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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
January 24 2014 20:37 GMT
#94621
On January 25 2014 05:34 hooahah wrote:
I remember when no one picked Alch. Ever. For any role.

Good times.

Back when he was the worst hero in the game and his stun was the worst spell he had...
Moderator
juracule
Profile Joined November 2013
292 Posts
January 24 2014 20:41 GMT
#94622
He became picked a shitload shortly before TI3, he wasn't that much different than his current iteration before that happened.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
January 24 2014 20:44 GMT
#94623
whyd u vote a dojer ??
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 24 2014 20:49 GMT
#94624
On January 25 2014 05:41 juracule wrote:
He became picked a shitload shortly before TI3, he wasn't that much different than his current iteration before that happened.

    6.75
  • Acid Spray
    Damage per second increased from 8/16/24/32 to 14/20/26/32.
    Manacost rescaled from 160 to 130/140/150/160.
  • Unstable Concoction
    Max damage increased from 130/200/270/340 to 150/220/290/360.
    No longer displays the countdown numbers to enemies.
    Always affects a 175 area around where it explodes (Includes when it explodes on Alchemist).
  • Greevil's Greed
    Counter duration increased from 20 to 25 seconds.
    Bonus gold scaling adjusted from 2/4/6/8 + 2 to 4/6/8/10 + 1/2/3/4.
  • Chemical Rage Base Attack Time decreased from 1.45/1.3/1.15 to 1.4/1.2/1.0.

Only huge-ass buffs to all 4 skills lol. Not much different.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-24 20:50:06
January 24 2014 20:49 GMT
#94625
Alchemist is like the plastic christmastrees we put in the attic after christmas, an imposter. Looks nice and all just because of one simple stun/skill. I think he is overappriciated as a support. The spray is nice but not gamechanging, the ultimate is nice but not gamechanging either without carrylike items and greevilsgreed is useless without the time to farm. All his skills seem to show he really wants descent items/farm, which as a support arent garanteed.
Like, a nyx as a support doesnt have that problem and gives the same or even better solokillpotential with better teamfightabilities. I just dont get the alch-hype when seeing so many other potentially better supporthero's.
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 24 2014 20:59 GMT
#94626
Silly govie.

Spray is absurdly good. Big -armor like venge but much better aoe and damage. Also great for helping him find farm
Stun is busted as everybody knows
Greed is obviously low-priority on a support but it about doubles the efficacy of whatever farm-time alch can find. Past 30-mins, support alchs still can always get that heaven's halberd or AC or Necrobook or whatever the team needs without having to steal much farm space at all.
And his ult makes him one of those never-feed supports since you have to focus wayyyyy too much on insta-gibbing him for it to be worth it considering his support status. Plus it lets you supplement your team's dmg with right clicks as well as meaning you almost never have to go fountain once you hit 6 (or especially 11).

Nyx has some niche things that make him better in a very few circumstances but its not close to the same. Especially since alch is about 7x easier to execute.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
juracule
Profile Joined November 2013
292 Posts
January 24 2014 21:14 GMT
#94627
On January 25 2014 05:49 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 05:41 juracule wrote:
He became picked a shitload shortly before TI3, he wasn't that much different than his current iteration before that happened.

    6.75
  • Acid Spray
    Damage per second increased from 8/16/24/32 to 14/20/26/32.
    Manacost rescaled from 160 to 130/140/150/160.
  • Unstable Concoction
    Max damage increased from 130/200/270/340 to 150/220/290/360.
    No longer displays the countdown numbers to enemies.
    Always affects a 175 area around where it explodes (Includes when it explodes on Alchemist).
  • Greevil's Greed
    Counter duration increased from 20 to 25 seconds.
    Bonus gold scaling adjusted from 2/4/6/8 + 2 to 4/6/8/10 + 1/2/3/4.
  • Chemical Rage Base Attack Time decreased from 1.45/1.3/1.15 to 1.4/1.2/1.0.

Only huge-ass buffs to all 4 skills lol. Not much different.

Changelog of 6.75b came out 30th of september 2012
TI3 started somewhere August 2013.
He was barely picked during this gap, despite these massive buffs.
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6228 Posts
January 24 2014 21:31 GMT
#94628
was the last clip in this video sent in by our very own ETT?
good vibes only
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 24 2014 21:33 GMT
#94629
On January 23 2014 18:02 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Sunsfan said my name! I'm e-famous now.

