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idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
March 02 2014 17:24 GMT
#97701
On March 03 2014 00:33 hfglgg wrote:
so i just had this guy in one of my _ranked_ matches
http://dotabuff.com/players/164436339

valve? what did you break this time? :D


seems like smurf detection working as intended, look at his first 2 games.
idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-02 17:38:04
March 02 2014 17:33 GMT
#97702
On March 03 2014 02:15 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2014 01:53 Numy wrote:
On March 03 2014 01:00 GranDGranT wrote:
Does anyone else Enjoy have a rediculously low MMR and actually randoming and having fun.


This is the best kind of dota. Unfortunately people are too fucking serious to enjoy random dota madness


play -AR?

and tbh from what ive got so far the solo mmr is kinda pointless anyways. just way too many games that get decided by who got the worst picks/feeders in their team. next thing is how bad the decisions are and if thats not enough then it actually becomes a real match.

id say about 75% of the ranked matches i could play half or twice as good and it wouldnt make a difference on the outcome of the game.


ar is a retarded mode, 99% of the time you end up with 4 teammates that can't play the hero they just randomed or whoever gets a better lineup wins. The difference to one or two people randoming is that the rest of the team can actually pick around that and pick a decent lineup.

Your mindset is bad, if you don't think that you can make a difference why do you even play in the first place? Even if it was true (hint it is not) it would still be a bad mindset.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-02 18:22:40
March 02 2014 18:17 GMT
#97703
On March 03 2014 02:24 idonthinksobro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2014 00:33 hfglgg wrote:
so i just had this guy in one of my _ranked_ matches
http://dotabuff.com/players/164436339

valve? what did you break this time? :D


seems like smurf detection working as intended, look at his first 2 games.

The fact that he played more games of sb is the most bizzare thing. Who goes 1 / 31 / 5 on Spirit Breaker and thinks "Yeah, that was fun, I'm gonna play that hero more?"
super gg
wairai
Profile Joined May 2012
Malaysia1000 Posts
March 02 2014 18:49 GMT
#97704
I random more with my friends party for obvious reason, not solo ranked though LOL
Yungin' Leanin' with Pourple Drink
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-02 19:12:09
March 02 2014 19:10 GMT
#97705
On March 02 2014 23:25 ahswtini wrote:
Zet sounds like a more powerful but easier to play Meepo?

They're not really comparable because item sharing to the clone radically changes what you can do with the hero. Being able to double Midas + double Necrobook sort of make the hero.

Also, he's generally played as a support and not a core hero, though the Midas and the double Necro split-push generally farm him up anyway.
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
March 02 2014 19:14 GMT
#97706
i just randomed luna twice in a row .___.
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
March 02 2014 19:16 GMT
#97707
On March 03 2014 03:17 cecek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2014 02:24 idonthinksobro wrote:
On March 03 2014 00:33 hfglgg wrote:
so i just had this guy in one of my _ranked_ matches
http://dotabuff.com/players/164436339

valve? what did you break this time? :D


seems like smurf detection working as intended, look at his first 2 games.

The fact that he played more games of sb is the most bizzare thing. Who goes 1 / 31 / 5 on Spirit Breaker and thinks "Yeah, that was fun, I'm gonna play that hero more?"


practice makes perfect
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-02 19:41:48
March 02 2014 19:40 GMT
#97708
On March 03 2014 04:14 teddyoojo wrote:
i just randomed luna twice in a row .___.

The odds of randomning a hero twice in a row is around 1%, really not that low considering most people have played hundreds of games.
AndyJay
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia833 Posts
March 02 2014 22:19 GMT
#97709
There's definitely something fishy with the random system. There's not much point talking about it though because everyone disregards it as 'random is random', but everyone I know who regularly randoms agrees it's wonky.
Gevna
Profile Joined August 2010
France2332 Posts
March 02 2014 22:54 GMT
#97710
On March 03 2014 07:19 AndyJay wrote:
There's definitely something fishy with the random system. There's not much point talking about it though because everyone disregards it as 'random is random', but everyone I know who regularly randoms agrees it's wonky.

Definitely, I don't believe it's random at all.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
March 02 2014 23:29 GMT
#97711
if random wasn't random it would feel random
Gotard
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland446 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-02 23:40:51
March 02 2014 23:40 GMT
#97712
I think there is (or was) a bug that you can get the same hero few times in a row. Getting the same hero more than twice in a row is absurd and happened to me many times.
"who needs girls when u can play as a protoss or riki" Fen1kz 2013
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
March 02 2014 23:59 GMT
#97713
well so i played a game, we were losing, i was dead so i tabbed out and forgot im still in a game now im low prio for 5 games .______.
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-03 00:06:50
March 03 2014 00:05 GMT
#97714
I remember a lot of people complaining about WC3 Dota random not being random, and the same thing happens in every other game, so you can't really blame skeptics. Who knows, random never feels random anyway, so without actual numbers there's really nothing that can be discussed. Regardless, it's very likely you end up randomning the same hero twice a few times if you play a lot of Dota.
aeroblaster
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States422 Posts
March 03 2014 00:06 GMT
#97715
On March 03 2014 04:10 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2014 23:25 ahswtini wrote:
Zet sounds like a more powerful but easier to play Meepo?

They're not really comparable because item sharing to the clone radically changes what you can do with the hero. Being able to double Midas + double Necrobook sort of make the hero.

Also, he's generally played as a support and not a core hero, though the Midas and the double Necro split-push generally farm him up anyway.

He's like Lone Druid except the "Bear" gives all hero benefits like Meepo along with Items.
If you want to catch a rabbit just hide behind a tree and make the sound of a carrot.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
March 03 2014 00:21 GMT
#97716
On March 03 2014 09:05 SKC wrote:
I remember a lot of people complaining about WC3 Dota random not being random, and the same thing happens in every other game, so you can't really blame skeptics. Who knows, random never feels random anyway, so without actual numbers there's really nothing that can be discussed. Regardless, it's very likely you end up randomning the same hero twice a few times if you play a lot of Dota.

Technically computers can't do true random number generation, but the difference isn't going to be noticeable unless we're talking quintillions of heroes or something absurd.
ControlMonkey
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia3109 Posts
March 03 2014 00:25 GMT
#97717
I don't know anything about the random system in Dota. But people are really good at inventing patterns in randomness.
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
March 03 2014 00:50 GMT
#97718
On March 03 2014 08:29 Nevuk wrote:
if random wasn't random it would feel random



Blizzard hacked doto!?
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
March 03 2014 01:21 GMT
#97719
The current random seems truly random to me but about 6-12 months ago when I would random a lot it definitely didn't seem to be.

Of course, it's very easy for random things to appear not random.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
March 03 2014 01:54 GMT
#97720
On March 03 2014 09:06 aeroblaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2014 04:10 TheYango wrote:
On March 02 2014 23:25 ahswtini wrote:
Zet sounds like a more powerful but easier to play Meepo?

They're not really comparable because item sharing to the clone radically changes what you can do with the hero. Being able to double Midas + double Necrobook sort of make the hero.

Also, he's generally played as a support and not a core hero, though the Midas and the double Necro split-push generally farm him up anyway.

He's like Lone Druid except the "Bear" gives all hero benefits like Meepo along with Items.


Also spark has 2000 range and is hilarious in -wtf
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