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Daozzt
United States1263 Posts
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
On September 29 2013 09:46 RuskiPanda wrote: MKB instead of daedaulus is actually a decent pickup on puck if you go the blink->sheep route. There's another route aside from Blink->Sheep? Are you talking about the Merlini Lothars build? | ||
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RuskiPanda
United States2906 Posts
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
On September 29 2013 09:59 RuskiPanda wrote: Blink/dagon 5->eblade obv. Ah, of course, the hard counter to "I got laned against Riki." | ||
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miyuki
Finland47 Posts
On September 28 2013 17:47 TheYango wrote: He can't solo off-lane safely, I don't know what you're trying to say. Yes, he can dual off-lane if you 2-1-2, but in terms of farming effectiveness, that's equal to or better than mid if you have a strong dual off-lane that's accomplishing its job of shutting down the carry. I know the conversation went astray from there, but I never meant that Huskar was meant to solo versus 3 heroes. Either put him on a 2 v 2 lane, or 3 v 3 lane against a carry that does less than Huskar and you will shut down the enemy carry from farming effectively. Of course Huskar will never be a good solo hero as he has no escape and no real survivability other than relying on his allies. But the fact that he has almost as good laning presence as lone druid has is not something you can just ignore. And yes, I know the differences between the two but if you think about it further, it's not that big of a stretch to compare the two. | ||
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DR.Ham
Netherlands621 Posts
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
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Cool Cat
United States1644 Posts
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Nocticate
Vatican City State2902 Posts
also no bkb's on anyone but ursa... sigh. DP goes for manta instead of bkb, razor goes crit instead of bkb, you go for I assume AC instead of BKB against two blademails... the linkens on storm is maybe acceptable but against a shotgun morphling and an earthshaker I think you really need a fucking bkb. | ||
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RuskiPanda
United States2906 Posts
On September 29 2013 10:48 Nocticate wrote: That nyx is awful. you don't level up dagon when you're behind and feeding. you get a goddamn ghost scepter (which he bought, probably going for eblade like a retard) and then a blink. or switch the order, who gives a fuck. also no bkb's on anyone but ursa... sigh. DP goes for manta instead of bkb, razor goes crit instead of bkb, you go for I assume AC instead of BKB against two blademails... the linkens on storm is maybe acceptable but against a shotgun morphling and an earthshaker I think you really need a fucking bkb. TLDR more people should buy bkb | ||
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Flameberger
United States227 Posts
On September 29 2013 10:48 Nocticate wrote: That nyx is awful. you don't level up dagon when you're behind and feeding. you get a goddamn ghost scepter (which he bought, probably going for eblade like a retard) and then a blink. or switch the order, who gives a fuck. also no bkb's on anyone but ursa... sigh. DP goes for manta instead of bkb, razor goes crit instead of bkb, you go for I assume AC instead of BKB against two blademails... the linkens on storm is maybe acceptable but against a shotgun morphling and an earthshaker I think you really need a fucking bkb. pretty good rant, spam ping and tell the enemy team to report people and you could pass for one of the people on their team. | ||
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Nocticate
Vatican City State2902 Posts
bkb is literally the best item in the game right now. there's no two ways around it. the new carry metagame is carries you can put an early bkb on and let fight. Alchemist and Weaver used to NEVER get bkb. it's simply an absurdly good item and the single item that the entire balance of the game hinges upon. nerfing or buffing bkb is a dangerous route simply because of how influential it is. On September 29 2013 10:53 Flameberger wrote: pretty good rant, spam ping and tell the enemy team to report people and you could pass for one of the people on their team. i've been told I'm good at ranting before. | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
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Mithhaike
Singapore2759 Posts
On September 29 2013 10:48 Nocticate wrote: That nyx is awful. you don't level up dagon when you're behind and feeding. you get a goddamn ghost scepter (which he bought, probably going for eblade like a retard) and then a blink. or switch the order, who gives a fuck. also no bkb's on anyone but ursa... sigh. DP goes for manta instead of bkb, razor goes crit instead of bkb, you go for I assume AC instead of BKB against two blademails... the linkens on storm is maybe acceptable but against a shotgun morphling and an earthshaker I think you really need a fucking bkb. You require more min-BKBs. | ||
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beef42
Denmark1037 Posts
On September 29 2013 11:18 ahswtini wrote: Game wouldn't be epic if people had bkbs. they should make a mode where BKB is banned, so that everyone plays supportish heroes and runs around dunking shit | ||
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Esoterikk
Canada1256 Posts
*edit* Posted on reddit but a pretty damn well made fun minigame http://weneedwards.com/meathook/ | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
On September 29 2013 10:56 Nocticate wrote: bkb is literally the best item in the game right now. there's no two ways around it. the new carry metagame is carries you can put an early bkb on and let fight. Alchemist and Weaver used to NEVER get bkb. it's simply an absurdly good item and the single item that the entire balance of the game hinges upon. nerfing or buffing bkb is a dangerous route simply because of how influential it is. Funny you should say that, given it was nerfed only last version. Also, BKBs are very good, but not quite as good in pubs and at low levels, because of how much they focus things on a single engagement. Coordination is more difficult, and so it's much tougher to start engaging properly on the enemy team and maintain that engagement for the duration of the BKB. If any sort of improper engagement occurs, the BKB charge can be popped too early or too late and rendered mostly useless (example: an enemy Storm goes on you, you pop BKB, and your team completely fails to shut him down, so he runs away and your BKB is down). There are many situations where other items take priority, and really it all comes down to what's happening in the game you're immediately playing. After all, that's why some pros will build straight Linkens, some will build Deso, and some will go Treads BKB on Weaver. Although... that said? In THIS game? With ES, Kunkka, Nyx, Storm, Morphling, and Undying distributed across both teams? You'd have to be insane to not notice the huge amounts of magical disruption coming down on both sides during every teamfight. Hell, most of it's even AOE. | ||
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Darkren
Canada1841 Posts
On September 29 2013 11:47 beef42 wrote: they should make a mode where BKB is banned, so that everyone plays supportish heroes and runs around dunking shit Or maybe have a 5v5 full on support, u can only buy items that do not give any stats up | ||
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kaztah
Norway1221 Posts
On September 29 2013 11:18 ahswtini wrote: Game wouldn't be epic if people had bkbs. This is why buying bkbs is pretty much forbidden in our 5 man stacks and inhouses. Such a fucking boring item. All it does is winning games, and stop the fun for everyone involved. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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