EPTA lot of the arguments I hear is like "But it doesn't matter if I kill the opponents mid when my mid miss 50% of the lasthits."
50% is still more than being dead.
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DrPandaPhD
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A lot of the arguments I hear is like "But it doesn't matter if I kill the opponents mid when my mid miss 50% of the lasthits." 50% is still more than being dead. | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
Its not a myth. If you play a snowball mid then you have the capacity to win every lane. Which means if you are better than everyone on both teams you can single-handedly win the game by winning your lane, and then repeatedly ganking sidelanes. Which makes it the safest way to ensure your team doesn't throw harder than you can carry. But that's a big IF. | ||
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Andre
Slovenia3523 Posts
This usually means that it will be naturally easier to get to your true rating as your impact in a large number of games overall will affect if you win or lose. I myself play supports most of the time and get carried ez life. why even sweat in the midlane D: | ||
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zezamer
Finland5701 Posts
but ofc theres million ways to play dota successfully, what you do is matter of preference and if it works then it's good | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On February 25 2014 22:34 teddyoojo wrote: well its pretty simple, if u want mmr u pick terrorblade this hero does not lose i pretend new heroes dont exist | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
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FFGenerations
7088 Posts
remember these stats apply to 2.4k mmr where the carry players are selfish as fuck and IMO the greatest struggle of some mid heroes is against their own team.... my tinker was 26% back at 2400mr and i was shouting myself hoarse trying to explain to people what my abilities do, hoping they would come in after my initiation, telling them to group up and push again and again on completely deaf ears.......(please take mid tower now...pls....pls....pls do something.....anyone..??) | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On February 26 2014 01:33 Kupon3ss wrote: ESL can't do anything big in DotA until they rebrand and create a "separate studio/line that they technically dont own" ala EG/Alliance to get around the issue of Riot-approval Carmac pretty much stated that this wasn't the case | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On February 25 2014 22:34 teddyoojo wrote: well its pretty simple, if u want mmr u pick terrorblade this hero does not lose Unless someone on your team picks him. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On February 25 2014 23:06 Andre wrote: Yea I don't agree with it being a myth either. Mid role will almost always have the highest impact in a game(or the lowest if you fail). This usually means that it will be naturally easier to get to your true rating as your impact in a large number of games overall will affect if you win or lose. It is true, and the low winrate on mid heroes is simply explained by the fact that the vast majority of people are not significantly far from their true rating. There are a ton of people who feel like they need to play mid every game because they wrongly believe they are usually the best player in their game due to an overestimation of their own skill. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
/s | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
On February 25 2014 23:08 zezamer wrote: constantly ganking sidelanes is probably one of the reasons why people cant snowball on mids, your first big item comes too late and you lose too much xp, killing your chance to get totally out of control but ofc theres million ways to play dota successfully, what you do is matter of preference and if it works then it's good That's why you only gank sidelanes when you can get kills out of it | ||
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idonthinksobro
3138 Posts
On February 26 2014 01:56 Sn0_Man wrote: But Yango, even when I go 1-13 as puck it isn't my fault! Honestly I was the best player on my team but my 14-2 jugg was just so fucking awful I couldn't carry him. If only my allies didn't suck I'd win more and be at /s puck is a bad example, it has solo kill potential but if you try to gank a sidelane you need your allies to actually follow up. I resolved to writing out in chat that "ganking top, i will blink soon, help me." and yet they still sometimes just sit there doing nothing at 4k mmr after i silenced and ulted. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On February 26 2014 02:05 ahswtini wrote: That's why you only gank sidelanes when you can get kills out of it Which really isn't something that you can control since it isn't difficult to position yourself so that you can't get ganked when mid is missing. Hence why lower level pubs always cry for ganks cuz in their experience it works, but as you go up the chain people gank less and less out of mid as the ward vision and map awareness makes it riskier to leave lane like that for potentially no benefit. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
I get a good rune(mostly Haste, sometimes invis) and it usually has to be the on the respective lane to be ganked(top rune haste=top lane gank) I have to go back to base for whatever reason(TP to t1 tower and gank) Countergank. Its an offensive tri and shit needs to be done. If not I usually prefer farming Orchid/whatever item because the risk vs reward is bad. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
1 week apart, both start with $150,000 prize pool plus ticket sales and are LAN events, I'm very interested to see what they do to one-up each other etc. Obviously, in person attendance is gonna be a ton higher at the ESL tournament (Football stadium, European fans, etc) but still. | ||
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
god save us all. | ||
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
On February 26 2014 02:12 Sn0_Man wrote: MLG. Dreamhack Summer. ESL Event are all 1 week apart from eachother. Kind of silly to be honest. Last time we also had MLG and DHW back to back and it really just killed the hype of the second event.PS, MLG Anaheim vs ESL Frankfurt is gonna be a hell of a showdown tournament-wise. 1 week apart, both start with $150,000 prize pool plus ticket sales and are LAN events, I'm very interested to see what they do to one-up each other etc. Obviously, in person attendance is gonna be a ton higher at the ESL tournament (Football stadium, European fans, etc) but still. And yeah, I dno how big the German Dota audience really is. I always got the impression it was relatively small. | ||
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