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PardonYou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1360 Posts
October 16 2013 16:08 GMT
#82701
People are actually playing ET? I felt like I was the only one last I played and I like timber. Side question: is not being on in awhile what got me kicked out of the TL guild? Or is there another way to find people to play with that isn't in the spam-fest TL chat channel?
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
October 16 2013 16:11 GMT
#82702
In my opinion, ET is the second most broken hero in the pool right now (behind bat, wisp in there somewhere as well)
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Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-16 16:20:52
October 16 2013 16:13 GMT
#82703
I still think people that were searching their personal games as some sort of skill barometer was quite silly but I'm not willing to argue about it.

I have noticed a significant drop in terms of the quality of games I would get but I don't really know if it's just in my head though (I'm aware they changed the MM search algorithm). Theres still some fun to be had in solo queueing and occasionally run into pros/good players.

On October 17 2013 01:11 Comeh wrote:
In my opinion, ET is the second most broken hero in the pool right now (behind bat, wisp in there somewhere as well)

I would argue he's on par with Bat and Wisp in terms of stupidity, hero is just disgusting.
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
October 16 2013 16:34 GMT
#82704
after seening et in pro play ppl finally realize that passive is pretty damn good.

timber still most broken hero though.
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
October 16 2013 16:37 GMT
#82705
On October 17 2013 01:34 aintz wrote:
after seening et in pro play ppl finally realize that passive is pretty damn good.

timber still most broken hero though.

People realized his aura was good since DotA 1, this is far from an epiphanic moment,
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
October 16 2013 16:39 GMT
#82706
On October 17 2013 01:37 Kuroeeah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 01:34 aintz wrote:
after seening et in pro play ppl finally realize that passive is pretty damn good.

timber still most broken hero though.

People realized his aura was good since DotA 1, this is far from an epiphanic moment,


ET did not surge into popularity in dota2 until very recently after it was used by pro teams. neither was timbersaw. now theres like one in every game. but i prefer those heroes over furion, furion pickers are just too damn professional.
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
October 16 2013 16:42 GMT
#82707
its funny that icefrog nerfed back Natural Aura when the hero was just in wc3 dota when the scene was dead and then undid the nerf just before ET hit dota2
whoso
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany523 Posts
October 16 2013 17:07 GMT
#82708
would OD be better of leveling orb instead of astral imprisonment against solo mid razor? because prison OD gets slaughtered doesnt he
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
October 16 2013 17:17 GMT
#82709
Getting one early point in orb and prioritising aura over imprisonment instead of the other way round would make sense to me I suppose.
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Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
October 16 2013 17:23 GMT
#82710
Even though the match up still favors Razor, I agree getting a point into orb over imprison against him is better.
Altsa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Finland990 Posts
October 16 2013 17:26 GMT
#82711
Thing that bugs me is that Natural Order outclasses Plague Aura so badly
AoD
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
October 16 2013 17:29 GMT
#82712
I don't think people will dispute Natural Order being the best aura in the game.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-16 17:30:43
October 16 2013 17:30 GMT
#82713
On October 17 2013 01:37 Kuroeeah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 01:34 aintz wrote:
after seening et in pro play ppl finally realize that passive is pretty damn good.

timber still most broken hero though.

People realized his aura was good since DotA 1, this is far from an epiphanic moment,


People are always like that, see X hero did well in pro game and scream imba, when the hero has been there since forever.

Meanwhile, I think some dude talked about TC's broken aura in GD back in 2012.

On December 10 2012 11:07 BurningSera wrote:
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On December 10 2012 10:35 Mithhaike wrote:
On December 10 2012 08:38 BurningSera wrote:
what, that winter wyvern is a sick support hero (which obviously sucks for majority pub).

Can't wait for TC and the people who will play him like a carry.


I have no idea what to do as a TC. Played it like twice in DOTA1 and forever left it alone.



