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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
There may be such games, but I wouldn't know. | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
so wheres the counter to nagasleep into blackhole? like u cant dodge that one wheres the counterplay | ||
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Excludos
Norway8278 Posts
On January 20 2014 17:41 teddyoojo wrote: no possible counterplay to a simple sleep+icepath so wheres the counter to nagasleep into blackhole? like u cant dodge that one wheres the counterplay The counterplay to naga black-hole is stunning Enigma. That is in fact the counterplay to the entirety of enigma and a huge reason why he's not being played much in pro plays right now. If you get caught all 5 close enough together in naga song to get caught my one single blackhole, you deserve that wipe. | ||
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Excludos
Norway8278 Posts
On January 20 2014 17:25 teddyoojo wrote: just because its a feature and not a but doesnt make it good or reasonable I just said why it was both good and reasonable. Having a be all end all ability is NOT good for this game. Everything is counterable in some way, or else that hero would be in all ways imaginable, broken. That is exactly why naga was picked 100% of all games in TI2, because with her + ds + somekind of aoe stun, there was no counter (except bad play which IG did vs Na'vi in "the play"). | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
wrong | ||
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Excludos
Norway8278 Posts
On January 20 2014 17:58 teddyoojo wrote: ur wrong wrong Good day sir. | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
now if we were talking about some other moba u could make an argument for that | ||
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SkelA
Macedonia13085 Posts
That game was anyoing as fuck but they lost it because prophet was splitpushing most of the time and never really group up as 5 and i played kotl which works great vs those mass push strats, dunno why its a forgotten hero in pro matches. Anyway we had a gyro and he was farmed as fuck, he almost died to 3 necros dying will if i didnt used mek in between. Necro needs a small nerf, its a really strong item and games are boring because of that. Maybe they should change the pure 600 dmg to magical. That might do the trick of balancing that item. | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
On January 20 2014 19:10 SkelA wrote: Yesterday had a game where our oponents had veno , pugna , qop, shaman , prophet and they got 5 NECROS. On our team we had 2 necros aswell. This shit has to stop... That game was anyoing as fuck but they lost it because prophet was splitpushing most of the time and never really group up as 5 and i played kotl which works great vs those mass push strats, dunno why its a forgotten hero in pro matches. Anyway we had a gyro and he was farmed as fuck, he almost died to 3 necros dying will if i didnt used mek in between. Necro needs a small nerf, its a really strong item and games are boring because of that. Maybe they should change the pure 600 dmg to magical. That might do the trick of balancing that item. have fun kotl blasting 5 necro3's :D:D | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On January 20 2014 19:01 FinestHour wrote: woah guys dota has plenty of counter play now if we were talking about some other moba u could make an argument for that don't we call it superior moba because no fun mechanics aren't allowed? | ||
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AwfuL_
Netherlands6976 Posts
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Excludos
Norway8278 Posts
On January 20 2014 19:35 AwfuL_ wrote: I honestly think Necro should have be limited to one per team, or have a longass stock timer like Gem. One of the things that makes necro so amazing is that it lets you break T3 highground, which previously have been too difficult. I'm all for comebacks, but a team that is far ahead in gold and xp should not have this much trouble. Right now necro is the only thing that lets them do this for a reasonable price. If you nerf that, they need to add some other way of doing it as well (a combination would be good) | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
On January 20 2014 19:35 AwfuL_ wrote: I honestly think Necro should have be limited to one per team, or have a longass stock timer like Gem. one of the things that should be copied from hon, yes make necro recipes like a new one every 5 minutes, you can still have ur necro3 at 15 and 2 necro3's at 30 no need to have 5 necro3s there | ||
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Cool Cat
United States1644 Posts
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idonthinksobro
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On January 20 2014 17:21 Excludos wrote: Why not? Thats a feature, not a bug. Naga song shouldn't be some kind of be all end all you will always die kind of thing. Remember the IT2 back when you could vacuum people while under song? How ridiculous strong it was? Everyone and their dog picked her, and it was honestly really boring to watch. I'm completely ok with some things being counterable with certain items in this game. The reason it works that way is that icepath is not really a stun and only works if you are in the actual icepath. If you get forcestaffed out the stun ends, and you can walk into icepath at the middle of the duration and you still get stunned untill it is over. To make it interact that way it has to reapply the stun. I highly doubt that they intentionally designed it that you can bkb dodge an icepath after a naga sleep. | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
On January 20 2014 19:15 TheKefka wrote: don't we call it superior moba because no fun mechanics aren't allowed? no its superior cos everything not-fun has been patched out | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On January 20 2014 20:32 idonthinksobro wrote: The reason it works that way is that icepath is not really a stun and only works if you are in the actual icepath. If you get forcestaffed out the stun ends, and you can walk into icepath at the middle of the duration and you still get stunned untill it is over. To make it interact that way it has to reapply the stun. I highly doubt that they intentionally designed it that you can bkb dodge an icepath after a naga sleep. The devs didn't mean for stacking and pulling to be a thing, but they didn't patch it out when people found it. This may be a trick people found and if your good enough and know to draft that line up with Naga, more power to you. Or we could ask for the game to be like superior Moba and have this patched out. | ||
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idonthinksobro
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
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