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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
On January 15 2014 08:02 teddyoojo wrote: terrible advice, nice u learn how to lasthit with 40 dmg luckily its utterly irrelevant if you can lasthit with 40 dmg or not just play normal situations most people's problem is last hitting to early so this solves that | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Most of the actual difficulty in last-hitting in a real game comes from the fact that harassment between the two players causes creep aggro to get mucked up making damage to be dealt to creeps at a very inconsistent rate. Lasthitting 1v0 essentially means that the creeps basically are doing a consistent amount of damage, and therefore when you have to hit each creep is very predictable. Bots are slightly better but still tend to act in fairly predictable patterns (though I would say that the majority of the playerbase tends to play lanes as poorly or worse than the bots anyway so this could be good enough for really new players). The only way you can really learn to lasthit in the scenario of creep aggro constantly shifting due to players issuing attack orders on each other (this includes not just actual harassment, but also the standard trick of melee heroes a-clicking the enemy hero to draw aggro so the creeps are closer to them) is to do it. Lasthitting 1v0 does't help this, and if you get too comfortable with the rate at which creeps do damage in a vacuum, it can even be detrimental. | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
On January 15 2014 08:32 teddyoojo wrote: and then they will start lasthitting too late too often doing that tripled the cs i was able to get by 10 mins, its definitely worth doing to start off learning to last hit | ||
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
On January 15 2014 08:41 Targe wrote: doing that tripled the cs i was able to get by 10 mins, its definitely worth doing to start off learning to last hit why dont u just do that with 60 (about what you normally have) dmg instead of 40 will stop u from lasthitting too early aswell but wont make u lasthit too late ??? | ||
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RoyGBiv_13
United States1275 Posts
Free farm safe lane with two supports zoning offlaner? 50 cs at 6 minutes, 100 at 10 minutes contested farm safe lane? 70 cs 10 minutes so on and so forth. I try to increase my goals after I'm capable of making them reliably. I count a hero kill as 5-10 cs. I play almost exclusively alch for my carry.... If you meet early goal, you usually exceed your midgame goals (AC/midas/phase) at 18 minutes If you can match your midgame goals, then stretch for endgame goals: 800 GPM minimum, fully slotted 30 minutes in. | ||
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
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Gevna
France2332 Posts
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
On January 15 2014 09:06 RoyGBiv_13 wrote: I set standard goals for my CS each game depending on the lane. Free farm safe lane with two supports zoning offlaner? 50 cs at 6 minutes, 100 at 10 minutes contested farm safe lane? 70 cs 10 minutes so on and so forth. I try to increase my goals after I'm capable of making them reliably. I count a hero kill as 5-10 cs. I play almost exclusively alch for my carry.... If you meet early goal, you usually exceed your midgame goals (AC/midas/phase) at 18 minutes If you can match your midgame goals, then stretch for endgame goals: 800 GPM minimum, fully slotted 30 minutes in. 100 cs 10 min dude u high | ||
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BallinWitStalin
1177 Posts
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Zozo
Brazil2579 Posts
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
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IAmThEnd
United States111 Posts
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
On January 15 2014 09:30 BallinWitStalin wrote: Is steam fuckin up for anyone else? isn't today the maintenance day? well for AUS server it's down the whole day today. also. 100cs at 10minutes, is that even possible without neutrals? | ||
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Zozo
Brazil2579 Posts
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Jaeger
United States1150 Posts
On January 15 2014 09:38 Doraemon wrote: isn't today the maintenance day? well for AUS server it's down the whole day today. also. 100cs at 10minutes, is that even possible without neutrals? IIRC 78 is perfect lane cs @ 10m | ||
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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