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On May 01 2012 03:10 konadora wrote:
also i just had the weirdest game of my life
on single draft, i randomed skele king, someone on my team had ursa. tried lvl 1 rosh, ursa didnt know how, failed. so behind on exp, i went btm, ursa went top. at bottom lane, i died to drow cm, got pissed cus warlock couldnt support and pull was blocked (as well as us having no courier or wards) so i went jungle and farmed, maxing aura and crit first
18 mins into the game, we're like 15+ kills behind, but we just keep farming. with 10 more mins and taking the rosh, we actually manage to get ahead lol and end game, we were 15+ kills ahead, and i had a rapier lawl.
TLDR: jungling skeleton king is viable
im pretty sure you can jungle with SK if you go only crit+stat and level 1 aura. i did it multiple times but stopped bc its not as good as naix.
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And i won a pub game by rushing rapier on clinkz
Rapier rush is viable
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On May 01 2012 00:38 rabidch wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 00:24 konadora wrote:
ahh okay, then what are better alternatives? i see a lot of riki nuke wise, qop, storm, lina (now popular in chinese scene), batrider, tc, carry wise, morphling, dk, slardar, even bounty hunter, ck, TB(???)
I feel like Lina is one of those supports that is just absolutely on the cusp of getting recognized again. It took the rise in popularity of CK for the Chinese to really start using Lina again (especially since people started banning AA a lot), but I think they started to realize her advantages from that. Once CK gets added to DotA 2, people will probably start playing the CK+Lina combo, and from there it should only take a matter of time for Western teams to realize that they play other heroes that complement her fantastically.
Also, I want to see DK pick Lina in DotA 2, because LongDD's Lina is absolutely nuts.
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Can someone explain why CK+Lina is such a good combo? Is it just for the fact that CK has a longish range swap that can be followed by a stun then chained with linas stun? I could see it being a sweet lane in a pub game or something but generally it seems pros know how to avoid cheesy shit like that.
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I just recently got my key and man I have to say the game is pretty much what I hoped it would be. It feels like dota just better:D Now all I need to do is convince my cs friends to pick it up! also how do you guys build krob I went for arcane boots thinking it would disassemble into bloodstone, but I couldn't disassemble them. Bug or did they change it?
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You disassemble by rightclicking -> picking the apropraite option on the menu that shows. If you can't see the option move them to upper slot, it sometimes hides under the screen :/
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On May 01 2012 03:53 Hoban wrote:
Can someone explain why CK+Lina is such a good combo? Is it just for the fact that CK has a longish range swap that can be followed by a stun then chained with linas stun? I could see it being a sweet lane in a pub game or something but generally it seems pros know how to avoid cheesy shit like that.
What exactly do you plan to "avoid" by always staying 700+ range away from CK and letting him freefarm? A CK that gets to freefarm is insanely powerful in mid- and late-game teamfights. Unlike many "cheesy" pub kill lanes, CK+Lina is based around a carry that doesn't fall off in the slightest in mid- and late-game engagements.
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On May 01 2012 02:58 TheWarbler wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 02:36 Zlasher wrote:
In terms of laning Mirana always goes in the hard lane, and WR is way better than her at it, and has more utility late game with the 8 second cooldown 4 second stun if it lands, potentially on two heroes. WR would be the first hero you would try to replace Mirana with, but like, Leshrac serves better purpose too, and QoP on the side lane, etc. Leshrac is much different then Potm.
Not saying they're the same, just saying you can replace Potm with Leshrac due to better pushing, unreliable stun, and nuke down damage, less right click damage but stronger laner too. And Lesh just fits the current gameplay better than potm
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On May 01 2012 03:53 Hoban wrote:
Can someone explain why CK+Lina is such a good combo? Is it just for the fact that CK has a longish range swap that can be followed by a stun then chained with linas stun? I could see it being a sweet lane in a pub game or something but generally it seems pros know how to avoid cheesy shit like that.
If by avoid cheesy shit, you mean just let the CK farm. Sure. CK's Blink Strike -> Stun -> Chained Stun is how many extra attacks?
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On May 01 2012 03:53 Hoban wrote:
Can someone explain why CK+Lina is such a good combo? Is it just for the fact that CK has a longish range swap that can be followed by a stun then chained with linas stun? I could see it being a sweet lane in a pub game or something but generally it seems pros know how to avoid cheesy shit like that.
They both have very long stuns, you can chain CK's spells into Lina's stun, and Lina isn't farm dependent and has long range auto attack to harass while the CK farms.
