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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
September 19 2013 20:58 GMT
#78681
On September 20 2013 05:54 Sn0_Man wrote:
If you have charge maxed the stun time is irrelevant afaik. And I'm not certain the stun time doesn't already work anyway. Its just distance which is BAD lol.

Doesn't particularly matter tho.

LAN is HUGE but not for me. Very happy with pretty much all the changes.

There's also bashing after an ult, not just after charge. I dunno, it shouldn't make a massive difference either way, if the stun time applied before or not.
super gg
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-19 20:59:51
September 19 2013 20:59 GMT
#78682
On September 20 2013 05:58 NB wrote:
http://www.valvesoftware.com/email.php?recipient=Dota 2 Team

lol they actually attached this link to the blog post. This week gona be a nightmare for them.

I wonder if the email is forwarded to icefrog even though he has a public gmail account already.
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
September 19 2013 21:02 GMT
#78683
On September 20 2013 05:58 NB wrote:
http://www.valvesoftware.com/email.php?recipient=Dota 2 Team

lol they actually attached this link to the blog post. This week gona be a nightmare for them.

I doubt it. It's not like they have to read all the mails. They probably have a few interns scan them for relevant stuff.
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
September 19 2013 21:03 GMT
#78684
Valve doesn't have internships
Rayeth
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States883 Posts
September 19 2013 21:09 GMT
#78685
On September 20 2013 06:03 Kuroeeah wrote:
Valve doesn't have internships

Then they probably just have an automatic filter which redirects 95% of the incoming mail to the trash.

It's easy to set up:
Any email containing the following words goes right out:
-Volvo
-nerf
-Icefraud
-disband
-pls
-any of the twitch chat emotes
-huehuehue
-cyka
-ded gaem
-new hero

That alone probably covers 80+% of the email right there. It will at least give you readable emails written by people who spent enough time to type things out properly.
The Innocent shall suffer... big time.
myrmidon2537
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Philippines2188 Posts
September 19 2013 21:12 GMT
#78686
On September 20 2013 05:51 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2013 05:48 Yoshi- wrote:
And I am not even sure if you can actually extend the hook like that, if the hook doesn't move relative to pudge, this won't work

Plus with no curved hook it's still a net nerf to Pudge even if Force Staff/Fountain Hook work.

Show nested quote +
On September 20 2013 05:46 TheEmulator wrote:
@myrmidon
If you're crushing the offlane it's still fine to go bloodstone with Timber. Might be more useful to get other items if you are feeding though. When I queue with TheTester he almost always destroys 1v2 with Timber, and always gets a 14-15 minutes stone, rofl.

Bloodstone at any point before 20 minutes is acceptable. If you don't think you can get 20 min Bloodstone, you'll probably still get it eventually but make some adjustments to get other fighting items (Urn, Cloak/Hood, etc.).


I actually never considered hood (brain fart here). Gonna make for a great situational pickup. Usually by the time I get arc-Bloodstone, I just go blademail then Hex/Shivas. Maybe Travels (since I just stick with brown boots after bloodstone is built)
IPT.PromilKid: I'm only good at Marvel
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 19 2013 21:16 GMT
#78687
Blademail is usually a pretty weak buy.
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Fatalize
Profile Joined January 2011
France5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-19 21:17:47
September 19 2013 21:17 GMT
#78688
On September 20 2013 06:12 myrmidon2537 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2013 05:51 TheYango wrote:
On September 20 2013 05:48 Yoshi- wrote:
And I am not even sure if you can actually extend the hook like that, if the hook doesn't move relative to pudge, this won't work

Plus with no curved hook it's still a net nerf to Pudge even if Force Staff/Fountain Hook work.

On September 20 2013 05:46 TheEmulator wrote:
@myrmidon
If you're crushing the offlane it's still fine to go bloodstone with Timber. Might be more useful to get other items if you are feeding though. When I queue with TheTester he almost always destroys 1v2 with Timber, and always gets a 14-15 minutes stone, rofl.

Bloodstone at any point before 20 minutes is acceptable. If you don't think you can get 20 min Bloodstone, you'll probably still get it eventually but make some adjustments to get other fighting items (Urn, Cloak/Hood, etc.).


I actually never considered hood (brain fart here). Gonna make for a great situational pickup. Usually by the time I get arc-Bloodstone, I just go blademail then Hex/Shivas. Maybe Travels (since I just stick with brown boots after bloodstone is built)

You can get heart or Radiance if you're really fed too. You can't really lose the game after that
SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
September 19 2013 21:18 GMT
#78689
On September 20 2013 06:09 Rayeth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2013 06:03 Kuroeeah wrote:
Valve doesn't have internships

Then they probably just have an automatic filter which redirects 95% of the incoming mail to the trash.

It's easy to set up:
Any email containing the following words goes right out:
-Volvo
-nerf
-Icefraud
-disband
-pls
-any of the twitch chat emotes
-huehuehue
-cyka
-ded gaem
-new hero

That alone probably covers 80+% of the email right there. It will at least give you readable emails written by people who spent enough time to type things out properly.

Haha I would love to see an actual statistic on this :D
tpmraven
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States833 Posts
September 19 2013 21:21 GMT
#78690
I wonder how lan is going to work with the ingame client?

