of remakes.


Ooooh the microplushies are back in stock, ordered 2!
I hope i get a tidehunter and an earthshaker.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-25 21:32:57
April 25 2014 21:31 GMT
#104596
On April 26 2014 06:03 pedrlz wrote:
I think it is fair to say they will remake phoenix too, since looks like they didn't find a way to fix the AS bug.

Welp, phoenix discussion wasn't on this page, sorry.


You realize if they did that they'd pretty much have to remake Enchantress and Legion Commander as well?

EDIT: I suppose they got a work around for LC, but Enchant was the one that the bug was originally found on. Phoenix just makes the problem considerably worse because of his Ult.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 25 2014 21:32 GMT
#104597
The attack speed bug doesn't affect enchantress does it? Since it only applies while attacking her afaik.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-25 21:37:16
April 25 2014 21:33 GMT
#104598
On April 26 2014 06:03 pedrlz wrote:
I think it is fair to say they will remake phoenix too, since looks like they didn't find a way to fix the AS bug.

Welp, phoenix discussion wasn't on this page, sorry.


Couldn't they work around the bug by just applying like a .01s disarm to reset the attack animation manually once the fire spirits debuff wears off?

This wouldn't work for untouchable because you could never auto-attack enchantress under some situations (the debuff might time out before you finish the attack causing you to restart the attack and be debuffed again).
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Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-25 21:34:11
April 25 2014 21:33 GMT
#104599
On April 26 2014 06:32 Sn0_Man wrote:
The attack speed bug doesn't affect enchantress does it? Since it only applies while attacking her afaik.




(I don't know when this video was taken and if other things have changed since then).
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-25 21:35:08
April 25 2014 21:34 GMT
#104600
lol thats messed up.

Still doesn't seem that game breaking but ur right.
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