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Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
September 16 2013 20:15 GMT
#78081
On September 17 2013 05:08 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2013 05:04 Piledriver wrote:
On September 17 2013 04:18 Kaniol wrote:
On September 17 2013 03:34 hooahah wrote:
does anyone else feel as if Kaipi are in every single game in every single tournament lately

So true, KP vs random-unknown-team 1, KP vs random-unknown-team 2, KP vs random-unknown-team 3, KP gets stomped by [A], KP vs random-unknown-team 4, (...) and then everyone is like "KP the bonjwas of DOTA2, lost only 1 game this month"



Yeah, VP, Empire, Fnatic, Rox.Kis, Quantic, all random unknown teams.

Whatever makes you feel happy brah.

Also that vs [A] game should have been redrafted. KP ran a pocket strat, but due to server screw ups [A] got more than enough time to prepare for it perfectly.

It wasn't a pocket strat. EE was interviewed, he said that bone7 said "we should run Axe" and he said "hell yeah" and picked the hero. Kaipi had as much time to figure out how to use the Axe as Alliance had to counter it.

Please don't be ignorant of the facts. Kaipi is fun to watch, but it's really not surprising that they got beaten handily by the best team there is. They put up a good fight. Anyone can see that. You don't need to propagandize to make it clear.



Yeah, defending a team equals propagandizing. And I'm sorry I didnt listen to a hour long interview (I usually only read transcripts, because its much easier to read and skim through). Also earlier that week according to commentators, Kaipi demolished a top tier team in a scrim using axe in under 15 minutes, so I assumed they had practised the hero earlier. Just because you draft a hero out of the blue, doesnt mean that you dont have practise with him. He might have been a surprise pick in the draft, but they surely had experience running it.

So back off with your "ignorance" comments, because you're souding like a condescending tool.
Envy fan since NTH.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
September 16 2013 20:16 GMT
#78082
stop listening to clairvoyance
and scrims count for nothing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
September 16 2013 20:18 GMT
#78083
also im pretty sure EE was the one who didnt want a redraft
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-16 20:27:45
September 16 2013 20:24 GMT
#78084
Anyway I don't think A needed 3 days to prepare for Axe. Axe ! Just pick some good heroes and you're ready for Axe =P Seems KP didn't have a master Axe plan, they just thought that it would be a good situational hero.
KP is sure a current hot team (and there is only 2, A and KP, not saying they're on the same level, just saying they have coherent results, and they don't lose against random teams left and right like VP, fnatic, Navi etc. who are losing a lot of random games they "should" in theory win)
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
September 16 2013 20:33 GMT
#78085
On September 17 2013 05:24 MrCon wrote:
Anyway I don't think A needed 3 days to prepare for Axe. Axe ! Just pick some good heroes and you're ready for Axe =P Seems KP didn't have a master Axe plan, they just thought that it would be a good situational hero.
KP is sure a current hot team (and there is only 2, A and KP, not saying they're on the same level, just saying they have coherent results, and they don't lose against random teams left and right like VP, fnatic, Navi etc. who are losing a lot of random games they "should" in theory win)

No one should be surprised about Na'Vi losing games off and on.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
September 16 2013 20:34 GMT
#78086
they picked bloodseeker, u cant read anything into it
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
September 16 2013 20:34 GMT
#78087
Well yeah, just they aren't consistent.
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
September 16 2013 20:37 GMT
#78088
On September 17 2013 05:34 MrCon wrote:
Well yeah, just they aren't consistent.

They're consistent in being good when it counts. Na'Vi made it to the finals in all ti's one way or another. Them making it far in Ti2 was prob the biggest surprise actually.
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-16 20:41:40
September 16 2013 20:39 GMT
#78089
On September 17 2013 05:15 Piledriver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2013 05:08 Acritter wrote:
On September 17 2013 05:04 Piledriver wrote:
On September 17 2013 04:18 Kaniol wrote:
On September 17 2013 03:34 hooahah wrote:
does anyone else feel as if Kaipi are in every single game in every single tournament lately

So true, KP vs random-unknown-team 1, KP vs random-unknown-team 2, KP vs random-unknown-team 3, KP gets stomped by [A], KP vs random-unknown-team 4, (...) and then everyone is like "KP the bonjwas of DOTA2, lost only 1 game this month"



Yeah, VP, Empire, Fnatic, Rox.Kis, Quantic, all random unknown teams.

Whatever makes you feel happy brah.

Also that vs [A] game should have been redrafted. KP ran a pocket strat, but due to server screw ups [A] got more than enough time to prepare for it perfectly.

It wasn't a pocket strat. EE was interviewed, he said that bone7 said "we should run Axe" and he said "hell yeah" and picked the hero. Kaipi had as much time to figure out how to use the Axe as Alliance had to counter it.

