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elt
Profile Joined July 2010
Thailand1092 Posts
September 03 2013 10:48 GMT
#75701
On September 03 2013 19:19 Klonere wrote:
need a steam guide for bone7 midas linkens ds


You mean refresher?

And Armlet/Orchid Clock.
(Under Construction)
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
September 03 2013 11:21 GMT
#75702
Have I heard correctly that when you haven't played for a while in this game, you get to play with lesser skilled player?
EZ4ENCE
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
September 03 2013 11:26 GMT
#75703
Nobody knows how the MMR truly works, so nobody knows if there is decay or not.
I wouldn't worry about it.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
September 03 2013 11:29 GMT
#75704
On September 03 2013 20:26 ReignSupreme. wrote:
Nobody knows how the MMR truly works, so nobody knows if there is decay or not.
I wouldn't worry about it.

I haven't played any MM games for the past three months (reason: gaben.tv), so I hope I can play acceptably.

Wanna show of my Axe and Skywrath tournament items.
EZ4ENCE
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
September 03 2013 13:25 GMT
#75705
theres no decay, i did not play for weeks on a smurf, and on the first game i got first page
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-03 14:28:21
September 03 2013 14:26 GMT
#75706
On September 03 2013 16:41 Mithhaike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 16:33 739 wrote:
I just saw Demon on his stream changing core/situational items in game, how you do that? ;o

Steam Guides if im not wrong. I usually choose an item beforehand and put it in Quick Buy, only changing when there's a lull in the game

This is the currently supported way of doing it. Using the pencil icon works, but Valve technically doesn't support that anymore, and it's kind of buggy in a few cases.

Steam Guides also have the advantage of being editable outside the game, and transfer-able between computers/accounts.
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Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
September 03 2013 14:27 GMT
#75707
Are there any stats available for the TI3, where the farm levels of the supports of the winning and losing teams are aggregated? I can't shake the feeling that the more successful teams prioritized farm on their supports (as a percentage of overall farm by the team), and the lesser teams tended to prioritize farming their cores at the expense of weak supports.
Envy fan since NTH.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
September 03 2013 14:28 GMT
#75708
On September 03 2013 23:26 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 16:41 Mithhaike wrote:
On September 03 2013 16:33 739 wrote:
I just saw Demon on his stream changing core/situational items in game, how you do that? ;o

Steam Guides if im not wrong. I usually choose an item beforehand and put it in Quick Buy, only changing when there's a lull in the game

This is the currently supported way of doing it. Using the pencil icon works, but Valve technically doesn't support that anymore, and it's kind of buggy in a few cases.

I remember it deleting all of my saved builds at some point.

Doesn't matter much to me though, I'm redoing them inbetween a giant losing streak i'm doing anyways. its too useful.
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teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-03 14:35:41
September 03 2013 14:31 GMT
#75709
On September 03 2013 23:27 Piledriver wrote:
Are there any stats available for the TI3, where the farm levels of the supports of the winning and losing teams are aggregated? I can't shake the feeling that the more successful teams prioritized farm on their supports (as a percentage of overall farm by the team), and the lesser teams tended to prioritize farming their cores at the expense of weak supports.

G# | GPM | Player
------------------------
06 | 319.3 | Funn1k
22 | 267.0 | EGM
08 | 248.4 | waytosexy
30 | 236.3 | KuroKy
16 | 231.2 | FlyMyShnekel
23 | 229.3 | MMY
11 | 229.2 | QQQ
16 | 228.5 | Fluff
14 | 224.4 | ARS-ART
17 | 221.9 | Banana
16 | 220.6 | Akke
22 | 218.1 | Faith
23 | 218.0 | XtiNcT
09 | 212.2 | NS
24 | 211.7 | SanSheng
14 | 211.2 | Puppey
16 | 210.6 | Fogged
14 | 206.9 | DD
18 | 206.3 | DDC
16 | 203.7 | MiSeRY
25 | 200.2 | Net
16 | 197.9 | ixmike88
12 | 197.8 | N0tail
12 | 196.8 | xFreedom
15 | 194.3 | paS

G# = Number of games played that are registered as 'support'.

