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iokke
United States1179 Posts
I'm talking about ppl that yolo on heroes, never support, steal lh or miss em, and make poor decisions etc. The whole package. Lacking some aspects I understand, but lacking most and still playing with those that seem to have a clue is odd to me edit: this is not extremely common, maybe they are just playing drunk or smth | ||
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ReignSupreme.
Australia4123 Posts
It's a shame I think that those kinds of people and their attitudes slip over into Ranked MM, but nothing you can do about it except follow the course of the game (game goes full retard, you go full retard etc etc). | ||
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Daozzt
United States1263 Posts
I'm talking about ppl that yolo on heroes, never support, steal lh or miss em, and make poor decisions etc. The whole package. | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
On March 19 2014 14:13 iokke wrote: how are there people at 3000+ mmr that lack basic dota skills? this is not a qq, genuinely curious For example we had this pudge that had: no concept of team comp, last picking pudge when we despirately needed support and had no room for another mid was not particularly skilled, missing most hooks and feeding most of the game. did not know how to build the hero, including poorish item chioces + maxing rot last. Who doesn't know how to skill pudge.. I understand that 3300 solo mmr isn't that high up there, but most people already have a decent understanding on most aspects of the game. I can also understand someone maybe someone being shitty at team comp or playing his role properly, but being skilled enough in other aspects of the game to make up for that. But I've ran into quite a few ppl like that pudge and am really curious how such a disparity btw them and others in my skill bracket can exist. It felt like silver v diamond in sc2 before mmr was visible I was just assuming that it was someone with lower mmr just being thrown in the match to make up for someone w higher mmr, for example... but apparently not u r in elo hell its the only logical answer seeing how good u r | ||
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iokke
United States1179 Posts
On March 19 2014 15:14 Daozzt wrote: I'd look at your own play before you start criticizing people in that bracket. i think you may have missed the point. Correct me if I am wrong. I am not saying everyone does that. I'm curious about those few that do. Plenty of people in bracket play well enough for it, or better then me. I was curious about people that play much poorer than the average players matched up together Your comment still stands? finest i never said i was good or above my rating, that was a fucked up reply, but mk edit - I will say that I am better than players like that pudge, but my whole point was that he seems to be much worse than most of the players I play with, not me alone | ||
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Daozzt
United States1263 Posts
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sandyph
Indonesia1640 Posts
On March 19 2014 15:41 Daozzt wrote: People have bad games. +1 there are days where I hit 10/10 pounce from max range and also days where I misses pounce from melee range | ||
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Staboteur
Canada1873 Posts
Aside from these heroes that it's easy to be bad at, and not that easy to be good at, I can't say I notice too many unreasonably bad people at 3500ish. | ||
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iokke
United States1179 Posts
I wasn't wondering about your average guy playing poorly and losing you the game. I was wondering about someone who appears entirely clueless in comparison to your average teammate. But I guess maybe players like these are having really really bad games, I'll leave it at that  kinda scary that lots came after me as if i was doing the I'm too good for my mmr thing.... xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD + Show Spoiler + jk im not German | ||
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Andre
Slovenia3523 Posts
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CorsairHero
Canada9491 Posts
legit solo mid wisp | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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smr
Germany4808 Posts
On March 19 2014 09:46 Dubzex wrote: New patch with the free2play sets just got released. Just looked it up within the game. Anyone else really surprised how cheap it is? As they started to "experiment" with those 25€ sets for lc and terrorblade I expected the free-to-play collection to be somewhere between 20-30€. | ||
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iokke
United States1179 Posts
On March 19 2014 16:01 Andre wrote: Deciding how good someone is based on one game alone is pretty weird. how often do you play more than 1 game with a random pubbie, and how many of your teammates did you consider bad? ;P the $18 for the collection set seems just right in the sense that at $30+ I wouldn't consider it much but at 18 it's much more attractive | ||
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Kishin2
United States7534 Posts
On March 19 2014 16:35 smr wrote: Just looked it up within the game. Anyone else really surprised how cheap it is? As they started to "exeriment" with those 25€ sets for lc and terrorblade I expected the free-to-play collection to be somewhere between 20-30€. Considering the TI3 compendium was only $10, I'm not at all surprised. Interesting to note that since the film is free, the portion of money from the items is basically Dendi, Fear, and hyhy's salary for "acting" in the film. Could be wrong on that though. | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
On March 19 2014 12:27 Thienan567 wrote: Now that Blink dagger has no mana cost, how legit it is on the Spirit bear? I actually want to try this now. I mean, it'll probably be terrible, but MMR sacrifices must be made for the sake of next level. Combine with Point Booster and Abyssal to spend nearly ten thousand gold to create Blink DK, which people already don't use. | ||
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r_con
United States824 Posts
On March 19 2014 12:27 Thienan567 wrote: Now that Blink dagger has no mana cost, how legit it is on the Spirit bear? not legit at all, but i did go the double blink double force staff lone druid, was very fun, and very derpy | ||
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rob.au
1087 Posts
This works against probably 90% of dota players so it's easy to see them getting 3500+ | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
On March 19 2014 17:45 rob.au wrote: Actually Pudge is one of those heroes where he can make up for you being not so good at dota. You can get raped mid, be like 30cs behind but then go camp another lane and get kills on hook recharge. You might suck at teamfighting, but if you hook someone and instagib them it probably doesn't matter. I mean vs most pub pudges they wont even try cs vs me mid they will just start trying to hook me or do their newbie traps like charging you with rot. He's also a tanky hero so he snowballs easy. This works against probably 90% of dota players so it's easy to see them getting 3500+ That's a decent point assuming you mean "not so good at the general mechanics and concepts of DOTA." In order to reliably hook people, you need to have some kind of skill. I guess it's a good demonstration of how there's a lot to master in the game. | ||
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BigO
Sweden956 Posts
Edit, after asking one of those i queued with they also got lpq and one of them got another abandon for a game they won (and yes, I am 100% no one on our party ever got an acctual abandon by leaving etc). | ||
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