TC is almost a definitive Position 3. Sick initiation and if his could pull it off with his ulti then (at least) 50% hp of the oppo team can say goodbye. The AoE/range of all his spells are disgusting and his aura is utterly broken.

The best time for TC was the small period of time when Powertreads worked like Phaseboots which you can abuse that with his spirit spell.

is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
October 16 2013 17:30 GMT
#82714
best aura in dota is sbs aura. who doesnt like running fast!
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
October 16 2013 17:31 GMT
#82715
On October 17 2013 02:30 BurningSera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 01:37 Kuroeeah wrote:
On October 17 2013 01:34 aintz wrote:
after seening et in pro play ppl finally realize that passive is pretty damn good.

timber still most broken hero though.

People realized his aura was good since DotA 1, this is far from an epiphanic moment,


People are always like that, see X hero did well in pro game and scream imba, when the hero has been there since forever.

Meanwhile, I think some dude talked about TC's broken aura in GD back in 2012.

Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 11:07 BurningSera wrote:
On December 10 2012 10:35 Mithhaike wrote:
On December 10 2012 08:38 BurningSera wrote:
what, that winter wyvern is a sick support hero (which obviously sucks for majority pub).

Can't wait for TC and the people who will play him like a carry.


I have no idea what to do as a TC. Played it like twice in DOTA1 and forever left it alone.



TC is almost a definitive Position 3. Sick initiation and if his could pull it off with his ulti then (at least) 50% hp of the oppo team can say goodbye. The AoE/range of all his spells are disgusting and his aura is utterly broken.

The best time for TC was the small period of time when Powertreads worked like Phaseboots which you can abuse that with his spirit spell.


Yango has patiently been awaiting TC / ET's arrival for awhile.
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Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
October 16 2013 17:36 GMT
#82716
I don't pretend to know everything there was in DotA 1 but I simply can't find it in myself to contest people who believes TC/ET suddenly being this revolutionary new hero that was founded by western teams.
c0sm0naut
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1229 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-16 17:55:07
October 16 2013 17:48 GMT
#82717
On October 17 2013 01:11 Comeh wrote:
In my opinion, ET is the second most broken hero in the pool right now (behind bat, wisp in there somewhere as well)


i completely agree, at least in most game

he is picked more and more quickly as time has gone
i really don't think he's ready for CM. he's very very flexible (can mid, can solo offlane, can even jungle, can play everything but a hard hard carry with good support), and this is part of the problem.

Also, his w and e abilities (Astral Spirit and his Aura) make his right click ganking just absurd in the early game. Games where ive played as, with or against an ET generally go this way > 1. titan early on grabs a really huge amount of CS with spirit, never in any real danger (especially offlane) 2. if playing vs a melee hero too, they get way less last hits because once ET has the spirit buff he can just rightclick most people down with only a few exceptions. 3. ET wins his lane, contributes like a boss to teamfights. an astral stomp + ult will eventually help his team stomp a teamfight. It's a skill shot, but it's not so skilled when setting up with astral spirit, it's pretty easy to hit with very long range.

my 2cents, i think ET should be removed from CM until his dmg buff from astral spirit is looked at. This ability too spammable especially when considering how tanking he is.

On October 17 2013 01:42 Klonere wrote:
its funny that icefrog nerfed back Natural Aura when the hero was just in wc3 dota when the scene was dead and then undid the nerf just before ET hit dota2


NA stacks too well with his spirit in early game. players aren't leveling stomp, stats or ult before maxing w/e and i think this is a big sign something is off
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
October 16 2013 18:00 GMT
#82718
its funny to see the number of people actually believing that razor crushes od, when nowadays od goes ahead or at least even
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Dankleteer
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1430 Posts
October 16 2013 18:03 GMT
#82719
So does anyone have an idea of what's going on with Chuan? Esports has far too few chins atm (sorry that was mean, I actually miss him)
fresh chops
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
October 16 2013 18:04 GMT
#82720
Could anyone help me to find the vod of the video game music concert? There is a part that show the animation in Free To Play documentary.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
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