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Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
December 29 2013 12:34 GMT
#92261
So we've settled in with the patch but have you guys warmed up to the buyback change at all where you can't get unreliable gold? Like it's sometimes in my blood to rage back.
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
December 29 2013 12:40 GMT
#92262
Also wtf is that bug where you can see an attack projectile even in fog. It's actually retarder, Mirana/Nature's Prophet attacking jungle creeps was visible in separate instances.
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
December 29 2013 13:00 GMT
#92263
On December 29 2013 21:34 Kuroeeah wrote:
So we've settled in with the patch but have you guys warmed up to the buyback change at all where you can't get unreliable gold? Like it's sometimes in my blood to rage back.


I love it. It teaches restraint and abstinence. JUST LIKE REAL LIFE!

On December 29 2013 21:40 Kuroeeah wrote:
Also wtf is that bug where you can see an attack projectile even in fog. It's actually retarder, Mirana/Nature's Prophet attacking jungle creeps was visible in separate instances.


Haven't seen that yet. Hmm. Should roam my cam when I'm dead.
(._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) They see me rolling. They hating.
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
December 29 2013 13:07 GMT
#92264
I have been able to see the rosh spawn flash thing couple times in fog
wairai
Profile Joined May 2012
Malaysia1000 Posts
December 29 2013 15:39 GMT
#92265
I still hate the bug from repicking hero. Less moneh for repicking random than usual repicking
Yungin' Leanin' with Pourple Drink
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
December 29 2013 16:06 GMT
#92266
I really wonder if people are satisfied that there's ranked matchmaking in Dota 2 now. I have a feeling that the same people who were saying "I want to see my actual skill level and my progression, I will get that from ladder/ranked MM" are the people who are now bitching about ranked and saying that they're placed lower than they should be.
super gg
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 29 2013 16:18 GMT
#92267
On December 30 2013 01:06 cecek wrote:
I really wonder if people are satisfied that there's ranked matchmaking in Dota 2 now. I have a feeling that the same people who were saying "I want to see my actual skill level and my progression, I will get that from ladder/ranked MM" are the people who are now bitching about ranked and saying that they're placed lower than they should be.

"Be careful what you wish for," is pretty much the moral of ranked match making. Shockingly, it did not create a utopia of Dota where all tryhards can play like Na'vi every game.
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swedewannabe
Profile Joined December 2013
Sweden28 Posts
December 29 2013 16:55 GMT
#92268
Ranked mm is pretty good for solo q. However when 5 stacking the q takes forever, I wish they would add an option to q for both unranked and ranked at the sametime.
Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
December 29 2013 17:10 GMT
#92269
On December 30 2013 01:06 cecek wrote:
I really wonder if people are satisfied that there's ranked matchmaking in Dota 2 now. I have a feeling that the same people who were saying "I want to see my actual skill level and my progression, I will get that from ladder/ranked MM" are the people who are now bitching about ranked and saying that they're placed lower than they should be.

Yea probably not, I can now understand Valve. They took so much time to implement visible mmr just because of how a simple number can affect people's mentalities so much ~_~

But then again there's no 700+ comment threads on reddit to remove visible rating... ~
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
Aixler
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands946 Posts
December 29 2013 17:11 GMT
#92270
Ranked match making has been great so far. Overall, my games have been much better than before. There has been a noticeable improvement in both communication and teamwork.
[]Phase[]
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium927 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-29 17:54:48
December 29 2013 17:54 GMT
#92271
I'm happy with rated MM. Now I can use unranked to fool around in, and in rated I can work on improving myself.
MidgetExplosion
Profile Joined February 2013
United States137 Posts
December 29 2013 18:38 GMT
#92272
My buddy was also telling me the same thing, he said his Ranked games were much more serious and less QQing. Which sounds pretty nice, though I tend to have really bad luck with that sort of thing so I'm still a bit scared to start my placements...
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
December 29 2013 18:39 GMT
#92273
On December 30 2013 01:06 cecek wrote:
I really wonder if people are satisfied that there's ranked matchmaking in Dota 2 now. I have a feeling that the same people who were saying "I want to see my actual skill level and my progression, I will get that from ladder/ranked MM" are the people who are now bitching about ranked and saying that they're placed lower than they should be.


