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IRC chatter should remain in IRC - http://webchat.quakenet.org/?channels=tl.dota2

Posts that relate to topics with their own thread, such as in News, Tournaments or Strategy should go in those threads.
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
March 30 2014 16:24 GMT
#100881
On March 30 2014 17:08 Animzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2014 14:40 idonthinksobro wrote:
On March 30 2014 14:32 Dubzex wrote:
Fh what are you going to do for 10k? Something dota related?


i never understood why a high post count is seen as an achievement, isn't it rather a sign that you waste too much time on a random online forum instead of doing useful things? why would you want to do something special at 10k, id rather be ashamed.


It's like an achievement on CoD. The iGeneration must be rewarded for everything.



I joined at the same time as Tortdelini and he is known by almost everyone so i suppose thats something... lol
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
March 30 2014 16:25 GMT
#100882
i have phoenix and tb in my team

its literally the easiest game of my life
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Animzor
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2154 Posts
March 30 2014 16:39 GMT
#100883
On March 31 2014 01:25 teddyoojo wrote:
i have phoenix and tb in my team

its literally the easiest game of my life


What's so great about Phoenix? Just curious since I haven't seen him played properly.
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-30 16:44:24
March 30 2014 16:44 GMT
#100884
attack slow, dive escape or chase, ulti free aegis + burn/stun, heal/dmg beam

whats not great about him =d
Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-30 16:48:57
March 30 2014 16:48 GMT
#100885
On March 31 2014 01:39 Animzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2014 01:25 teddyoojo wrote:
i have phoenix and tb in my team

its literally the easiest game of my life


What's so great about Phoenix? Just curious since I haven't seen him played properly.


He is a really strong hero.

Also playing him apparently goes against every principle of this thread.



Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-30 16:56:02
March 30 2014 16:55 GMT
#100886
his damage output is pretty insane + a great deal of utility/mobility.
its pretty unusual for a hero to have mobility + a stun (not too reliable but gigantic aoe) + high aoe damage.
come to think of it thats pretty much the same reason everyones mad about ember right now.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
March 30 2014 16:58 GMT
#100887
1,2k dmg nuke isnt ok on lvl 7
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
tauon
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Australia1278 Posts
March 30 2014 16:59 GMT
#100888
My main complaint is how strong he is in lane. Reminds me of 1200 range Magnus skewer at level 1. Also, the fire spirits put them enemy heroes under ridiculous pressure (both farmers and supports).
Road to 6sange
Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
March 30 2014 17:09 GMT
#100889
Heroes that are not ok: tb, lycan, phoenix, slark, ember spirit, invoker
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-30 17:28:59
March 30 2014 17:25 GMT
#100890
What's the problem with Ember Spirit ? Oh right, you got owned by him in a pub because you had zero disables so he must be OP.

On March 31 2014 01:58 teddyoojo wrote:
1,2k dmg nuke isnt ok on lvl 7


wut ?
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
March 30 2014 17:28 GMT
#100891
On March 31 2014 02:25 BlitzerSC wrote:
What's the problem with Ember Spirit ? Oh right, you got owned by him in a pub because you had zero disables so he must be OP.

Ty for clearing that up
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-30 17:32:20
March 30 2014 17:31 GMT
#100892
Zet's not even in the game yet.

EDIT: Though I still prefer Zet over Phoenix, because while a well-played Zet is probably harder to deal with than a well-played Phoenix, it's easier for a poor Phoenix player to use the hero than for a poor Zet player.
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-30 17:33:05
March 30 2014 17:32 GMT
#100893
I've heard scary things about Oracle as well, but not as much as Zet
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
March 30 2014 17:33 GMT
#100894
liek his magic damage is pretty stupid, sof hits shit without vision, chains can do hilarious rng ownage, ulti from base to remnant

Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
March 30 2014 17:35 GMT
#100895
On March 31 2014 01:58 teddyoojo wrote:
1,2k dmg nuke isnt ok on lvl 7

Over 16 seconds, for which he has to hit you 4 times in a row with a slow moving skillshot.

It's easier to get Leschrac 1600 diabolic edict damage on the same target than to hit 4 perfectly timed fire spirits on the same guy that plays better than a potato.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-30 17:40:43
March 30 2014 17:35 GMT
#100896
On March 31 2014 02:32 SKC wrote:
I've heard scary things about Oracle as well, but not as much as Zet

Oracle's pretty strong, he's just not on the same level of "you're a bad person if you pick/don't repick him".

Honestly, it's not just any one thing that you can pinpoint about Phoenix that's OP by itself. He has strong skills, but other heroes also have similarly strong skills.

The thing is you combine that on top of a incredibly strong base hero (ranged Strength hero with 0 animation) and they push him over the top. If he had animations like any hero you could name with a comparably strong skill set, he'd probably be reasonable.

There are plenty of heroes in DotA that have great skills balanced on a poor base hero, or a great base hero with mediocre skills. Phoenix happened to get the best of both worlds.
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
March 30 2014 17:42 GMT
#100897
People need to play more ability draft to realize that kind of stuff.
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
March 30 2014 17:44 GMT
#100898
oracle is definitely "you're a bad person if you pick/don't repick him" tier, but only really works in a team based setting as opposed to something like zet who just wins games by itself when used correctly
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
March 30 2014 18:25 GMT
#100899
well none of u guys know what hell is if you didnt play against the first versions of monkey king
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Roflhaxx
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1244 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-30 19:24:26
March 30 2014 18:27 GMT
#100900
zet was really ridiculous when since you can use midas with his double, haven't really played him since then though so my opinion is kind of irrelevant haha.

I do hope oracle is released before ti4 because I really want to see how extremely strong he must be together with a dazzle. False promise + shallow grave on a morph with only agi or a huskar at low hp. Anyone here still play wc3 dota? Is this a broken combo?
A game where the first thing you do is scout with a “worker”. Does that make any sense? Who scouts with a “worker”? That’s like sending out the janitor to perform recon, what general would do that? Retarded game.
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