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Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
October 28 2013 17:41 GMT
#84221
Dreadisback with 17k viewers, i wish i spoke russian
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
October 28 2013 17:45 GMT
#84222
On October 29 2013 02:38 trinxified wrote:
Lol all this midas talk was a nice read... Let's talk about Necro3 now.

Seems like games now are a race to how many books you can get, and even better if your heroes synergizes with it. Whoever has more generally will win.

I don't know if I agree with this, it depends on context.

I don't think Necrobook is that good of an item in terms of contributing to team fights for it's cost (level 2 and especially level 3). Enmassing Necrobooks puts the defending team (from a push or preparation for breaching the racks) into an uncomfortable position of having to engage in the attacking team's terms or they risk just losing their structures.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 28 2013 17:47 GMT
#84223
How does blademail interact with Necrobook death damage? Does it go to the enemy hero?

If so, SUICIDE ES BOMBZ
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Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
October 28 2013 17:47 GMT
#84224
On October 29 2013 02:41 Jetaap wrote:
Dreadisback with 17k viewers, i wish i spoke russian


All the Russian streams get huge numbers, kind of makes me wish I spoke Russian as well, feel like I am missing out.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
October 28 2013 17:53 GMT
#84225
On October 29 2013 02:47 Esoterikk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2013 02:41 Jetaap wrote:
Dreadisback with 17k viewers, i wish i spoke russian


All the Russian streams get huge numbers, kind of makes me wish I spoke Russian as well, feel like I am missing out.


or you could also say that Russians generally love to just watch their hometown streamers instead of playing the game.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-28 17:56:58
October 28 2013 17:56 GMT
#84226
On October 29 2013 02:38 trinxified wrote:
Lol all this midas talk was a nice read... Let's talk about Necro3 now.

Seems like games now are a race to how many books you can get, and even better if your heroes synergizes with it. Whoever has more generally will win.

I have a feeling in my gut IF will revert the buff to Necro soonish, or change it in some way.
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RoyGBiv_13
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1275 Posts
October 28 2013 17:57 GMT
#84227
On October 29 2013 02:38 Kuroeeah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2013 02:35 RoyGBiv_13 wrote:
Maxing fissure takes more mana. Go boots first and max aftershock.

boots first ES, wat.


Don't knock it until you've tried it. It's so far out of the metagame that lanes simply crumble.
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LSF
Profile Joined April 2012
469 Posts
October 28 2013 17:58 GMT
#84228
On October 29 2013 02:47 Esoterikk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2013 02:41 Jetaap wrote:
Dreadisback with 17k viewers, i wish i spoke russian


All the Russian streams get huge numbers, kind of makes me wish I spoke Russian as well, feel like I am missing out.


Come play on EU west, you will learn some important russian words in no time...
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 28 2013 18:04 GMT
#84229
On October 29 2013 02:38 Kuroeeah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2013 02:35 RoyGBiv_13 wrote:
Maxing fissure takes more mana. Go boots first and max aftershock.

boots first ES, wat.

Boots first with random gold is reasonable on any support that has roaming kill potential in pubs. After that it comes down to your execution.
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trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-28 18:06:10
October 28 2013 18:05 GMT
#84230
On October 29 2013 02:56 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2013 02:38 trinxified wrote:
Lol all this midas talk was a nice read... Let's talk about Necro3 now.

Seems like games now are a race to how many books you can get, and even better if your heroes synergizes with it. Whoever has more generally will win.

I have a feeling in my gut IF will revert the buff to Necro soonish, or change it in some way.


Reverting it back to HotD/Midas countering it is bad though. Hopefully it's a different nerf. I think removing last will damage from melee Necro might be good? At least you don't have to think twice about killing it ASAP. Or if they insist on leaving that, at least make it that it's halved between the two Necro units.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 28 2013 18:13 GMT
#84231
If he wants to nerf it, I think he should revert the 6.78 buff to their armor type.
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Darkren
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1841 Posts
October 28 2013 18:17 GMT
#84232
These fucking mass midas in chinesse metagames

They hurt my eyes so much.

WTF DOES A MIDAS ON A BOUNTY DO
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trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
October 28 2013 18:19 GMT
#84233
On October 29 2013 03:13 TheYango wrote:
If he wants to nerf it, I think he should revert the 6.78 buff to their armor type.


I think Necro book strength is from those melee warriors. Can't just kill them outright because of the last will pure damage.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-28 18:21:12
October 28 2013 18:19 GMT
#84234
On October 29 2013 03:19 trinxified wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2013 03:13 TheYango wrote:
If he wants to nerf it, I think he should revert the 6.78 buff to their armor type.


I think Necro book strength is from those melee warriors. Can't just kill them outright because of the last will pure damage.

I'm ok with a single Necro being strong, the main thing about this version is how good the item is in multiples, which has a lot to do with how multiple Necros are very unlikely to die to incidental AoE damage with 40% magic resistance.

On October 29 2013 03:17 Darkren wrote:
WTF DOES A MIDAS ON A BOUNTY DO

Lets him kill a hard camp without taking ages.
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Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
October 28 2013 18:22 GMT
#84235
Does anyone feel there's more at risk in team fighting overall in comparison to before? Like the game is much more "streaky" then it was before because of the gold income you gain from having one as well as ending one (the later feels like an almost half ass attempt at making sure game's don't become too snowbally). Like my racks feels endangered really early in the game relative to before. This patch to me makes it so that there's less room for error (I really want to emphasize this particular point specifically, is this good for the game?).

Is there a mid game anymore? I'm pretty serious about this as well.

I'm not trying to be a downer, I like several of the changes but I feel 6.79 has taken something away from the game. I just have a hard time of explaining what exactly it is..
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
October 28 2013 18:37 GMT
#84236
Having godlike streaks now seems to be a major disadvantage because when you get killed, it's 1000+ gold to the killer. It's crazy.
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
October 28 2013 18:49 GMT
#84237
On October 29 2013 03:37 trinxified wrote:
Having godlike streaks now seems to be a major disadvantage because when you get killed, it's 1000+ gold to the killer. It's crazy.

This goes back to my point that there's more at stake in winning and losing team fights as well as avoiding getting picked off. There is less margin for error.
Nocticate
Profile Joined May 2013
Vatican City State2902 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-28 19:15:07
October 28 2013 19:14 GMT
#84238
On October 29 2013 03:17 Darkren wrote:
These fucking mass midas in chinesse metagames

They hurt my eyes so much.

WTF DOES A MIDAS ON A BOUNTY DO


it gives him tons of exp. more exp -> more levels and he does pretty good things with levels. more track gold, more shuri toss damage, longer stealth duration and lower fade time, and more crit.
midas has stopped being about gold for most heroes, and never really was for furion or druid or n'aix--or even alchemist to a decent extent.
Chairman Mao tells us imperialist Dota is a paper tiger
hideo
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1641 Posts
October 28 2013 19:16 GMT
#84239
I wonder if Zet will make it into the game before a nerfhammer drops. Want to witness the qq.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
October 28 2013 19:25 GMT
#84240
On October 29 2013 03:17 Darkren wrote:
These fucking mass midas in chinesse metagames

They hurt my eyes so much.

WTF DOES A MIDAS ON A BOUNTY DO

It gives you faster levels.

I'm not convinced that it's generally worth it, but given that Bounty's primary contribution (at least for the first 20-30 minutes) is item-independent, getting something that boosts his levels and gets that all important level 2/3 of track can be helpful.
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