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Rybka
Profile Joined March 2010
United States836 Posts
October 12 2013 14:11 GMT
#82201
On October 12 2013 23:02 RuskiPanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 22:27 r_con wrote:
so, i wanted to play antimage without having the shit lane presence that antimage has.... found the solution, lone druid antimage. LD in trueform has a good BAT, so i just rush a battlefury then treads, then blink, to farm faster and have my bear tank the damage, make sure to buy a quelling blade so its easier to farm, then instead of manta for that split push, radiance on the bear to farm even faster and split push while you blink and slam around the jungle. and lanes farming up a storm. farms really really fast actually. like, faster than my antimage(that is pretty ass i shall admit, plus i get to fight earlier)


Why wouldn't you just play alchemist


This is like a Rube Goldberg alchemist. :D
"I like winter, you can put a beer outside of the window and come back later to have it nice and cold. But in Belgium, it'd better be the 3rd floor window." -Rowa
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
October 12 2013 14:14 GMT
#82202
On October 12 2013 22:52 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 20:59 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On October 12 2013 20:44 Faruko wrote:
Does AA Cold Feet + OD Astral works ? I mean if Astral stills counts as the Hero being inside Cold Feet radius

Im pretty sure IT SHOULD NOT, but anyway

Pretty sure it works as long as the Astral is low enough level for the hero to get out from it. Would be the same as Cold feet -> Euls. But if the stun itself happen when they are astral'ed they don't get stunned.

Should definitely work with astral lvl 1-2. Harder with 3 and wont work at all if the Astral is level 4.

Edit: Also there is a Simple Questions/answers thread. Should use that in the future ^^

IIRC it shouldn't work, but it does in DotA 2 as part of like a million bugs that are in the game because the "paused" doesn't work correctly (buff/debuff durations are not supposed to advance during Astral/Disruption/Chronosphere because the unit is paused).

Though the distance check is triggered, so I'm not sure whether that part is actually paused by Astral anyway.

Wait, so what your saying AA is so bugged right now, the timer goes down when you pause?

That means the AA doesn't require a 2ndary stunner to activate it's stun? Just pause the game?
Mew Mew Pew Pew
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3473 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-12 14:20:40
October 12 2013 14:19 GMT
#82203
On October 12 2013 23:14 Mithhaike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 22:52 TheYango wrote:
On October 12 2013 20:59 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On October 12 2013 20:44 Faruko wrote:
Does AA Cold Feet + OD Astral works ? I mean if Astral stills counts as the Hero being inside Cold Feet radius

Im pretty sure IT SHOULD NOT, but anyway

Pretty sure it works as long as the Astral is low enough level for the hero to get out from it. Would be the same as Cold feet -> Euls. But if the stun itself happen when they are astral'ed they don't get stunned.

Should definitely work with astral lvl 1-2. Harder with 3 and wont work at all if the Astral is level 4.

Edit: Also there is a Simple Questions/answers thread. Should use that in the future ^^

IIRC it shouldn't work, but it does in DotA 2 as part of like a million bugs that are in the game because the "paused" doesn't work correctly (buff/debuff durations are not supposed to advance during Astral/Disruption/Chronosphere because the unit is paused).

Though the distance check is triggered, so I'm not sure whether that part is actually paused by Astral anyway.

Wait, so what your saying AA is so bugged right now, the timer goes down when you pause?

That means the AA doesn't require a 2ndary stunner to activate it's stun? Just pause the game?

Not pause the game lol. Astral is meant as "pause" status for unit in dota1, much like chronosphere. Time does not continue in astral. As in you use salve for 4s, then get astral. After astral end you get heal for another 6s. Hence the Cold Feet timer should not tick during astral ?
p/s: I rmb vaguely about getting heal during that 4s astral time w/o the salve timing ticking somehow ? Can't recall if it's true or not
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
October 12 2013 14:21 GMT
#82204
mh i just tested how quick you can get lvl 6 on a support vs a freelane on radiant and a 5 minute lvl 6 is actually quite real
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
October 12 2013 15:05 GMT
#82205
On October 12 2013 22:44 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 21:57 Nevuk wrote:
So I accidentally left network quality set to low for about a week and a half and was always like "why does it feel so laggy?."