I'm guessing so (Quote is from a diff thread btw)
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
January 24 2014 21:35 GMT
#94630
On January 25 2014 03:40 Kupon3ss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 03:24 TheEmulator wrote:
On January 25 2014 03:22 Qbek wrote:
On January 25 2014 03:20 TheEmulator wrote:
On January 25 2014 02:47 Firebolt145 wrote:
On January 25 2014 02:43 TheEmulator wrote:
On January 25 2014 02:11 kollin wrote:
Uh oh firebolt can moderate me

No he can't. Banlings can't do anything to staff, only reds/admins can moderate other staff.

So you're free to flame him as much as you want

Whoops you're wrong.

ROFL even more wrong.

User was warned for this post

banlings can't actually ban staff, which is what I meant by moderate other staff. On the other hand I can ban you so tread wisely

Are you playing cs today emulgator?

A bit off topic, but yes I will carry you in csgo later.

On another note, what's with Alch support in pubs. The new thing for the young kids these days?


if by new thing you mean mid 2012, then yes

When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 24 2014 21:48 GMT
#94631
On January 25 2014 06:33 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2014 18:02 EvilTeletubby wrote:
Sunsfan said my name! I'm e-famous now.

I'm guessing so (Quote is from a diff thread btw)

That antimage fail is still amazing. Boxing all your units is hard on dota.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
January 24 2014 21:51 GMT
#94632
I always like to think of support Alchemist as a battering ram to support assaults on buildings.

Even without too many items his ult is really nice. And if someone manages to get an AC up and he gets BKB (thanks to the bonuses from greed) then you can take towers handily. And even as a support he's pretty solidly tanky.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Obelisco
Profile Joined January 2011
Peru1962 Posts
January 24 2014 22:21 GMT
#94633
so I was testing the ms to different servers today. I started on us east and i had 220~ ms.. Its what i usually play on (yes 220 ms) because i queue for us east/west with friends from usa/ca. Then i tried LA servers... for some unknown reason i get 350 ms... wtf. Europe? i got 300 ms, lower than LA.

Then I started a local lobby. Oh. my god.. 5 ms.. its an entirely new game, now i'm sad.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 24 2014 22:26 GMT
#94634
I could have sworn South American servers exist
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-24 22:27:54
January 24 2014 22:27 GMT
#94635
Nice little thing to check your ping to all servers:

+ Show Spoiler [code] +
@ECHO off
REM Dota 2 Ping Tester edited by FranzMeister (original code from PlanetSide 2 Ping Tester by Sh4rkill3rSG)
REM IPs copied from [url=http://thebinaryrealm.blogspot.in/2013/10/list-of-ip-addresses-of-all-dota2.html]http://thebinaryrealm.blogspot.in/2013/10/list-of-ip-addresses-of-all-dota2.html[/url]
ECHO DOTA 2 PING TESTER by FranzMeister 0.1 December 2013
ECHO ====================================== && ECHO.South East Asia, Singapore
CALL:dota2 103.28.54.1
ECHO - (SEA) Singapore: %ms%
CALL:dota2 103.10.124.1
ECHO - (SEA) Singapore: %ms%
ECHO ====================================== && ECHO.Europe
CALL:dota2 146.66.152.1
ECHO - (EU West) Luxembourg: %ms%
CALL:dota2 146.66.155.1
ECHO - (EU East) Vienna: %ms%
ECHO ====================================== && ECHO.United States
CALL:dota2 192.69.96.1
ECHO - (US West) Washington: %ms%
CALL:dota2 208.78.164.1
ECHO - (US East) Sterling: %ms%
ECHO ======================================
ECHO Australia
CALL:dota2 103.10.125.1
ECHO - (AU) Sydney: %ms%
ECHO ======================================
ECHO Russia
CALL:dota2 146.66.156.1
ECHO - (SW) Stockholm: %ms%
ECHO ======================================
ECHO South America
CALL:dota2 209.197.29.1
ECHO - (BR): %ms%
CALL:dota2 209.197.25.1
ECHO - (BR): %ms%
ECHO ======================================
ECHO South Africa
CALL:dota2 197.80.200.1
ECHO - (SA) Cape Town %ms%
CALL:dota2 196.38.180.1
ECHO - (SA) Cape Town %ms%
ECHO ======================================
ECHO.
ECHO.
ECHO.
ECHO "The listed IPs are of one among the servers used in a cluster for all regions, which is enough to approximately determine the ping."




