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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-14 22:32:09
February 14 2014 22:31 GMT
#96681
On February 15 2014 06:07 canikizu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 05:45 NB wrote:
rofl... esex article got translated to a vietnamese national news site. Even my friend who has been working in Vietnamese technews industry for 7 years thought the article was serious. Garena dominate the scene with HoN and LoL so people are a bit uninitiated on DotA2 news >.>

http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1xx4od/so_an_esex_dota2_article_got_translated_to/

Or people don't really use that website to get game news in Vietnam, they usually go to gamek.vn to get game news...

Thats might be true but it has influence over the non-gamer part of the population. Investors, parents,educators... you name it. If my friend who has been playing dota for many years, had a history working with Garena, cant tell the different between joke and serious just because she doesnt play dota2, i think there are many more who gona take that article as facts. I have worked with gaming portals in Vietnam since grade 11th, these kinda uninitiate things do more harm than good. The main reason why i wanted this to blew over is for these news site to strengthen their quality control in the future but comedic purposed for the english speaking community.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
February 14 2014 23:35 GMT
#96682
Can confirm that not caring is the best way to play games unless you're actually trying to be like, good. In fact I'm pretty sure since I've taken that attitude I actually end up playing worse when I start caring and stress about mistakes and shit, Yangostack can confirm this as well.

Although with that said I don't solo ranked doto, but I never solo pub it either outside of AD, and I never soloed in League either.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
February 14 2014 23:48 GMT
#96683
On February 15 2014 08:35 red_ wrote:
Can confirm that not caring is the best way to play games unless you're actually trying to be like, good. In fact I'm pretty sure since I've taken that attitude I actually end up playing worse when I start caring and stress about mistakes and shit, Yangostack can confirm this as well.

Although with that said I don't solo ranked doto, but I never solo pub it either outside of AD, and I never soloed in League either.


Go ask any Pro what the game was like before they became pro, 90% of them will say they played a game a lot because it was fun and just became really good at it.

Playing games with the intention of improving often leads to hitting a brick wall because you care more about winning and improving than just enjoying yourself. You learn so much faster when you are having fun doing it and not forcing yourself.

canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-15 00:36:45
February 15 2014 00:02 GMT
#96684
On February 15 2014 07:31 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 06:07 canikizu wrote:
On February 15 2014 05:45 NB wrote:
rofl... esex article got translated to a vietnamese national news site. Even my friend who has been working in Vietnamese technews industry for 7 years thought the article was serious. Garena dominate the scene with HoN and LoL so people are a bit uninitiated on DotA2 news >.>

http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1xx4od/so_an_esex_dota2_article_got_translated_to/

Or people don't really use that website to get game news in Vietnam, they usually go to gamek.vn to get game news...

Thats might be true but it has influence over the non-gamer part of the population. Investors, parents,educators... you name it. If my friend who has been playing dota for many years, had a history working with Garena, cant tell the different between joke and serious just because she doesnt play dota2, i think there are many more who gona take that article as facts. I have worked with gaming portals in Vietnam since grade 11th, these kinda uninitiate things do more harm than good. The main reason why i wanted this to blew over is for these news site to strengthen their quality control in the future but comedic purposed for the english speaking community.

gamek.vn has every dota2 major article every week. To me that's a lot already, considering it's catered for general audience. For people who are in Dota2/LoL/SC2 cycle, of course there're no websites that are dedicated for a particular game. You just can't go to a trash website and assume this and that. That website used to be good, but after the owner sold it to vnexpress.net years ago, it went downhill. You can basically send an email with an article to the editors and they will just put the article out without checking sources.
njt7
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden769 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-15 02:06:45
February 15 2014 02:03 GMT
#96685
Nuked myself.
"All the casters who flamed me ever for anything."
superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-15 02:23:40
February 15 2014 02:18 GMT
#96686
On February 15 2014 08:48 Esoterikk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 08:35 red_ wrote:
Can confirm that not caring is the best way to play games unless you're actually trying to be like, good. In fact I'm pretty sure since I've taken that attitude I actually end up playing worse when I start caring and stress about mistakes and shit, Yangostack can confirm this as well.

Although with that said I don't solo ranked doto, but I never solo pub it either outside of AD, and I never soloed in League either.


Go ask any Pro what the game was like before they became pro, 90% of them will say they played a game a lot because it was fun and just became really good at it.

Playing games with the intention of improving often leads to hitting a brick wall because you care more about winning and improving than just enjoying yourself. You learn so much faster when you are having fun doing it and not forcing yourself.




At a certain point to improve you have to play to improve. Most of the time this involves scrimming with teammates, watching replays on the latest strategies and metagame picks, along with playing pubs with the intent on improving individual mechanics (since individual mechanics make a huge impact on pub games).