But basically (I don't know this for sure, but I'm guessing) you can do CK's blink strike slash stun into lina's stun followed by lots of nuke damage and just eat someone up instagib
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Also consider that LSA having a 7 second CD makes it one of the only support stuns that can keep pace with Reality Rift's incredibly short CD by level 7/8.
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fuck CK, give me PL already... waiting for him for month 
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On May 01 2012 03:20 flamewheel wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 03:06 konadora wrote:On May 01 2012 02:36 Zlasher wrote:
In terms of laning Mirana always goes in the hard lane, and WR is way better than her at it, and has more utility late game with the 8 second cooldown 4 second stun if it lands, potentially on two heroes. WR would be the first hero you would try to replace Mirana with, but like, Leshrac serves better purpose too, and QoP on the side lane, etc. actually now that you mention it, WR is like the better potm My friend wrote an old DC article talking about how WR basically forced Potm into retirement. Chicks on tigers can't beat barefooted archers.
Chick on a tiger gets beat by blonde with big tet tets
also I want to see Terrorblade aswell, ill be interested to see in him being used.
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On May 01 2012 04:30 Kipsate wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 03:20 flamewheel wrote:On May 01 2012 03:06 konadora wrote:On May 01 2012 02:36 Zlasher wrote:
In terms of laning Mirana always goes in the hard lane, and WR is way better than her at it, and has more utility late game with the 8 second cooldown 4 second stun if it lands, potentially on two heroes. WR would be the first hero you would try to replace Mirana with, but like, Leshrac serves better purpose too, and QoP on the side lane, etc. actually now that you mention it, WR is like the better potm My friend wrote an old DC article talking about how WR basically forced Potm into retirement. Chicks on tigers can't beat barefooted archers. Chick on a tiger gets beat by blonde with big tet tets also I want to see Terrorblade aswell, ill be interested to see in him being used.
Whose the blonde? WR is redhead.
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On May 01 2012 04:30 Kipsate wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 03:20 flamewheel wrote:On May 01 2012 03:06 konadora wrote:On May 01 2012 02:36 Zlasher wrote:
In terms of laning Mirana always goes in the hard lane, and WR is way better than her at it, and has more utility late game with the 8 second cooldown 4 second stun if it lands, potentially on two heroes. WR would be the first hero you would try to replace Mirana with, but like, Leshrac serves better purpose too, and QoP on the side lane, etc. actually now that you mention it, WR is like the better potm My friend wrote an old DC article talking about how WR basically forced Potm into retirement. Chicks on tigers can't beat barefooted archers. Chick on a tiger gets beat by blonde with big tet tets also I want to see Terrorblade aswell, ill be interested to see in him being used.
We can't see it well bc of the tiger. That's why she's falling.
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one of those games he has 784 gold/min O.O
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On May 01 2012 04:41 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 04:30 Kipsate wrote:On May 01 2012 03:20 flamewheel wrote:On May 01 2012 03:06 konadora wrote:On May 01 2012 02:36 Zlasher wrote:
In terms of laning Mirana always goes in the hard lane, and WR is way better than her at it, and has more utility late game with the 8 second cooldown 4 second stun if it lands, potentially on two heroes. WR would be the first hero you would try to replace Mirana with, but like, Leshrac serves better purpose too, and QoP on the side lane, etc. actually now that you mention it, WR is like the better potm My friend wrote an old DC article talking about how WR basically forced Potm into retirement. Chicks on tigers can't beat barefooted archers. Chick on a tiger gets beat by blonde with big tet tets also I want to see Terrorblade aswell, ill be interested to see in him being used. Whose the blonde? WR is redhead.
crystal maiden is blonde :p and pretty hot too
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On May 01 2012 05:01 konadora wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 04:41 Numy wrote:On May 01 2012 04:30 Kipsate wrote:On May 01 2012 03:20 flamewheel wrote:On May 01 2012 03:06 konadora wrote:On May 01 2012 02:36 Zlasher wrote:
In terms of laning Mirana always goes in the hard lane, and WR is way better than her at it, and has more utility late game with the 8 second cooldown 4 second stun if it lands, potentially on two heroes. WR would be the first hero you would try to replace Mirana with, but like, Leshrac serves better purpose too, and QoP on the side lane, etc. actually now that you mention it, WR is like the better potm My friend wrote an old DC article talking about how WR basically forced Potm into retirement. Chicks on tigers can't beat barefooted archers. Chick on a tiger gets beat by blonde with big tet tets also I want to see Terrorblade aswell, ill be interested to see in him being used. Whose the blonde? WR is redhead. crystal maiden is blonde :p and pretty hot too
Oh yea but Tiger > Blonde
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