ECHO.&PAUSE&GOTO:EOF

:dota2
SET ms=Error
FOR /F "tokens=4 delims==" %%i IN ('ping.exe -n 1 %1 ^| FIND "ms"') DO SET ms=%%i
GOTO:EOF


Copy the above and paste it into a notepad file, save it and rename it to ping.bat. Run it.
Moderator
Obelisco
Profile Joined January 2011
Peru1962 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-24 22:39:20
January 24 2014 22:32 GMT
#94636
On January 25 2014 07:26 Sn0_Man wrote:
I could have sworn South American servers exist

LA = Latin America... i get higher ping there than i get to us east/west.. and the same ping that i get to luxembourg

No need to be rude.
edit:
@Firebolt, thanks I already ran it and ill post an image in a sec
idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
January 24 2014 22:40 GMT
#94637
On January 25 2014 07:27 Firebolt145 wrote:
Nice little thing to check your ping to all servers:

+ Show Spoiler [code] +
@ECHO off
REM Dota 2 Ping Tester edited by FranzMeister (original code from PlanetSide 2 Ping Tester by Sh4rkill3rSG)
REM IPs copied from [url=http://thebinaryrealm.blogspot.in/2013/10/list-of-ip-addresses-of-all-dota2.html]http://thebinaryrealm.blogspot.in/2013/10/list-of-ip-addresses-of-all-dota2.html[/url]
ECHO DOTA 2 PING TESTER by FranzMeister 0.1 December 2013
ECHO ====================================== && ECHO.South East Asia, Singapore
CALL:dota2 103.28.54.1
ECHO - (SEA) Singapore: %ms%
CALL:dota2 103.10.124.1
ECHO - (SEA) Singapore: %ms%
ECHO ====================================== && ECHO.Europe
CALL:dota2 146.66.152.1
ECHO - (EU West) Luxembourg: %ms%
CALL:dota2 146.66.155.1
ECHO - (EU East) Vienna: %ms%
ECHO ====================================== && ECHO.United States
CALL:dota2 192.69.96.1
ECHO - (US West) Washington: %ms%
CALL:dota2 208.78.164.1
ECHO - (US East) Sterling: %ms%
ECHO ======================================
ECHO Australia
CALL:dota2 103.10.125.1
ECHO - (AU) Sydney: %ms%
ECHO ======================================
ECHO Russia
CALL:dota2 146.66.156.1
ECHO - (SW) Stockholm: %ms%
ECHO ======================================
ECHO South America
CALL:dota2 209.197.29.1
ECHO - (BR): %ms%
CALL:dota2 209.197.25.1
ECHO - (BR): %ms%
ECHO ======================================
ECHO South Africa
CALL:dota2 197.80.200.1
ECHO - (SA) Cape Town %ms%
CALL:dota2 196.38.180.1
ECHO - (SA) Cape Town %ms%
ECHO ======================================
ECHO.
ECHO.
ECHO.
ECHO "The listed IPs are of one among the servers used in a cluster for all regions, which is enough to approximately determine the ping."




ECHO.&PAUSE&GOTO:EOF

:dota2
SET ms=Error
FOR /F "tokens=4 delims==" %%i IN ('ping.exe -n 1 %1 ^| FIND "ms"') DO SET ms=%%i
GOTO:EOF


Copy the above and paste it into a notepad file, save it and rename it to ping.bat. Run it.


after doing this my computer isn't working anymore, writing this from my mobile phone. pls help

Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
January 24 2014 22:42 GMT
#94638
On January 25 2014 07:40 idonthinksobro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 07:27 Firebolt145 wrote:
Nice little thing to check your ping to all servers:

+ Show Spoiler [code] +
@ECHO off
REM Dota 2 Ping Tester edited by FranzMeister (original code from PlanetSide 2 Ping Tester by Sh4rkill3rSG)
REM IPs copied from [url=http://thebinaryrealm.blogspot.in/2013/10/list-of-ip-addresses-of-all-dota2.html]http://thebinaryrealm.blogspot.in/2013/10/list-of-ip-addresses-of-all-dota2.html[/url]
ECHO DOTA 2 PING TESTER by FranzMeister 0.1 December 2013
ECHO ====================================== && ECHO.South East Asia, Singapore
CALL:dota2 103.28.54.1
ECHO - (SEA) Singapore: %ms%
CALL:dota2 103.10.124.1
ECHO - (SEA) Singapore: %ms%
ECHO ====================================== && ECHO.Europe
CALL:dota2 146.66.152.1
ECHO - (EU West) Luxembourg: %ms%
CALL:dota2 146.66.155.1
ECHO - (EU East) Vienna: %ms%
ECHO ====================================== && ECHO.United States
CALL:dota2 192.69.96.1
ECHO - (US West) Washington: %ms%
CALL:dota2 208.78.164.1
ECHO - (US East) Sterling: %ms%
ECHO ======================================
ECHO Australia
CALL:dota2 103.10.125.1
ECHO - (AU) Sydney: %ms%
ECHO ======================================
ECHO Russia
CALL:dota2 146.66.156.1
ECHO - (SW) Stockholm: %ms%
ECHO ======================================
ECHO South America
CALL:dota2 209.197.29.1
ECHO - (BR): %ms%
CALL:dota2 209.197.25.1
ECHO - (BR): %ms%
ECHO ======================================
ECHO South Africa
CALL:dota2 197.80.200.1
ECHO - (SA) Cape Town %ms%
CALL:dota2 196.38.180.1
ECHO - (SA) Cape Town %ms%
ECHO ======================================
ECHO.
ECHO.
ECHO.
ECHO "The listed IPs are of one among the servers used in a cluster for all regions, which is enough to approximately determine the ping."