Am I happy there is a ranked matchmaking in the game now ? Yes.
Am I satisfied by it ? No.
Why ? Because whoever had the idea to allow stacks of 2-3-4 people in ranked MM is a retard and should be fired.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-29 18:57:51
December 29 2013 18:46 GMT
#92274
ahahaha russian region defo ahead of everyone, pentacore all the way.
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(i was the first pick and i did solo hardlane spec plus supporting the team (1ward 3-5 sentries and then 1 gem, and look at that LH LOL) The dire had this game in early but for whatever reason they keep making 3/4 men pubtrain and furi was the biggest victim


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'BurningSera's adventure in the russian wonderland'.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
MidgetExplosion
Profile Joined February 2013
United States137 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-29 18:50:01
December 29 2013 18:47 GMT
#92275
On December 30 2013 03:39 BlitzerSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2013 01:06 cecek wrote:
I really wonder if people are satisfied that there's ranked matchmaking in Dota 2 now. I have a feeling that the same people who were saying "I want to see my actual skill level and my progression, I will get that from ladder/ranked MM" are the people who are now bitching about ranked and saying that they're placed lower than they should be.


Am I happy there is a ranked matchmaking in the game now ? Yes.
Am I satisfied by it ? No.
Why ? Because whoever had the idea to allow stacks of 2-3-4 people in ranked MM is a retard and should be fired.


Meh, I agree to some extent. Though a lot of time you play with or against a stack of 3-4 it's almost like playing a game 3v5 or 4v5 cuz the 1 or 2 random people that get put on your team do nothing to help all game and you lose, haha... Or the other team gets that and you win. In my experience queuing with 1-2 people or all 5 is much more even. 3-4 always seems like a really hard fought battle if it's your team, and easy if it's there's. 3 is just awful, always feels like the 3 of you are all on the same page trying hard to win and the other two are just off doing whatever... I lose SO many games 3 stacked... Just my personal experience, though.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
December 29 2013 18:55 GMT
#92276
Do you people actually run into something extreme like 5x solo against a fivestack or something? So far I've seen it be very equal every time... 4+1 vs 3+2, 1+2+2 vs 3+1+1, 5x solo vs 1+1+1+2 etc. All of which are perfectly fine, imo.

I honestly would like to see screenshots of the extremely unfair matchups you people are whining about.
super gg
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-29 19:00:44
December 29 2013 18:59 GMT
#92277
5x solo vs. 5-stack should be fine because of how party MMR being separate from solo MMR means the 5-stack's MMR is appropriately adjusted. You get a shittier 5-stack against stronger individual players and it eventually works.

The problem with stacks is 2- or 3-stacks that have a really wide MMR spread which makes it hard to match a good game. Which is not really a problem exclusive to ranked.
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MidgetExplosion
Profile Joined February 2013
United States137 Posts
December 29 2013 19:02 GMT
#92278
On December 30 2013 03:55 cecek wrote:
Do you people actually run into something extreme like 5x solo against a fivestack or something? So far I've seen it be very equal every time... 4+1 vs 3+2, 1+2+2 vs 3+1+1, 5x solo vs 1+1+1+2 etc. All of which are perfectly fine, imo.

I honestly would like to see screenshots of the extremely unfair matchups you people are whining about.


I would be fine with all these as well as long as I won. If I lost, then it was bullshit!

:D
MidgetExplosion
Profile Joined February 2013
United States137 Posts
December 29 2013 19:04 GMT
#92279
On December 30 2013 03:59 TheYango wrote:
5x solo vs. 5-stack should be fine because of how party MMR being separate from solo MMR means the 5-stack's MMR is appropriately adjusted. You get a shittier 5-stack against stronger individual players and it eventually works.

The problem with stacks is 2- or 3-stacks that have a really wide MMR spread which makes it hard to match a good game. Which is not really a problem exclusive to ranked.


They would have to really compensate for a 5-stack vs 5x solo... It's crazy how much teamwork gives you an advantage in DOTA, it's really really crazy how much that effects the outcome of a game.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
December 29 2013 19:23 GMT
#92280
Yeah, you can't really compensate that much. The MMR only tells you as much. I think making sure there are more or less the same amount of parties on each side is the best way to go about things. And based on what I saw that is how the sstem is working.
super gg
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