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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 21 2014 19:29 GMT
#99541
I guess if u just like walk up to them and coil so that u can hit ur shit. Seems 99 million times worse than just blink tho.
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Adrian_mx
Profile Joined April 2010
Mexico1880 Posts
March 21 2014 20:06 GMT
#99542
Can someone tell me how to play Doom? Whats the ideal item build?
Situational items ? Who is he good against?
我是冠军
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-21 20:08:17
March 21 2014 20:06 GMT
#99543
im 15-1 in my last 16 solo queue games
lifes good
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 21 2014 20:08 GMT
#99544
Doom is really versatile. You can offlane, mid, safelane or even jungle him. Depending on your role, you can go for initiation items like blink or shadowblade, team items like mek/HH, or even secondary carry items like AC.

Who is he good against? well the vast majority of heroes don't do much when they are doomed.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
March 21 2014 20:23 GMT
#99545
On March 22 2014 05:08 Sn0_Man wrote:
Doom is really versatile. You can offlane, mid, safelane or even jungle him. Depending on your role, you can go for initiation items like blink or shadowblade, team items like mek/HH, or even secondary carry items like AC.

Who is he good against? well the vast majority of heroes don't do much when they are doomed.

Pretty much covers it. Lane wherever you are needed, though 90% of the time doom is jungle in pubs. Identify early if you need a mek carrier or not (usually get arcanes in this circumstances). Otherwise phase drums are a solid starting item (or phase blink + centuar stomp is really really really good too). From there just figure out what your team needs (typically phase drums shivas is pretty standard on Doom).
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
March 21 2014 20:24 GMT
#99546
arcanes mek dagger with centaur stomp is the best doom build in 90% of all dota games
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-21 20:30:30
March 21 2014 20:26 GMT
#99547
The only things that are pretty much mandatory on doom are an item to fix his mana and an item to fix his armor. A lot of times, both of those are just shivas but thats absolutely not the only choice. Vlads does the armor and manaboots does the mana, for example. Mek is also an armor item although few people realize it.

Jungle doom is pretty ass though don't do it unless u really have to.

Random thought: Icefrog messing with the xp gains for levels 11 and 12 actually nerfed doom semi-measurably. 11 is a prime number so lvl?death never hits it, and 12 is a multiple of 3/4/6. Yet now people are level 11 earlier and stay level 11 longer and then spend almost no time at level 12 until they hit 13 (another fucking prime rofl).
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-21 20:32:11
March 21 2014 20:30 GMT
#99548
On March 22 2014 04:29 Sn0_Man wrote:
I guess if u just like walk up to them and coil so that u can hit ur shit. Seems 99 million times worse than just blink tho.

its still better for solo kills. any sort of setup stun or nighttime makes it pretty easy to land orb too
it also instantly gibs heroes instead of forcing you to stand there and auto for 5 seconds while someone tps in

edit: i mean blink is still better most of the time but dagon first is usually not bad and sometimes really good
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
March 21 2014 20:32 GMT
#99549
its goddamn awful plz stop saying this there are people here that might believe what ur writing
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 21 2014 20:33 GMT
#99550
On March 22 2014 05:32 teddyoojo wrote:
its goddamn awful plz stop saying this there are people here that might believe what ur writing

how come ur not repping the speed logo if u still have it in ur sig
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
March 21 2014 20:44 GMT
#99551
i just noticed how damn outdated my sig was :D
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
March 21 2014 20:45 GMT
#99552
it's really not that bad lol
qop is like the only reliable dagon first hero
but puck is ok at it
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
March 21 2014 20:48 GMT
#99553
lol ayesee chambers bringing the wwe voice to dota 2 announcer pack soon tm valve copyright
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-21 20:50:36
March 21 2014 20:50 GMT
#99554
On March 22 2014 05:06 teddyoojo wrote:
im 15-1 in my last 16 solo queue games
lifes good

gaben's payback is gonna make you cry =/
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
March 21 2014 20:56 GMT
#99555
On March 22 2014 05:48 FinestHour wrote:
lol ayesee chambers bringing the wwe voice to dota 2 announcer pack soon tm valve copyright

Prepare your ears. While I miss the obnoxious Flamboyant Announcer from Hon, I'm now happy we don't have to be subjected to other players' announcers
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
March 21 2014 20:57 GMT
#99556
Duke Nukem announcer was pretty good
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
March 21 2014 21:13 GMT
#99557
On March 22 2014 05:57 Sn0_Man wrote:
Duke Nukem announcer was pretty good

The Samuel L Jackson announcer is amazing too
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
March 21 2014 21:25 GMT
#99558
On March 22 2014 05:48 FinestHour wrote:
lol ayesee chambers bringing the wwe voice to dota 2 announcer pack soon tm valve copyright
I hope every line is "he got his hand caught in the cookie jar".
Once you Goblak...
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-21 21:29:58
March 21 2014 21:29 GMT
#99559
On March 22 2014 04:18 Plansix wrote:
Puck requires your team to follow up and pay attention when you go for the coil. If your team is on the ball, sweet. If not, play storm, because he doesn't always need the follow up.

Puck has a way better time playing from behind because all he really needs is Dagger and the rest of your ability to play out fights is largely execution and not necessarily how farmed you are.

Storm falling behind ends up being a bigger liability to your team because he has a much bigger demand on having items to be useful. A Storm that doesn't have the items and levels to be a threat just isn't scary while even an underfarmed Puck can win the game if he maximizes the effectiveness of his spells.
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
March 21 2014 21:31 GMT
#99560
hly shit rofl
and every time the game starts
GREETINGS AND SALUTATIONS FROM BENAROYA HALL
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