ECHO.&PAUSE&GOTO:EOF

:dota2
SET ms=Error
FOR /F "tokens=4 delims==" %%i IN ('ping.exe -n 1 %1 ^| FIND "ms"' DO SET ms=%%i
GOTO:EOF


Copy the above and paste it into a notepad file, save it and rename it to ping.bat. Run it.


after doing this my computer isn't working anymore, writing this from my mobile phone. pls help


If you're joking please say so else others will not want to run it.
Moderator
idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
January 24 2014 22:43 GMT
#94639
On January 25 2014 07:42 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 07:40 idonthinksobro wrote:
On January 25 2014 07:27 Firebolt145 wrote:
Nice little thing to check your ping to all servers:

+ Show Spoiler [code] +
@ECHO off
REM Dota 2 Ping Tester edited by FranzMeister (original code from PlanetSide 2 Ping Tester by Sh4rkill3rSG)
REM IPs copied from [url=http://thebinaryrealm.blogspot.in/2013/10/list-of-ip-addresses-of-all-dota2.html]http://thebinaryrealm.blogspot.in/2013/10/list-of-ip-addresses-of-all-dota2.html[/url]
ECHO DOTA 2 PING TESTER by FranzMeister 0.1 December 2013
ECHO ====================================== && ECHO.South East Asia, Singapore
CALL:dota2 103.28.54.1
ECHO - (SEA) Singapore: %ms%
CALL:dota2 103.10.124.1
ECHO - (SEA) Singapore: %ms%
ECHO ====================================== && ECHO.Europe
CALL:dota2 146.66.152.1
ECHO - (EU West) Luxembourg: %ms%
CALL:dota2 146.66.155.1
ECHO - (EU East) Vienna: %ms%
ECHO ====================================== && ECHO.United States
CALL:dota2 192.69.96.1
ECHO - (US West) Washington: %ms%
CALL:dota2 208.78.164.1
ECHO - (US East) Sterling: %ms%
ECHO ======================================
ECHO Australia
CALL:dota2 103.10.125.1
ECHO - (AU) Sydney: %ms%
ECHO ======================================
ECHO Russia
CALL:dota2 146.66.156.1
ECHO - (SW) Stockholm: %ms%
ECHO ======================================
ECHO South America
CALL:dota2 209.197.29.1
ECHO - (BR): %ms%
CALL:dota2 209.197.25.1
ECHO - (BR): %ms%
ECHO ======================================
ECHO South Africa
CALL:dota2 197.80.200.1
ECHO - (SA) Cape Town %ms%
CALL:dota2 196.38.180.1
ECHO - (SA) Cape Town %ms%
ECHO ======================================
ECHO.
ECHO.
ECHO.
ECHO "The listed IPs are of one among the servers used in a cluster for all regions, which is enough to approximately determine the ping."




ECHO.&PAUSE&GOTO:EOF

:dota2
SET ms=Error
FOR /F "tokens=4 delims==" %%i IN ('ping.exe -n 1 %1 ^| FIND "ms"') DO SET ms=%%i
GOTO:EOF


Copy the above and paste it into a notepad file, save it and rename it to ping.bat. Run it.


after doing this my computer isn't working anymore, writing this from my mobile phone. pls help


If you're joking please say so else others will not want to run it.


yes it was a joke
Obelisco
Profile Joined January 2011
Peru1962 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-24 22:48:48
January 24 2014 22:47 GMT
#94640
I need to change ISP or move to another country....
+ Show Spoiler +
http://imgur.com/8Qu0Sd3
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