Please don't be ignorant of the facts. Kaipi is fun to watch, but it's really not surprising that they got beaten handily by the best team there is. They put up a good fight. Anyone can see that. You don't need to propagandize to make it clear.



Yeah, defending a team equals propagandizing. And I'm sorry I didnt listen to a hour long interview (I usually only read transcripts, because its much easier to read and skim through). Also earlier that week according to commentators, Kaipi demolished a top tier team in a scrim using axe in under 15 minutes, so I assumed they had practised the hero earlier. Just because you draft a hero out of the blue, doesnt mean that you dont have practise with him. He might have been a surprise pick in the draft, but they surely had experience running it.

So back off with your "ignorance" comments, because you're souding like a condescending tool.
Alliance demolished a top tier team in an official match with Axe in 15 minutes 5 months ago.

Axe isn't a trojan horse, there's no reason to believe that A got any more of an advantage than KP did due to the break.
Once you Goblak...
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
September 16 2013 20:42 GMT
#78090
You can also claim that [A] had a pocket strat but got ruined because of the delay. Get over it lol.
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-16 20:44:47
September 16 2013 20:43 GMT
#78091
On September 17 2013 05:24 MrCon wrote:
Anyway I don't think A needed 3 days to prepare for Axe. Axe ! Just pick some good heroes and you're ready for Axe =P Seems KP didn't have a master Axe plan, they just thought that it would be a good situational hero.
KP is sure a current hot team (and there is only 2, A and KP, not saying they're on the same level, just saying they have coherent results, and they don't lose against random teams left and right like VP, fnatic, Navi etc. who are losing a lot of random games they "should" in theory win)



Thats the point I was making as well. I'm not even remotely suggesting KP is the best team right now. They have to win atleast a couple of major LANs (like Dreamhack and maybe StarLadder and Top 4 International), before we even mention them in the same ranks as [A] or Na'Vi. But saying that they just beat a bunch of nonames to reach a hot streak is just ignorant, and frankly disingenuous. Heck they even beat top teams even before TI3.
Envy fan since NTH.
Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
September 16 2013 20:44 GMT
#78092
--- Nuked ---
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
September 16 2013 20:46 GMT
#78093
That's what Envy is great at though as a captain, managing resources on the map. But they still didn't really get all that much out of the wisp anyway.
Once you Goblak...
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
September 16 2013 20:49 GMT
#78094
They were probably playing out of their comfort zone. It goes back to needing your support to also be a good wisp player.

Aui had to play the Rubick for Pieliedie to play Wisp.
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-16 20:53:59
September 16 2013 20:52 GMT
#78095
Well it also wasn't an especially good wisp line-up to encounter (chen/abba/qop/naix/bounty, KP with no real disable other than rubick lift) even disregarding that Alliance are, as we know, very good at playing against Wisp.
Once you Goblak...
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
September 16 2013 20:59 GMT
#78096
That's the other thing about Alliance is that they're the best team when it comes to playing with and against Wisp. Just look at the drafts and how easy it was for s4 to outdraft his enemies. Bulldog's signatures heroes are consistently banned and Alliance are one of the only capable teams of using Wisp.
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-16 21:44:41
September 16 2013 21:42 GMT
#78097
http://www.resume.se/nyheter/tv/2013/09/16/efter-miljonregnet-liljestrand-drar-igang-e-sportliga/

The owner of the media group which holds the rights to the premier league (football obviously, not TPL) in nordic countries and various other things (along with being the former chief of sports media at a major TV network) showing interest in eSports and starting a league of some sort.

http://www.hltv.org/n/11369

HLTV claims (although I can't find a source) that part of this will be a 57,000 euro CS:GO tournament. Although in the owners statements they say they want to do CS/Dota2/League as well.

Most of the references made by the guy are about Dota / TI, so I'd imagine there will be something coming from them along with the official announcement of the other stuff.

Could be interesting, don't really know what the plan is here other than that they are working with inferno online and will be some sort of pro/am tournament, which doesn't say much. Could just be a feeler to see what kind of potential there is in the market. Or maybe they're looking to get a product together for TV after recent endeavours into eSports from TV6 / SVT. (although I doubt it at this point)
Once you Goblak...
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 16 2013 22:54 GMT
#78098
so what cool skins did we get in this patch
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13088 Posts
September 16 2013 23:25 GMT
#78099
Opened 5 chests, got manta for Am and 4 crappy rares i didnt care about .

Still waiting for my first courier drops :[
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Fatalize
Profile Joined January 2011
France5210 Posts
September 16 2013 23:38 GMT
#78100
i don't even feel like watching Cyborgmatt's stream for the patch. There's probably absolutely nothing of interest :/
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