Somewhat misleading as it will count it as support based on hero. Also not separated into wins/losses, so EGM is very high because they had a significantly higher win percentage. And funn1k isn't really a support player.
Once you Goblak...
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 03 2013 14:38 GMT
#75710
In general it's really hard to say "more successful teams prioritized support farm more" because teams that win more get more farm on the supports simply due to having map control and farming space, and winning more fights.

People said that about Alliance throughout the entire tournament, but other than Akke/EGM's comparatively defensive early game, there was no heavy priority on support farm compared to other teams. In games where Alliance were even or losing (see Alliance vs. DK game 2 or most of the finals games where AIlliance were losing at one point or another) the supports didn't end up more farmed than expected.

Though one thing that you can say is true is that in general Alliance prioritized supports that CAN farm over supports that have trouble farming (e.g. Naga, KotL, CM, junglers, etc. vs. Visage, Nyx, SD, etc.).
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
September 03 2013 14:41 GMT
#75711
On September 03 2013 23:38 TheYango wrote:
In general it's really hard to say "more successful teams prioritized support farm more" because teams that win more get more farm on the supports simply due to having map control and farming space, and winning more fights.

People said that about Alliance throughout the entire tournament, but other than Akke/EGM's comparatively defensive early game, there was no heavy priority on support farm compared to other teams. In games where Alliance were even or losing (see Alliance vs. DK game 2 or most of the finals games where AIlliance were losing at one point or another) the supports didn't end up more farmed than expected.

Though one thing that you can say is true is that in general Alliance prioritized supports that CAN farm over supports that have trouble farming (e.g. Naga, KotL, CM, junglers, etc. vs. Visage, Nyx, SD, etc.).

This is exactly what I wanted to say but in a much more eloquent way of how I was going to say it.

Pretty much exactly right.
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
September 03 2013 16:36 GMT
#75712
dendi, 3xice, singsing, dread all consistently getting 10k on their stream. Its quite sick witnessing the growth of dota2.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 03 2013 16:39 GMT
#75713
On September 04 2013 01:36 NB wrote:
dendi, 3xice, singsing, dread all consistently getting 10k on their stream. Its quite sick witnessing the growth of dota2.

Its good to see them all get viewers and all three of those players know how to entertain their audience. There is nothing more fun than watching Dendi pick some stupid mid like CM and win with it because he is just that good at the game. Its makes the game more fun in general.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
September 03 2013 16:44 GMT
#75714
IceIceIce is the most fun streamer for me to watch, he also comments and even teaches a bit on his stream with an added flavour of trademark iceiceice trolling.
WriterXiao8~~
Darkren
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1841 Posts
September 03 2013 16:47 GMT
#75715
What was the name of the guy, way back in dota allstars that would only pick clingz and rush a divine rapier and then buy multiple aegis ( aegis was a buyable item before)
"Yeah, I send (hopefully) helpful PM's quite frequently. You don't have to warn/ban everything" - KadaverBB
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
September 03 2013 16:48 GMT
#75716
Hans5?
WriterXiao8~~
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
September 03 2013 16:50 GMT
#75717
-3
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-03 16:54:57
September 03 2013 16:52 GMT
#75718
I think that's hans5 but the guy was being flamed and ridiculed everywhere he went afai remember. Aegis wasn't buyable anymore tho when hans5 was spamming his clinkz "guides" and replay threads.
in before kupo is revealed to be hans5.
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
September 03 2013 17:02 GMT
#75719
Hans2 and his div league thingy was quite entertaining imo. And some of his strats actually worked.

I remember after his rapier obsession, i think he then went on a broodmother mid obsession before no one else was playing it and it proved viable.

He also popularized the luna glaive build i think. How you must build luna a certain way so that you exceed a certain attack speed threshold in order to make glaive can bounce back to the same target.
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
September 03 2013 17:09 GMT
#75720
I only watch SingSing and N0tail. For me, they are the two best dota 2 streamers out there.
I find Dendi to be so boring, I don't understand why people like watching him.
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