Also, pros played when the game was not nearly as developed or professional as it is now. The pub game scene never even warded, and in fact it was actually heavily discouraged to ward and sentry, etc. Now, it is almost a prerequisite to ward hard as a support character, along with other 'discouraged' tactics like roaming, etc. If you want to improve once you reach a certain threshold (usually around the 4k-4.5k area), you pretty much have to play to improve. Yes, you should have fun while still doing it, but don't think that you can just pick random shit and expect to win in pubs anymore, as the levels of pubs have dramatically risen since the release of DotA 2.
ZerG~LegenD
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Sweden1179 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-15 02:32:27
February 15 2014 02:32 GMT
#96687
This is in an interesting read on the topic of improving: Link
Even a broken clock is right twice a day
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-15 02:54:30
February 15 2014 02:53 GMT
#96688
On February 15 2014 11:32 ZerG~LegenD wrote:
This is in an interesting read on the topic of improving: Link

these kinda topic are far beyond the border of gaming and diascussions involve self improving could goes all the way from philosophy to historical and cultural studies with a dash of psycho analysis involved. Methods are differents depends on the person and its easier if you set out goals, be objective to quantify your self-growth overtime. There are many good books and articles that could help you on the issue but most people who made it far in gaming or pokers would always recommend chess related book(day9 has a favorite if you care to look it up). For dota or LoL,you also need to look at resources for leadership and team building. My personal experience also find cognitive science helps a lot in understanding thought process and improve your leadership skill

edit: excuse my tablet remote desktop typos
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
February 15 2014 03:42 GMT
#96689
bloom bounties giving rares>?
:)
idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-15 03:51:58
February 15 2014 03:51 GMT
#96690
On February 15 2014 12:42 synapse wrote:
bloom bounties giving rares>?


yes they suddenly changed it.
Eriksen
Profile Joined December 2012
Micronesia720 Posts
February 15 2014 06:41 GMT
#96691
ha seriously? not going to open that 3k box anymore.
Whether it has ended with a happy ending or sad, I never was an important thing to you.
Adrian_mx
Profile Joined April 2010
Mexico1880 Posts
February 15 2014 07:14 GMT
#96692
how would one draft Sniper as offlane in CM ?
What bans and other synergy hereos would do good with him?
我是冠军
Jaeger
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1150 Posts
February 15 2014 07:35 GMT
#96693
On February 15 2014 16:14 Adrian_mx wrote:
how would one draft Sniper as offlane in CM ?
What bans and other synergy hereos would do good with him?


Well you might start with raw statistics from dota buff for ban ideas.

[image loading]
https://www.dotabuff.com/players/8137911
tpmraven
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States833 Posts
February 15 2014 07:56 GMT
#96694
On February 15 2014 16:35 Jaeger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 16:14 Adrian_mx wrote:
how would one draft Sniper as offlane in CM ?
What bans and other synergy hereos would do good with him?


Well you might start with raw statistics from dota buff for ban ideas.

[image loading]


nyx and riki fucking destroy him as well.
(⌐■_■) Like a boss
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
February 15 2014 08:23 GMT
#96695
It's a sniper. Most heroes destroy him.

If it's a solo offlane sniper, the better question to ask is: what possible trilane can I pay my opponents to draft in order to not kill him five times before three minutes.
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
February 15 2014 08:30 GMT
#96696
Appearently A.Bulldog is playing offlane Sniper a lot on his stream, so I guess it works. Somehow.
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
February 15 2014 08:32 GMT
#96697
On February 15 2014 17:30 hooahah wrote:
Appearently A.Bulldog is playing offlane Sniper a lot on his stream, so I guess it works. Somehow.

everything can work somehow. if the other team is decent they will smokegank behind your tower and kill you many times thou
FTD
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-15 08:43:07
February 15 2014 08:42 GMT
#96698
I can see how it works. I've certainly lost to one on the other team, because trenchlord and all that. If they have a passive duo like a hardcarry with a support that sniper can just outrange and outtrade, and nobody ganks him, he does depressingly well.

But if the other team wants him dead, they will kill him. Over and over. If you're trying to draft for him, that implies you're in CM, and I'm pretty sure that even random pub CMs wouldn't leave an offlane sniper alone.
dfs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Russian Federation4050 Posts
February 15 2014 08:43 GMT
#96699
On February 15 2014 08:48 Esoterikk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 08:35 red_ wrote:
Can confirm that not caring is the best way to play games unless you're actually trying to be like, good. In fact I'm pretty sure since I've taken that attitude I actually end up playing worse when I start caring and stress about mistakes and shit, Yangostack can confirm this as well.

Although with that said I don't solo ranked doto, but I never solo pub it either outside of AD, and I never soloed in League either.


Go ask any Pro what the game was like before they became pro, 90% of them will say they played a game a lot because it was fun and just became really good at it.

Playing games with the intention of improving often leads to hitting a brick wall because you care more about winning and improving than just enjoying yourself. You learn so much faster when you are having fun doing it and not forcing yourself.


I completely agree with that. Relaxed attitude will get you further untill you hit the "pretty skilled" cap, where to progress you will actually have to try hard.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/Q1jSb9X.jpg (c) Shiro; http://i.imgur.com/lSDLLKb.png (c) drav
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
February 15 2014 09:15 GMT
#96700
On February 15 2014 16:56 tpmraven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2014 16:35 Jaeger wrote:
On February 15 2014 16:14 Adrian_mx wrote:
how would one draft Sniper as offlane in CM ?
What bans and other synergy hereos would do good with him?


Well you might start with raw statistics from dota buff for ban ideas.

[image loading]


nyx and riki fucking destroy him as well.

riki not so much, you just have to buy force staff.
:)
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