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dfs
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Russian Federation4050 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-15 02:37:24
September 15 2013 02:36 GMT
#77801
Blasphemy! You can not simply nerf bonus gold! Next step would be making courier free! And only God knows where would we end up after!
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/Q1jSb9X.jpg (c) Shiro; http://i.imgur.com/lSDLLKb.png (c) drav
Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-15 02:50:53
September 15 2013 02:50 GMT
#77802
Patch 7.03 Sneak Peek
The courier is now free but a team can not have more than one at a time nor can it be bought when a courier is dead.
Random is no longer an option.

•Anti Mage
Movement speed decreased to 235.
Blink no longer has a range limit.

•Treant Protector
Living Armor no longer heals but restores mana per second instead.
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
September 15 2013 03:14 GMT
#77803
On September 15 2013 11:50 Kuroeeah wrote:
Patch 7.03 Sneak Peek
The courier is now free but a team can not have more than one at a time nor can it be bought when a courier is dead.
Random is no longer an option.

•Anti Mage
Movement speed decreased to 235.
Blink no longer has a range limit.

•Treant Protector
Living Armor no longer heals but restores mana per second instead.

•Phantom Assassin
Phantom Strike will now give 100% chance to Coup de Grâce additionally to 100% attack speed for 3 seconds/maximum of 4 attacks.


Back in the real world I think random gold exists to incentivize people to play all the heroes, not just a limited number. Which ultimately is a good thing.
Also Nightstalker mid would lose to QoP even if he had the random gold and she did not. She could come with a set of tangos and burn her money and she would still probably win against NS mid.
-> NS mid isn't that strong(I know it sucks, I like him too)

One of the stable of heroes that fall to the doom of being unlanable. /bad pun
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
September 15 2013 03:24 GMT
#77804
On September 15 2013 11:34 writer22816 wrote:
honestly i think random gold serves no purpose other than to ruin games


Is it because everyone just randoms because addicted to bonus gold, thus having bad hero comps?

Won't be much different than any all-pick game anyway. People just pick whatever they like, whether or not it's better for the team.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 15 2013 03:26 GMT
#77805
that would be so fucking sick if blink strike gave first hit a coup de grace guaranteed

Also ns does pretty good vs qop with random gold ur wrong about that one
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Tsutchie
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia951 Posts
September 15 2013 03:30 GMT
#77806
On September 15 2013 12:24 trinxified wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 11:34 writer22816 wrote:
honestly i think random gold serves no purpose other than to ruin games


Is it because everyone just randoms because addicted to bonus gold, thus having bad hero comps?

Won't be much different than any all-pick game anyway. People just pick whatever they like, whether or not it's better for the team.


really, its just all pick, where people pick whatever the hell they want or 5-stacks picking wombo combos. its "ruined" before the game even starts. if you want to experience proper dota you need a 5 stack playing cm mode.
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
September 15 2013 03:44 GMT
#77807
On September 15 2013 11:23 teddyoojo wrote:
random gold is dumb
literally no reason for random gold to be in the game

I think it's okay. It gives you an incentive to try a new hero. If you get a hero you always use, then good for you but for people like me who need an extra edge when playing a hero like, say, tree. I want that extra starting regen or sage's mask.
(._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) They see me rolling. They hating.
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
September 15 2013 03:46 GMT
#77808
On September 15 2013 12:44 EnumaAvalon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 11:23 teddyoojo wrote:
random gold is dumb
literally no reason for random gold to be in the game

I think it's okay. It gives you an incentive to try a new hero. If you get a hero you always use, then good for you but for people like me who need an extra edge when playing a hero like, say, tree. I want that extra starting regen or sage's mask.

It makes solo matchups so obnoxious for the person who didn't random tho. If someone can't be bothered to try new heroes that's their fault
Dodge arrows
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
September 15 2013 03:46 GMT
#77809
On September 15 2013 12:30 Tsutchie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 12:24 trinxified wrote:
On September 15 2013 11:34 writer22816 wrote:
honestly i think random gold serves no purpose other than to ruin games


Is it because everyone just randoms because addicted to bonus gold, thus having bad hero comps?

Won't be much different than any all-pick game anyway. People just pick whatever they like, whether or not it's better for the team.


really, its just all pick, where people pick whatever the hell they want or 5-stacks picking wombo combos. its "ruined" before the game even starts. if you want to experience proper dota you need a 5 stack playing cm mode.

Playing as 5 stack vs pubs is no challenge, ergo you need to go team mm to enjoy dota.
TMM begins new teams at an unreasonably high level so you will suffer a lot of hard stomps unless you are already quite good as a 5 man team. To have a chance at winning you will have to play you're very best all the time, leading to doing the same thing over and over and finally ladder anxiety a la sc2.

Proof: Dota is never fun.

If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 15 2013 03:53 GMT
#77810
Random gold is fun, yo. Sure, sometimes you get into really tough matchups, but if you want balance, there are game modes for that. AP is pretty much for messing around, and it's pointless to complain so much about the ins and outs of the mode that let you play Drow every game.

I will Internet Fight anyone who takes away my Soul Ring Riki. Internet Fight is like when two drunk guys scream HOLD ME BACK BRO at each other, but without a bro to hold either of them back. Just cold, empty internet wires. And loneliness.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 15 2013 04:09 GMT
#77811
so whats your reasoning for soul ring riki
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
GtC
Profile Joined August 2013
United States546 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-15 04:11:30
September 15 2013 04:10 GMT
#77812
Regen. Duh.

