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Xxazn4lyfe51xX
United States976 Posts
On September 11 2013 13:03 Kuroeeah wrote: rng is a part of the game and i think even pro's would agree that RNG will forever have a place in DotA. ogre magi and CK are heroes that base themselves on rng Don't forget the bear! Root gaming for life. | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
On September 11 2013 13:32 Xxazn4lyfe51xX wrote: Don't forget the bear! Root gaming for life. Bear is like one of the least luck-intensive heroes in the game, if Admiral Bulldog's unreal potency with it is anything to go on. Skill is the antithesis of luck, and if one person can take a hero so much farther than everyone else, there must be a hell of a lot of skill compared to the luck involved in that hero. | ||
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
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Kuroeeah
11696 Posts
On September 11 2013 13:48 trinxified wrote: RNG has two sides... It feels so awesome when you're on the lucky side where everything you need is happening but then the other end is annoyed as hell. It's perfect for Dota exactly, it just wouldn't be identifiable as DotA if Icefrog were to strip all elements that relate themselves to RNG in the first place. Attacking from the high ground, chance such as crit, evasion, abilities that might proc a on hit or cast (multi cast, root, bash whatever), the VERY basic attack damage itself is between two numbers just like how it was on wc3. These are all fundamental aspects that make DotA what it is. You can make an argument about toning some percentiles on certain abilities or what not but removing that element of the game completely would make me question their understanding of the game or honestly lack thereof. | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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ratnasumi
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Mithhaike
Singapore2759 Posts
On September 11 2013 13:01 Shaella wrote: Excuse me multicast is pure skill Truth. My opinion is that RNG should stay as part of DOTA's feature. You can use PRD if you want, but the fact that there is RNG makes the game more "human" in the sense that there's always a element of luck involved. Even when your at the receiving end of the RNG it just makes you grin with chagrin. I know when I get rooted 3 times in a row I will probably flip the table and shout HAXXOR but i will still play on and claim that icefraud should remove that hero or something lol. At least it's not a guaranteed situation where there's no way out. RNG works both ways, i've been a faceless void where i managed to backtrack everything in a team fight, even lagunas etc which definitely should be making the entire team facepalming in frustration. I think it's also part of DOTA's charm | ||
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
On September 11 2013 16:15 Mithhaike wrote: Truth. My opinion is that RNG should stay as part of DOTA's feature. You can use PRD if you want, but the fact that there is RNG makes the game more "human" in the sense that there's always a element of luck involved. Even when your at the receiving end of the RNG it just makes you grin with chagrin. I know when I get rooted 3 times in a row I will probably flip the table and shout HAXXOR but i will still play on and claim that icefraud should remove that hero or something lol. At least it's not a guaranteed situation where there's no way out. RNG works both ways, i've been a faceless void where i managed to backtrack everything in a team fight, even lagunas etc which definitely should be making the entire team facepalming in frustration. I think it's also part of DOTA's charm Dota even has both PRD and normal pRNG | ||
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Kraznaya
United States3711 Posts
On September 11 2013 14:07 Acritter wrote: Is it just me, or does the victory in ixdl seem to go to the team with the least team strife as opposed to the greatest team skill? It's like both teams are pretty fucked to begin with, and then the more fucked one loses. nah losing causes more team strife than vice versa | ||
Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
A bear first hit root is great luck, but in all likelihood you will only see it once a game, as the rest of the time you end up needing a few hits. Same with uphill miss and crits: small mechanics that tend to even out over time. Something like Tiny or Mirana randomess has much smaller data pool over the course of the game, so it can seem more streaky. However, each skill does have elements that reward good play: isolating enemies in fights and the like. The randomness changes the way you need to play the game if you want to take full advantage, but in a way that rewards skill and knowledge and doesnt take away from the game overall. | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
On September 11 2013 16:17 Kraznaya wrote: nah losing causes more team strife than vice versa Well, from what I saw on TC's stream (lots of pro players and near-pro players, shuffled more or less randomly between teams), the game would start, lanes would go kind of back and forth, something bad would happen to TC's team, he'd say the game was getting out of control, and then the other team would do the DOTA2 equivalent of jumping out of the cockpit of your jet to sabotage your own engines and spiral down in flames amidst cries of "RAZOR HAS TRANQS." The game wasn't going out of control before the strife started; the strife started sending the game out of control. That's just what I noticed, anyway. It's not like these are serious teams, they're just one-match-long scrim mashups. Tensions are expected. | ||
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deichkind
Sweden347 Posts
what are treasure keys for? dont have a single chest that i can open with them? do older chest suddenly become openable by them or am i missing something? | ||
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ReignSupreme.
Australia4123 Posts
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
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SpiZe
Canada3640 Posts
Am I missing something ? | ||
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Cool Cat
United States1644 Posts
normal keys are primarily used as currency for trading but they'll devalue since they're actually useless | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
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SpiZe
Canada3640 Posts
On September 11 2013 22:44 Cool Cat wrote: no you're not normal keys are primarily used as currency for trading but they'll devalue since they're actually useless Valve should go back to having a single key opening all chests. With all these community chests, hero chest dissapeared, regular keys are now an useless relic of an old age and you can't buy keys ahead of time since you have no idea what you are going to get next. I don't even really see how is the current system more profitable for Valve. Or add a key that opens every chest thats sells for a bit more if they want to make money that bad I don't know. | ||
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
On September 11 2013 22:40 SpiZe wrote: I don't get why you would want old keys ? So you can open that old NP chest that you still haven't opened or deleted ? In case that you get those shitty chests that don't even drop anymore ? Am I missing something ? I still have 52 hero chests unopened (I think, might have missed one or two). Maybe I'd want to open one one day? However unlikely that might be. Just saying. >_> (Yes I hoard chests. Opened a few but I still keep them all. I have 126 chests in my inventory. Earliest I got is 5 of #5 Treasure of the Red Mist.) | ||
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