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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
December 12 2013 19:51 GMT
#90381
if they delay the ranked patch cuz of fucking lc ill be so mad
patch needs to come next 3 hours
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-12 20:02:03
December 12 2013 19:56 GMT
#90382
This bug is not even as important as other things that have been broken for quite a while. Meepo clones not getting XP ruins the hero and it's not like they stopped patching to fix the bug. It has been on the bugs list for like a month. I would expect the patch to hit with or without a fix for LC.

Nvm, the Meepo bug was fixed, dev.dota just forgot to remove it from the list it seems. Still, plenty of heroes have been released in a very under or overpowered state because of bugs.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
December 12 2013 20:03 GMT
#90383
Valve just has no QA department this kind of stuff always happens with them.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 12 2013 20:04 GMT
#90384
We are valve's QA department huehuehue
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
December 12 2013 20:07 GMT
#90385
The test client should have been used for this sort of thing, but I think they realized people would rather have a quicker but buggier release, so they turned down the wait time to a single day, just to catch major bugs.
NotYango
Profile Joined December 2013
United States719 Posts
December 12 2013 20:36 GMT
#90386
TBH the most annoying bug of late to me is still the random->repick gold bug.

It's the only one that consistently affects me in a large percentage of games.
yango pls
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
December 12 2013 20:44 GMT
#90387
On December 13 2013 05:36 NotYango wrote:
TBH the most annoying bug of late to me is still the random->repick gold bug.

It's the only one that consistently affects me in a large percentage of games.

you harp on that a lot. but just man up and stop repicking
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
December 12 2013 20:44 GMT
#90388
it is a major bug. LC is CRIPPLED currently.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
December 12 2013 20:49 GMT
#90389
For how long was Bat crippled in Dota 2? For how long was Lanaya OP in Dota 2? DS will probally forever have an advantage in Dota 2. Yes, she is significantly worse, no, it doesn't break the game. I honestly still don't expect her to have a much worse winrate than other heroes currently ingame even if she is released as she is. While it is a major bug for that hero, it isn't such a big deal for the game overall.
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
December 12 2013 20:57 GMT
#90390
no i mean actually unplayable. Like you can't play LC the way she was meant to be played

thats a big deal
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
NotYango
Profile Joined December 2013
United States719 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-12 20:58:42
December 12 2013 20:57 GMT
#90391
TBH this implementation is not as bad as people make it out to be.

While it's true that this version creates scenarios where you don't get a proc at all, it's equally often that you get TWO full attacks at max IAS because if the 0.5s buff applies right at the end of the an attack, you'll get the increased IAS for one full attack and the start of the next attack--which will carry through the entire following attack because of the AS bug.

On average this means that for damage, MoC is equivalent to the WC3 DotA version of the skill because the times where you get 2 full attacks of max IAS cancel out the times where you get no extra attacks--the problem is that with this implementation, the amount of lifesteal you get is totally fucked:
- If you do not get an attack during MoC, you do not get ANY lifesteal
- If you get 2 attacks during MoC, the skill is currently coded to only give you lifesteal on one of those attacks.

Basically if Valve just always guarantees that MoC gives you the lifesteal for at least one attack and allows double lifesteal on the case where you get the AS buff on 2 attacks, it would be functionally different, but essentially equivalent to the WC3 functionality.
yango pls
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-12 20:58:38
December 12 2013 20:57 GMT
#90392
On December 13 2013 05:57 Shaella wrote:
no i mean actually unplayable. Like you can't play LC the way she was meant to be played

thats a big deal

She was played as a lane hero as well.

"Meant" to be played is a very strong statement.
NotYango
Profile Joined December 2013
United States719 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-12 21:03:49
December 12 2013 21:00 GMT
#90393
- Fixed attacks sometimes not happening with Moment of Courage

Ok now lets see how they changed it, lol.

EDIT: Proccing MoC while not attacking anything crashes the game LOL
yango pls
iv~nk~j
Profile Joined August 2012
1140 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-12 21:02:38
December 12 2013 21:02 GMT
#90394
On December 13 2013 06:00 NotYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
- Fixed attacks sometimes not happening with Moment of Courage

Ok now lets see how they changed it, lol.

they changed it so that the game just completely crashes if MoC proccs lol

this progression is kind of hilarious
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
December 12 2013 21:04 GMT
#90395
No, it doens't crash if MoC procs

it crashes if MoC procs and there's nothing you can hit nearby, so ranged shit crashes the game now, lol

Otherwise the new implementation works a lot better
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
December 12 2013 21:07 GMT
#90396
dev forum is so rofl
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-12 21:08:32
December 12 2013 21:08 GMT
#90397
Well looks like i'm saved from having to agonize over the patch being out and me stuck at work LOL.

Valve pls.
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
December 12 2013 21:10 GMT
#90398
On December 13 2013 06:08 Sn0_Man wrote:
Well looks like i'm saved from having to agonize over the patch being out and me stuck at work LOL.

Valve pls.


They still have four or five hours until standard release time. Releasing with a disabled or broken hero would be pretty sad, although you can't exactly delay the event after you announce when it is starting either.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-12 21:13:16
December 12 2013 21:12 GMT
#90399
They have definitely released patches around this time of day where I'm stuck at work for hours while others play lol.

Anyway, I think valve's master plan is to make the arcana LC work properly with MoC so that more people buy the arcana item. Thoughts?

PS: The "Exalted" quality on the new arcana is clearly a subliminal message to all PoE players.
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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-12 21:22:18
December 12 2013 21:19 GMT
#90400
rofl valve cannot release new patch before this mess is fixed, that nice poster of the Arcana item for LC rofl.

oh and that annoucement on 12/12/13 to be the patch date. omg valve is in big trouble ahahaha. now frostivus is really getting cancelled rofl.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
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