Edit: I actually knew a guy who went armlet sniper "for the regen." ._.
The Turtle Moves
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
September 15 2013 04:23 GMT
#77813
Armlet on Sniper is legit.

But Soul Ring on Riki is not.
Play your best
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 15 2013 04:27 GMT
#77814
On September 15 2013 12:46 TheSubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 12:44 EnumaAvalon wrote:
On September 15 2013 11:23 teddyoojo wrote:
random gold is dumb
literally no reason for random gold to be in the game

I think it's okay. It gives you an incentive to try a new hero. If you get a hero you always use, then good for you but for people like me who need an extra edge when playing a hero like, say, tree. I want that extra starting regen or sage's mask.

It makes solo matchups so obnoxious for the person who didn't random tho. If someone can't be bothered to try new heroes that's their fault

I like playing solo matchups with repick vs random gold.

If I can win with repick vs. random gold, then going back to normal gold matchups feels so easy.
Moderator
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
September 15 2013 04:33 GMT
#77815
There is no point taking out the fun inside a non-competitive game mode
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Elasticity
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
3420 Posts
September 15 2013 04:42 GMT
#77816
i swear earth panda is the hardest hero
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 15 2013 04:45 GMT
#77817
On September 15 2013 13:09 FinestHour wrote:
so whats your reasoning for soul ring riki

Listen, maaaaan. Some people say the game's about getting kills, or farming gold, or pushing towers. But that ain't so. You can't play the game if you don't got soul.

Riki got soul.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
5-s
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1674 Posts
September 15 2013 05:10 GMT
#77818
On September 15 2013 12:46 Mataza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 12:30 Tsutchie wrote:
On September 15 2013 12:24 trinxified wrote:
On September 15 2013 11:34 writer22816 wrote:
honestly i think random gold serves no purpose other than to ruin games


Is it because everyone just randoms because addicted to bonus gold, thus having bad hero comps?

Won't be much different than any all-pick game anyway. People just pick whatever they like, whether or not it's better for the team.


really, its just all pick, where people pick whatever the hell they want or 5-stacks picking wombo combos. its "ruined" before the game even starts. if you want to experience proper dota you need a 5 stack playing cm mode.

Playing as 5 stack vs pubs is no challenge, ergo you need to go team mm to enjoy dota.
TMM begins new teams at an unreasonably high level so you will suffer a lot of hard stomps unless you are already quite good as a 5 man team. To have a chance at winning you will have to play you're very best all the time, leading to doing the same thing over and over and finally ladder anxiety a la sc2.

Proof: Dota is never fun.


That's funny cuz TMM is actually really easy for people who queue at the top. The top rated TMM game is way easier than any page 1 game, so we queue tmm if we wanna have an easy screw around game.
I liked Dota before it was Mainstream.
Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9381 Posts
September 15 2013 05:12 GMT
#77819
On September 15 2013 14:10 5-s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 12:46 Mataza wrote:
On September 15 2013 12:30 Tsutchie wrote:
On September 15 2013 12:24 trinxified wrote:
On September 15 2013 11:34 writer22816 wrote:
honestly i think random gold serves no purpose other than to ruin games


Is it because everyone just randoms because addicted to bonus gold, thus having bad hero comps?

Won't be much different than any all-pick game anyway. People just pick whatever they like, whether or not it's better for the team.


really, its just all pick, where people pick whatever the hell they want or 5-stacks picking wombo combos. its "ruined" before the game even starts. if you want to experience proper dota you need a 5 stack playing cm mode.

Playing as 5 stack vs pubs is no challenge, ergo you need to go team mm to enjoy dota.
TMM begins new teams at an unreasonably high level so you will suffer a lot of hard stomps unless you are already quite good as a 5 man team. To have a chance at winning you will have to play you're very best all the time, leading to doing the same thing over and over and finally ladder anxiety a la sc2.

Proof: Dota is never fun.


That's funny cuz TMM is actually really easy for people who queue at the top. The top rated TMM game is way easier than any page 1 game, so we queue tmm if we wanna have an easy screw around game.


Prolly because if you queue so high up you should prolly be doing scrims instead at that point.
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 15 2013 05:17 GMT
#77820
On September 15 2013 12:46 Mataza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2013 12:30 Tsutchie wrote:
On September 15 2013 12:24 trinxified wrote:
On September 15 2013 11:34 writer22816 wrote:
honestly i think random gold serves no purpose other than to ruin games


Is it because everyone just randoms because addicted to bonus gold, thus having bad hero comps?

Won't be much different than any all-pick game anyway. People just pick whatever they like, whether or not it's better for the team.


really, its just all pick, where people pick whatever the hell they want or 5-stacks picking wombo combos. its "ruined" before the game even starts. if you want to experience proper dota you need a 5 stack playing cm mode.

Playing as 5 stack vs pubs is no challenge, ergo you need to go team mm to enjoy dota.
TMM begins new teams at an unreasonably high level so you will suffer a lot of hard stomps unless you are already quite good as a 5 man team. To have a chance at winning you will have to play you're very best all the time, leading to doing the same thing over and over and finally ladder anxiety a la sc2.

Proof: Dota is never fun.


Or you can just learn to chill about the game. Play CM/RD when you want to go tryhard mode, play AP/SD/AR when you want to screw around. TMM when you have a group of friends and want to give stack battles a go.

It's not that tough to just enjoy the game.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
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