I can now go back to happily actually mismicroing rather than accidentally. I'm actually somewhat amazed at the difference.

what do you mean? is there an option where i can select lower net usage for dota? or was the network quality setting not dota related. i ask cuz my internet sucks

There's a setting you can choose under (at least in the english menu) game -> network tab (it's on the left). There's two options, one is for high quality network the other for low quality.

I think that basically the low network setting smooths out the game's network usage somewhat by adding an artificial delay, it makes it less spiky (ie if you are hovering between 50-350 ms you turn it to low quality and it will be like you're at 350 the entire time). So the game is overall less responsive but it's way easier to adjust to.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
October 12 2013 15:20 GMT
#82206
that explains a lot, i was wondering why my timings were off by 0,5-1sec
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-12 15:24:54
October 12 2013 15:22 GMT
#82207
ok i gotta do it on english then (no idea why i had it on german anyway, i guess its standard)
cant put it on english apparently (if i go to properties i can only chose between english and chinese) but i found it in german aswell
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
October 12 2013 17:20 GMT
#82208
On October 12 2013 22:27 r_con wrote:
so, i wanted to play antimage without having the shit lane presence that antimage has.... found the solution, lone druid antimage. LD in trueform has a good BAT, so i just rush a battlefury then treads, then blink, to farm faster and have my bear tank the damage, make sure to buy a quelling blade so its easier to farm, then instead of manta for that split push, radiance on the bear to farm even faster and split push while you blink and slam around the jungle. and lanes farming up a storm. farms really really fast actually. like, faster than my antimage(that is pretty ass i shall admit, plus i get to fight earlier)


If you wanted to play a battlefury hero that farms faster than AM why don't you just play PA?
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-12 18:15:07
October 12 2013 17:39 GMT
#82209
btw anyone knows what happened to the reretry? i mean i can guess what happened to them, but anyone knows for sure?
On October 13 2013 02:20 Daozzt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 22:27 r_con wrote:
so, i wanted to play antimage without having the shit lane presence that antimage has.... found the solution, lone druid antimage. LD in trueform has a good BAT, so i just rush a battlefury then treads, then blink, to farm faster and have my bear tank the damage, make sure to buy a quelling blade so its easier to farm, then instead of manta for that split push, radiance on the bear to farm even faster and split push while you blink and slam around the jungle. and lanes farming up a storm. farms really really fast actually. like, faster than my antimage(that is pretty ass i shall admit, plus i get to fight earlier)


If you wanted to play a battlefury hero that farms faster than AM why don't you just play PA?

lmao
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 12 2013 18:28 GMT
#82210
On October 12 2013 23:19 vndestiny wrote:
p/s: I rmb vaguely about getting heal during that 4s astral time w/o the salve timing ticking somehow ? Can't recall if it's true or not

This was correct in DotA 1. The salve heal continued to apply even while your unit was paused/hidden, but the duration did not tick down.
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
October 12 2013 19:39 GMT
#82211
i just played around in my dotabuff and saw a couple of games from 2 years ago on antimage :ohgodwhy:
apparently i used to go vanguard on am
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
October 12 2013 20:03 GMT
#82212
everybody used to go vanguard on am..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
~Silvos~
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany17 Posts
October 12 2013 20:10 GMT
#82213
On October 12 2013 23:21 teddyoojo wrote:
mh i just tested how quick you can get lvl 6 on a support vs a freelane on radiant and a 5 minute lvl 6 is actually quite real

> New meta.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 12 2013 20:27 GMT
#82214
On October 13 2013 05:10 ~Silvos~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 23:21 teddyoojo wrote:
mh i just tested how quick you can get lvl 6 on a support vs a freelane on radiant and a 5 minute lvl 6 is actually quite real

> New meta.

