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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 15 2013 05:29 GMT
#77821
On September 15 2013 12:46 Mataza wrote:
TMM begins new teams at an unreasonably high level so you will suffer a lot of hard stomps unless you are already quite good as a 5 man team. To have a chance at winning you will have to play you're very best all the time, leading to doing the same thing over and over and finally ladder anxiety a la sc2.

Proof: Dota is never fun.


I thought TMM started you at an MMR equal to the sum of the individual MMRs of the players on the team?
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tube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1475 Posts
September 15 2013 06:01 GMT
#77822
5-s so we
Two in harmony surpasses one in perfection.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 15 2013 06:05 GMT
#77823
On September 15 2013 14:29 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 12:46 Mataza wrote:
TMM begins new teams at an unreasonably high level so you will suffer a lot of hard stomps unless you are already quite good as a 5 man team. To have a chance at winning you will have to play you're very best all the time, leading to doing the same thing over and over and finally ladder anxiety a la sc2.

Proof: Dota is never fun.


I thought TMM started you at an MMR equal to the sum of the individual MMRs of the players on the team?


in my experience doing 3 different tmm teams this has not been the case at all
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
September 15 2013 06:57 GMT
#77824
SEA server still unstable
I'm gonna try lol for the mean time
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 15 2013 07:20 GMT
#77825
everytime merlini parties with mistmare and 772 its funny as fuck cuz he doesnt know mandarin to talk to them efficiently lmfao
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Shadowpostin
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany798 Posts
September 15 2013 07:49 GMT
#77826
What are the odds of bashing someone with bara 4 times in a row?
allow me to demonstrate the skill of shaolin
Kazzoo
Profile Joined October 2010
France368 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-15 07:53:59
September 15 2013 07:53 GMT
#77827
If my math is not terrible .08%.
Not accounting for the pseudo randomn thingy .
Antifate
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States415 Posts
September 15 2013 08:02 GMT
#77828
Remember that Charge and Netherstrike both guarantee Greater Bashes. Sometimes being locked down for what seems like an eternity is not bullshit.
No one is taller than the last man standing.
Shadowpostin
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany798 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-15 08:20:52
September 15 2013 08:20 GMT
#77829
On September 15 2013 17:02 Antifate wrote:
Remember that Charge and Netherstrike both guarantee Greater Bashes. Sometimes being locked down for what seems like an eternity is not bullshit.

no i literally just bashed someone 4 times in a row with just autos
should have played the lottery and not doto
allow me to demonstrate the skill of shaolin
gaymon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1023 Posts
September 15 2013 08:23 GMT
#77830
On September 15 2013 15:05 FinestHour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 14:29 TheYango wrote:
On September 15 2013 12:46 Mataza wrote:
TMM begins new teams at an unreasonably high level so you will suffer a lot of hard stomps unless you are already quite good as a 5 man team. To have a chance at winning you will have to play you're very best all the time, leading to doing the same thing over and over and finally ladder anxiety a la sc2.

Proof: Dota is never fun.


I thought TMM started you at an MMR equal to the sum of the individual MMRs of the players on the team?


in my experience doing 3 different tmm teams this has not been the case at all


If you are decent at the game you will win the big majority of games when TMM'ing (There are simply no good teams, even at 5xxx Rating) unless proteams happen to queue (which happens approximately never).
Of course it gets harder if you artificially boosted your MMR by going full TI4 mode in pubs and are not good enough to play on such a level if your opponents are actually trying to win.
Staboteur
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada1873 Posts
September 15 2013 08:58 GMT
#77831
http://pubstats.me/49667080/

Pubstats seems largely uninformative.without at least loose designations for role or bracket. Me having an average CS of 83 compared to the current site average of 102 probably means I'm exceptionally bad at last-hitting for someone in high / vhigh... except I play position 5 almost always, so... maybe not?

One thing's for sure, though! I need to die less :D
I'm actually Fleetfeet D:
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
September 15 2013 09:14 GMT
#77832
On September 15 2013 14:29 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 12:46 Mataza wrote:
TMM begins new teams at an unreasonably high level so you will suffer a lot of hard stomps unless you are already quite good as a 5 man team. To have a chance at winning you will have to play you're very best all the time, leading to doing the same thing over and over and finally ladder anxiety a la sc2.

Proof: Dota is never fun.


I thought TMM started you at an MMR equal to the sum of the individual MMRs of the players on the team?

It does, I've made several teams with the same 5 stack, and it's quite evident.
AKA No can Dazzle | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlTpX7z3Pok
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WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
September 15 2013 10:03 GMT
#77833
Even though N0tails steam isn't SFW, it sure is entertaining to watch
EZ4ENCE
Xinder
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2269 Posts
September 15 2013 10:27 GMT
#77834
It's very depressing when you play single draft and watch as the other team gets SB....and then troll. As if the bashes weren't bad enough he gets troll ulti. It was a hard game. Unsurprisingly we lost. Cause you just can't beat SB.
"Daaayyyy9, King Pussyfoot of NinnyVille"- Day9 while playing Amnesia
Kazzoo
Profile Joined October 2010
France368 Posts
September 15 2013 11:20 GMT
#77835
Didn't we have a QQ thread ?
kaztah
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1221 Posts
September 15 2013 11:47 GMT
#77836
pubstats in general seems like it has a few issues it needs to work out.

I tried to check out my smurf on it and it really doesn't make sense.

http://pubstats.me/76561198089137583 clearly shows 100% on one graph, yet it goes up and down on the two other graphs. And I'm pretty sure I played a few games of not vhigh aswell before it jumped there, so 100% also sounds unreasonable.
I speak fluent sarcasm.
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
September 15 2013 12:07 GMT
#77837
On September 15 2013 12:46 TheSubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 12:44 EnumaAvalon wrote:
On September 15 2013 11:23 teddyoojo wrote:
random gold is dumb
literally no reason for random gold to be in the game

I think it's okay. It gives you an incentive to try a new hero. If you get a hero you always use, then good for you but for people like me who need an extra edge when playing a hero like, say, tree. I want that extra starting regen or sage's mask.

It makes solo matchups so obnoxious for the person who didn't random tho. If someone can't be bothered to try new heroes that's their fault

True. I guess the advantage the person who didn't random got is the choice if hero. Imagine randoming AM when you already have a Spectre and a PL :p Hahaha! That 200 gold won't do *bleep*! :D But I do get your point.
(._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) They see me rolling. They hating.
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
September 15 2013 12:13 GMT
#77838
On September 15 2013 20:20 Kazzoo wrote:
Didn't we have a QQ thread ?


quite a few people don't think that their posts belong there
ffxiv enjoyer
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
September 15 2013 12:31 GMT
#77839
On September 15 2013 13:27 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 12:46 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On September 15 2013 12:44 EnumaAvalon wrote:
On September 15 2013 11:23 teddyoojo wrote:
random gold is dumb
literally no reason for random gold to be in the game

I think it's okay. It gives you an incentive to try a new hero. If you get a hero you always use, then good for you but for people like me who need an extra edge when playing a hero like, say, tree. I want that extra starting regen or sage's mask.

It makes solo matchups so obnoxious for the person who didn't random tho. If someone can't be bothered to try new heroes that's their fault

I like playing solo matchups with repick vs random gold.

If I can win with repick vs. random gold, then going back to normal gold matchups feels so easy.

It's good practice, but sometimes I play 600 gold night stalker vs random gold QoP and I know I've completely boned the midlane for my team
Dodge arrows
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
September 15 2013 12:40 GMT
#77840
http://pubstats.me/83868161/

my winrate by time is hilarious, i always get bored in later stages of the game :>
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
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