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ZerG~LegenD
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Sweden1179 Posts
January 24 2014 13:55 GMT
#94541
While on the topic of unconventional Invoker items, what do you guys think about Medallion? I've tried it a few times recently with great success. Invoker dishes out a lot of physical damage mid-game and the mana regen lets you be less conservative with your mana. I definitely think it's a worthwhile pick-up if either you or the enemy have physical spell casters like Alchemist or Bristleback. Medallion also lets Invoker solo Roshan on level 10.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
January 24 2014 14:01 GMT
#94542
On January 24 2014 22:55 ZerG~LegenD wrote:
While on the topic of unconventional Invoker items, what do you guys think about Medallion? I've tried it a few times recently with great success. Invoker dishes out a lot of physical damage mid-game and the mana regen lets you be less conservative with your mana. I definitely think it's a worthwhile pick-up if either you or the enemy have physical spell casters like Alchemist or Bristleback. Medallion also lets Invoker solo Roshan on level 10.

Or you could just let someone else on the team get Medallion, and still benefit from it as much.
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Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
January 24 2014 14:03 GMT
#94543
On January 24 2014 20:46 Cool Cat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2014 20:44 govie wrote:
Took me 6 matches to get past broodmother and what a horrible hero she is, but what a feeling when you advance to the next hero in A-Z challenge ranked :D I lost 400 mmr till now, at this rate there will not be much left

im glad you're taking your mmr loss well
i became deeply depressed and quit dota for half a month after losing 100 mmr

User was warned for this post


Why the warning??
Confused
EtherealBlade
Profile Joined August 2010
660 Posts
January 24 2014 14:04 GMT
#94544
On January 24 2014 22:55 ZerG~LegenD wrote:
While on the topic of unconventional Invoker items, what do you guys think about Medallion? I've tried it a few times recently with great success. Invoker dishes out a lot of physical damage mid-game and the mana regen lets you be less conservative with your mana. I definitely think it's a worthwhile pick-up if either you or the enemy have physical spell casters like Alchemist or Bristleback. Medallion also lets Invoker solo Roshan on level 10.


It's pretty much core if you go for the double summons build IMO.
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
January 24 2014 14:10 GMT
#94545
On January 24 2014 22:55 ZerG~LegenD wrote:
While on the topic of unconventional Invoker items, what do you guys think about Medallion? I've tried it a few times recently with great success. Invoker dishes out a lot of physical damage mid-game and the mana regen lets you be less conservative with your mana. I definitely think it's a worthwhile pick-up if either you or the enemy have physical spell casters like Alchemist or Bristleback. Medallion also lets Invoker solo Roshan on level 10.


I remember IceX3 using it + double forge spirits to solo Roshan early, otherwise I don't think it's worth it. Depends on how lategame you're aiming to go of course (since you can go early, mid or lategame with Carl), but if you're not looking for early game aggression then you shouldn't use it. Problem is, QE benefits more from a Medallion but QW is the early game build. TL;DR - no, not worth it.

As for mana conserve - I like to get a casual Sobi Mask (which I eventually turn into a Euls), or just turning it into a Basi ring. Invoker really doesn't need the mana regen early game.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
January 24 2014 14:15 GMT
#94546
On January 24 2014 23:03 Laurens wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2014 20:46 Cool Cat wrote:
On January 24 2014 20:44 govie wrote:
Took me 6 matches to get past broodmother and what a horrible hero she is, but what a feeling when you advance to the next hero in A-Z challenge ranked :D I lost 400 mmr till now, at this rate there will not be much left

im glad you're taking your mmr loss well
i became deeply depressed and quit dota for half a month after losing 100 mmr

User was warned for this post


Why the warning??
Confused

Edited to make it clear.
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Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
January 24 2014 14:44 GMT
#94547
firebolt putting that hammer to work
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
January 24 2014 14:46 GMT
#94548
On January 24 2014 23:44 Targe wrote:
feederbolt putting that hammer to work


edited to make it clear
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
January 24 2014 14:50 GMT
#94549
On January 24 2014 22:42 Xypski wrote:
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On January 24 2014 11:40 teddyoojo wrote:
On January 24 2014 11:13 FuzzyJAM wrote:
On January 24 2014 11:05 teddyoojo wrote:
On January 24 2014 10:33 trifecta wrote:
On January 24 2014 10:19 Erasme wrote:
Only singsing gets mek on invoker. Definitely one of the worse mid to buy mek on lmao


uh so did icex3 in the g league finals

also fata started it
On January 24 2014 10:59 Erasme wrote:
On January 24 2014 10:33 cecek wrote:
Fata goes mek on invoker in official games very often. I haven't seen singsing do it.

Fata is a weird mid and singsing is a bad invoker. As for ice3 how many times did he buy it ? On how many invoker games ?

fata is a really good mid tho (also his mek on dk wtf) and singsing is a pretty terrible mid

i just want necrobook/mek to stop on invoker its so cancerous


How so?

hes just not as good as the competition (i think he would be way better on offlane, his clock and mirana are terribly strong)


I hate when people say shit like this. Singsing is a really good player, fucking look at how little the man dies in comp games.


Yeah, I don't really get it.