It depends on creep camp luck. If you get only Ogres and Centaurs it will be slower, but if you are lucky and get lots of Satyrs you can hit 6 quite fast (partly because Satyrs give a lot of XP and partly because Satys die fast and therefore are conducive to triple pulls).
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writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
October 12 2013 21:13 GMT
#82215
On October 13 2013 02:20 Daozzt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2013 22:27 r_con wrote:
so, i wanted to play antimage without having the shit lane presence that antimage has.... found the solution, lone druid antimage. LD in trueform has a good BAT, so i just rush a battlefury then treads, then blink, to farm faster and have my bear tank the damage, make sure to buy a quelling blade so its easier to farm, then instead of manta for that split push, radiance on the bear to farm even faster and split push while you blink and slam around the jungle. and lanes farming up a storm. farms really really fast actually. like, faster than my antimage(that is pretty ass i shall admit, plus i get to fight earlier)


If you wanted to play a battlefury hero that farms faster than AM why don't you just play PA?


lmao good one. For those of you who don't get the joke:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=255359&currentpage=977#19535
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
Darkren
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1841 Posts
October 12 2013 21:34 GMT
#82216
On October 13 2013 06:13 writer22816 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 02:20 Daozzt wrote:
On October 12 2013 22:27 r_con wrote:
so, i wanted to play antimage without having the shit lane presence that antimage has.... found the solution, lone druid antimage. LD in trueform has a good BAT, so i just rush a battlefury then treads, then blink, to farm faster and have my bear tank the damage, make sure to buy a quelling blade so its easier to farm, then instead of manta for that split push, radiance on the bear to farm even faster and split push while you blink and slam around the jungle. and lanes farming up a storm. farms really really fast actually. like, faster than my antimage(that is pretty ass i shall admit, plus i get to fight earlier)


If you wanted to play a battlefury hero that farms faster than AM why don't you just play PA?


lmao good one. For those of you who don't get the joke:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=255359&currentpage=977#19535


Did the vod of the jungle warded with obs and a pa blinkstriking through the camp ever get out
"Yeah, I send (hopefully) helpful PM's quite frequently. You don't have to warn/ban everything" - KadaverBB
r_con
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States824 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-12 21:35:06
October 12 2013 21:34 GMT
#82217
On October 13 2013 06:13 writer22816 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2013 02:20 Daozzt wrote:
On October 12 2013 22:27 r_con wrote:
so, i wanted to play antimage without having the shit lane presence that antimage has.... found the solution, lone druid antimage. LD in trueform has a good BAT, so i just rush a battlefury then treads, then blink, to farm faster and have my bear tank the damage, make sure to buy a quelling blade so its easier to farm, then instead of manta for that split push, radiance on the bear to farm even faster and split push while you blink and slam around the jungle. and lanes farming up a storm. farms really really fast actually. like, faster than my antimage(that is pretty ass i shall admit, plus i get to fight earlier)


If you wanted to play a battlefury hero that farms faster than AM why don't you just play PA?


lmao good one. For those of you who don't get the joke:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=255359&currentpage=977#19535


da fuck, is this dude serious, my shit is just a troll build thats pretty fun
Flash Fan!
Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
October 12 2013 21:50 GMT
#82218
Speaking of carries, had a good enough start as specter to get phase, vit booster, radi at 20min. I'm still not sure about it. I mean...even with the damage buff I feel diffusal is the better option.
"I am a leaf on the wind."
hfglgg
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany5372 Posts
October 12 2013 22:01 GMT
#82219
On October 13 2013 06:50 Hoban wrote:
Speaking of carries, had a good enough start as specter to get phase, vit booster, radi at 20min. I'm still not sure about it. I mean...even with the damage buff I feel diffusal is the better option.


i think it depends on what you achieve / what the enemy heroes are. diffu lets you better solokill the stronger heroes of the enemy lineup due to the purge, but radiance kills off the supports in every teamfight plus will reliable disable blink daggers. (and you farm faster)
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
October 12 2013 22:30 GMT
#82220
I'd only ever get Battlefury on AM to be honest... On other heroes, they are just decent, but usually there is a better buy.
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