Does this mean that a lan event wont be streamed ingame?
(⌐■_■) Like a boss
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-19 21:23:52
September 19 2013 21:22 GMT
#78691
On September 20 2013 06:17 Fatalize wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2013 06:12 myrmidon2537 wrote:
On September 20 2013 05:51 TheYango wrote:
On September 20 2013 05:48 Yoshi- wrote:
And I am not even sure if you can actually extend the hook like that, if the hook doesn't move relative to pudge, this won't work

Plus with no curved hook it's still a net nerf to Pudge even if Force Staff/Fountain Hook work.

On September 20 2013 05:46 TheEmulator wrote:
@myrmidon
If you're crushing the offlane it's still fine to go bloodstone with Timber. Might be more useful to get other items if you are feeding though. When I queue with TheTester he almost always destroys 1v2 with Timber, and always gets a 14-15 minutes stone, rofl.

Bloodstone at any point before 20 minutes is acceptable. If you don't think you can get 20 min Bloodstone, you'll probably still get it eventually but make some adjustments to get other fighting items (Urn, Cloak/Hood, etc.).


I actually never considered hood (brain fart here). Gonna make for a great situational pickup. Usually by the time I get arc-Bloodstone, I just go blademail then Hex/Shivas. Maybe Travels (since I just stick with brown boots after bloodstone is built)

You can get heart or Radiance if you're really fed too. You can't really lose the game after that

Halberd is actually a very efficient buy once you have 3-4 items. High armor + high HP makes Evasion very cost-effective.

On September 20 2013 06:21 tpmraven wrote:
Does this mean that a lan event wont be streamed ingame?

They probably have something to allow Tournament admins to still have games broadcast on DotaTV.
Moderator
Jaeger
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1150 Posts
September 19 2013 21:27 GMT
#78692
You can connect a lan tf2 server to a source tv relay, I imagine it doesn't work much differently for dota 2.
https://www.dotabuff.com/players/8137911
Fatalize
Profile Joined January 2011
France5210 Posts
September 19 2013 21:27 GMT
#78693
On September 20 2013 06:22 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2013 06:17 Fatalize wrote:
On September 20 2013 06:12 myrmidon2537 wrote:
On September 20 2013 05:51 TheYango wrote:
On September 20 2013 05:48 Yoshi- wrote:
And I am not even sure if you can actually extend the hook like that, if the hook doesn't move relative to pudge, this won't work

Plus with no curved hook it's still a net nerf to Pudge even if Force Staff/Fountain Hook work.

On September 20 2013 05:46 TheEmulator wrote:
@myrmidon
If you're crushing the offlane it's still fine to go bloodstone with Timber. Might be more useful to get other items if you are feeding though. When I queue with TheTester he almost always destroys 1v2 with Timber, and always gets a 14-15 minutes stone, rofl.

Bloodstone at any point before 20 minutes is acceptable. If you don't think you can get 20 min Bloodstone, you'll probably still get it eventually but make some adjustments to get other fighting items (Urn, Cloak/Hood, etc.).


I actually never considered hood (brain fart here). Gonna make for a great situational pickup. Usually by the time I get arc-Bloodstone, I just go blademail then Hex/Shivas. Maybe Travels (since I just stick with brown boots after bloodstone is built)

You can get heart or Radiance if you're really fed too. You can't really lose the game after that

Halberd is actually a very efficient buy once you have 3-4 items. High armor + high HP makes Evasion very cost-effective.

Show nested quote +
On September 20 2013 06:21 tpmraven wrote:
Does this mean that a lan event wont be streamed ingame?

They probably have something to allow Tournament admins to still have games broadcast on DotaTV.

True Halbed is pretty good. However i'm still torn on whether or not it's worth it to buy a sheep relatively early on Timber instead of a Shiva's. The disable is obviously amazing but Shiva is cheaper and feels more useful on somebody like Timber
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
September 19 2013 21:28 GMT
#78694
a pro said halbard was one of the worst items in the game, i forgot who said it though.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 19 2013 21:28 GMT
#78695
It depends a lot on how badly you need armor at that point in the game and the enemy team composition.

Shiva's is stronger against multiple cores because the -AS aura is hitting more enemies. Sheep is stronger against a single core that is a high priority to lock down.
Moderator
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
September 19 2013 21:32 GMT
#78696
On Dread stream there is a Slardar in the enemy team that just Armlet toggles trough urn, poison sting and veno ult (at the same time) multiple times. How the hell?
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
Fatalize
Profile Joined January 2011
France5210 Posts
September 19 2013 21:34 GMT
#78697
On September 20 2013 06:32 Slomo wrote:
On Dread stream there is a Slardar in the enemy team that just Armlet toggles trough urn, poison sting and veno ult (at the same time) multiple times. How the hell?

Macro that toggles it off then on immediately, or just some luck with skill, which isnt too uncommon
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-19 21:35:58
September 19 2013 21:34 GMT
#78698
On September 20 2013 06:32 Slomo wrote:
On Dread stream there is a Slardar in the enemy team that just Armlet toggles trough urn, poison sting and veno ult (at the same time) multiple times. How the hell?

Either godlike reflexes or a macro.

I actually find that it isnt the first tick that is the hard one to dodge. Its the second one that kills me most of the time.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 19 2013 21:40 GMT
#78699
You can SHIFT QUEUE armlet toggles that achieves it instantly.

It doesn't have to be a macro guys not everybody is cheating.

That said, it probably is lol.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
September 19 2013 21:41 GMT
#78700
On September 20 2013 06:18 SilverStar wrote:
Haha I would love to see an actual statistic on this :D

This may be close enough to what you want:

http://i.imgur.com/otxrFN3.png

(It's the dev.dota2.com patch anticipation thread tag cloud)
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
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