Sing is generally the key to Speed's success which is why a lot of teams focus on shutting him down in the laning stage.
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babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
January 24 2014 15:04 GMT
#94550
I actually feel he's more stable than arteezy on farming mid heroes like sf, od. People just assume he's better at playing playing tempo based heroes, just because he's a god on mirana. But then again, his team keeps drafting him those heroes =/
RaelSan
Profile Joined February 2012
Belgium223 Posts
January 24 2014 15:14 GMT
#94551
On January 25 2014 00:04 babysimba wrote:
I actually feel he's more stable than arteezy on farming mid heroes like sf, od. People just assume he's better at playing playing tempo based heroes, just because he's a god on mirana. But then again, his team keeps drafting him those heroes =/


I have a different opinion on Sing, IMO he is a bit like Dendi, decent ( even meh sometimes ) in lane but really good mid game and able to lead his team to victory.
Except Dendi is a bit more suicidal and ready to commit, whereas Sing can be praised or attacked because he doesn't take much risks, doesn't join a lost fight and so doesnt die a lot ( I've seen him going 8-1 and still losing the game in comp ) .

But he s still a very good mid, and one of the strongest players in Speed, but I feel like he has no good hero except Mirana in this meta, he's not the best with classic mid heroes ( SF,OD,puck,...), Kunkka tiny and shit feel a bit out of place mid atm and you just can't play mirana every game
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 24 2014 15:17 GMT
#94552
On January 25 2014 00:14 RaelSan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 00:04 babysimba wrote:
I actually feel he's more stable than arteezy on farming mid heroes like sf, od. People just assume he's better at playing playing tempo based heroes, just because he's a god on mirana. But then again, his team keeps drafting him those heroes =/


I have a different opinion on Sing, IMO he is a bit like Dendi, decent ( even meh sometimes ) in lane but really good mid game and able to lead his team to victory.
Except Dendi is a bit more suicidal and ready to commit, whereas Sing can be praised or attacked because he doesn't take much risks, doesn't join a lost fight and so doesnt die a lot ( I've seen him going 8-1 and still losing the game in comp ) .

But he s still a very good mid, and one of the strongest players in Speed, but I feel like he has no good hero except Mirana in this meta, he's not the best with classic mid heroes ( SF,OD,puck,...), Kunkka tiny and shit feel a bit out of place mid atm and you just can't play mirana every game

Dendi is one of the best laners in the game.

Bad example.
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Delphiki
Profile Joined October 2012
Philippines1955 Posts
January 24 2014 15:31 GMT
#94553
On January 25 2014 00:17 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 00:14 RaelSan wrote:
On January 25 2014 00:04 babysimba wrote:
I actually feel he's more stable than arteezy on farming mid heroes like sf, od. People just assume he's better at playing playing tempo based heroes, just because he's a god on mirana. But then again, his team keeps drafting him those heroes =/


I have a different opinion on Sing, IMO he is a bit like Dendi, decent ( even meh sometimes ) in lane but really good mid game and able to lead his team to victory.
Except Dendi is a bit more suicidal and ready to commit, whereas Sing can be praised or attacked because he doesn't take much risks, doesn't join a lost fight and so doesnt die a lot ( I've seen him going 8-1 and still losing the game in comp ) .

But he s still a very good mid, and one of the strongest players in Speed, but I feel like he has no good hero except Mirana in this meta, he's not the best with classic mid heroes ( SF,OD,puck,...), Kunkka tiny and shit feel a bit out of place mid atm and you just can't play mirana every game

Dendi is one of the best laners in the game.

Bad example.

i think sing is much more like s4 than dendi
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
January 24 2014 15:54 GMT
#94554
On January 25 2014 00:31 Delphiki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2014 00:17 Comeh wrote:
On January 25 2014 00:14 RaelSan wrote:
On January 25 2014 00:04 babysimba wrote:
I actually feel he's more stable than arteezy on farming mid heroes like sf, od. People just assume he's better at playing playing tempo based heroes, just because he's a god on mirana. But then again, his team keeps drafting him those heroes =/


I have a different opinion on Sing, IMO he is a bit like Dendi, decent ( even meh sometimes ) in lane but really good mid game and able to lead his team to victory.
Except Dendi is a bit more suicidal and ready to commit, whereas Sing can be praised or attacked because he doesn't take much risks, doesn't join a lost fight and so doesnt die a lot ( I've seen him going 8-1 and still losing the game in comp ) .

But he s still a very good mid, and one of the strongest players in Speed, but I feel like he has no good hero except Mirana in this meta, he's not the best with classic mid heroes ( SF,OD,puck,...), Kunkka tiny and shit feel a bit out of place mid atm and you just can't play mirana every game

Dendi is one of the best laners in the game.

Bad example.

i think sing is much more like s4 than dendi


Sing is sing, not s4.
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MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
January 24 2014 16:01 GMT
#94555
DEAR GOD firebolt is a mod now....brace yourselves !
"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
January 24 2014 16:09 GMT
#94556
Dendi at 23,000 viewers right now on Twitch...I think that's the highest I've seen for an individual streamer. Is that normal for him?

Regardless, it's nuts.
Incze
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Romania2058 Posts
January 24 2014 16:11 GMT
#94557
He's been way higher than this, but it's pretty normal.
24k now
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42414 Posts
January 24 2014 16:12 GMT
#94558
On January 25 2014 01:09 ZasZ. wrote:
Dendi at 23,000 viewers right now on Twitch...I think that's the highest I've seen for an individual streamer. Is that normal for him?

Regardless, it's nuts.


That has been pretty normal (or close to 20k) for him lately. Not even close to being a record anything like that.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
January 24 2014 16:12 GMT
#94559
He reaches 50k casual most of the time. I am surprised he is that low.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
January 24 2014 16:18 GMT
#94560
I've seen Dendi reach ~35k or so but never over 40k, let alone 50k casually. :/
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